[Salt thread] Owning a House Offically became Dead content for me

Since the inception of the Housing Lottery, i lost every time and now on my Home world Shiva there is no Housing Plot Left as of Yesterdays Drawing(as far as i looked).

Since they dont do Demolitions anymore there wont be freed up plots from inactive players occupying plots making it mpossible to be able to own a House.
FC Rooms or Apartment is not a Sufficient alternative, i had the faint hope island sanctuary maybe we can have a house to ones liking but its static Buildings.

Please add more wards.

Thank you,

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Originally Posted by Sharie

Since the inception of the Housing Lottery, i lost every time and now on my Home world Shiva there is no Housing Plot Left as of Yesterdays Drawing(as far as i looked).

Since they dont do Demolitions anymore there wont be freed up plots from inactive players occupying plots making it mpossible to be able to own a House.
FC Rooms or Apartment is not a Sufficient alternative, i had the faint hope island sanctuary maybe we can have a house to ones liking but its static Buildings.

Please add more wards.

Thank you,

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Demolitions don't work as intented. There's a plot right next to mine that's literally empty. The person who won simply wanted to do it to brag about it, so they put a bench, an aetheryte and called it a day. It's been like that for months now. Even with the timer on, these people just make sure to go into their house once every 30 days or so to keep it.

So to be clear, more wards? Yes. Demolition timer? No. Even Yoshi P says to take a break from the game between patches, we should be able to take a break every now and then without having our house taken away.

either add more wards for personal house or have an option to upgrade you home from small to mid then mid to large. i don't know how hard that would be to do though

Or they could just do instanced housing since this stupid bloated ward system has been a complete dumpster fire that serves no purpose other than to be a constant source of frustration and drain on resources. The fact that people are obtaining houses for the sole purpose of being a complete douche to the community is just insane. Does square enix even care?

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Originally Posted by Sharie

Please add more wards.

Thank you,

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And you assume adding more ward gives you a chance to win? HA!

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

Or they could just do instanced housing since this stupid bloated ward system ... serves no purpose ...

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Sure it does. It makes me happy, my spouse happy, and the members of our FC happy.
Because I, my spouse, and my FC each own a house, two of which were acquired through the lottery system.

But sour grapes are a thing, right?

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Originally Posted by Sharie

...i lost every time and now on my Home world Shiva there is no Housing Plot Left as of Yesterdays Drawing(as far as i looked)...

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All of these will be available in the next round.

https://i.gyazo.com/44f502bb51cda0ba...096abb7436.png

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Originally Posted by Sharie

FC Rooms or Apartment is not a Sufficient alternative

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There are some valid reasons, but I need to ask what your's is. So, want to say why aren't these suitable for you?

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Originally Posted by Latarma

either add more wards for personal house or have an option to upgrade you home from small to mid then mid to large. i don't know how hard that would be to do though

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This won't work. Since the house size is determined by the size plot. Plot sizes are fixed to the map size. To expand these plots to accommodate for a large home, would mean the map would have to change drastically. They would have to expand the whole map size and redo the maps for each ward. That's a lot of work I don't think they are willing to do without looking at more sensible solutions first.

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Originally Posted by Silverbane

Sure it does. It makes me happy, my spouse happy, and the members of our FC happy.
Because I, my spouse, and my FC each own a house, two of which were acquired through the lottery system.

But sour grapes are a thing, right?

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I mean, in this situation there are more sour grapes than sweet ones...
grats and all, but there so many others that don't have these success stories depending on what server you're on, all you'll be eating are sour grapes

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Originally Posted by Silverbane

Sure it does. It makes me happy, my spouse happy, and the members of our FC happy.
Because I, my spouse, and my FC each own a house, two of which were acquired through the lottery system.

But sour grapes are a thing, right?

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Lol, hardly. The housing system as a whole is the worst thing about this game. It's worse than any housing system I've seen in over a decade.

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

And you assume adding more ward gives you a chance to win? HA!

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When they opened the fc wards to private owners I got mine.

More wards does give a chance to win.

I'd give it up for an instanced house with a garden, however. Make them look like fenced estates or gated communities.

They can give us an island, but not an instanced house. - _- right.

I don't understand why you want a house with island sanctuary's available? I have a mansion and a level 65 workshop and I spend most of my time on the island. If I had to choose between the two I'd pick the island.

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Originally Posted by sagacious

I don't understand why you want a house with island sanctuary's available? I have a mansion and a level 65 workshop and I spend most of my time on the island. If I had to choose between the two I'd pick the island.

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You obviously aren't interested in decorating.

Do both, add new wards and enable demolition.

Why don't you move servers? New EU servers are in the same datacenter, it wouldn't be that much of a hassle if you really want a house

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

This won't work. Since the house size is determined by the size plot. Plot sizes are fixed to the map size. To expand these plots to accommodate for a large home, would mean the map would have to change drastically. They would have to expand the whole map size and redo the maps for each ward. That's a lot of work I don't think they are willing to do without looking at more sensible solutions first.

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They could pull a TARDIS and let it be "bigger on the inside", lol I don't think most people wouldn't be against this, its already instanced anyway.

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Originally Posted by sagacious

I don't understand why you want a house with island sanctuary's available? I have a mansion and a level 65 workshop and I spend most of my time on the island. If I had to choose between the two I'd pick the island.

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I like decorating. I hate the island.

New NA servers in November = more wards.

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Originally Posted by Darthgummibear

You obviously aren't interested in decorating.

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My mansion is decorated expertly by me. It is different, stylish, and looks like mansion decorations should be. It is not prefabbed by a so-called specialist who cuts off 1/2 the building to make intricate design you can't change because you spent to much gill paying so-called specialist.

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Originally Posted by sagacious

My mansion is decorated expertly by me. It is different, stylish, and looks like mansion decorations should be. It is not prefabbed by a so-called specialist who cuts off 1/2 the building to make intricate design you can't change because you spent to much gill paying so-called specialist.

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The point

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You

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Originally Posted by sagacious

My mansion is decorated expertly by me. It is different, stylish, and looks like mansion decorations should be. It is not prefabbed by a so-called specialist who cuts off 1/2 the building to make intricate design you can't change because you spent to much gill paying so-called specialist.

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Weird flex but okay

Don't bother engaging that person. They like to rile up people sad about the housing system by flexing their own FC house (that they got by abusing the alt exploit) and how the workshop is big and beautiful.

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Originally Posted by Shibi

All of these will be available in the next round.

https://i.gyazo.com/44f502bb51cda0ba...096abb7436.png




There are some valid reasons, but I need to ask what your's is. So, want to say why aren't these suitable for you?

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Thank you i i will try my luck with one of these did not know such a list eixsts. i very much enjoy decorating i spend multiple days thinking of ideas how to decorate my FC Room but it simply lacks the space and i would love having a Garden i very much enjoy the more chill content in FFXIV after a hard day of Work

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Originally Posted by Sharie

Thank you i i will try my luck with one of these did not know such a list eixsts. i very much enjoy decorating i spend multiple days thinking of ideas how to decorate my FC Room but it simply lacks the space and i would love having a Garden i very much enjoy the more chill content in FFXIV after a hard day of Work

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I think that list comes from a housing discord which updates availability regularly.

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Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki

Demolitions don't work as intented. There's a plot right next to mine that's literally empty. The person who won simply wanted to do it to brag about it, so they put a bench, an aetheryte and called it a day. It's been like that for months now. Even with the timer on, these people just make sure to go into their house once every 30 days or so to keep it.

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Some people just want to watch the world burn.

Tbh your description would make for a funny meme picture.

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Originally Posted by Sharie

Thank you i i will try my luck with one of these did not know such a list eixsts. i very much enjoy decorating i spend multiple days thinking of ideas how to decorate my FC Room but it simply lacks the space and i would love having a Garden i very much enjoy the more chill content in FFXIV after a hard day of Work

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And if you dont care to make an Alt FC for a House (you can leave it open to visit it with your main) there are around 200 open plots for FCs still open on Shiva (mostly Empyreum)

The EU will get a new logical datacenter. So there will be 8 additional worlds and this should lower the competition for houses.


Cheers

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

This won't work. Since the house size is determined by the size plot. Plot sizes are fixed to the map size. To expand these plots to accommodate for a large home, would mean the map would have to change drastically. They would have to expand the whole map size and redo the maps for each ward. That's a lot of work I don't think they are willing to do without looking at more sensible solutions first.

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While this is true, this made me wonder if the apartments could be modified to be like this. At least add a small and medium sized upgrade. This could help with demand for smaller homes at the very least.

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Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki

While this is true, this made me wonder if the apartments could be modified to be like this. At least add a small and medium sized upgrade. This could help with demand for smaller homes at the very least.

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I don't see why they couldn't when it comes to apartments or rooms. Like adding a second floor would be nice. As long as it doesn't effect the outdoor ward map.

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Originally Posted by sagacious

I don't understand why you want a house with island sanctuary's available? I have a mansion and a level 65 workshop and I spend most of my time on the island. If I had to choose between the two I'd pick the island.

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Right now, the islands aren't customizable. No way to make them uniquely yours. Your Island looks pretty much like my island and everyone else that has one. There a difference in a house and the huts you have on your island. Don't get me wrong I like the island, but it's not like having your own house where you can customize it with your own style and taste.

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Originally Posted by RobynDaBank

Don't bother engaging that person. They like to rile up people sad about the housing system by flexing their own FC house (that they got by abusing the alt exploit) and how the workshop is big and beautiful.

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Thought they just bought it off a dead server and were treating it like some form of grand achievement that they managed to get one?

Both are still weird flexes either way.

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Originally Posted by sagacious

I don't understand why you want a house with island sanctuary's available? I have a mansion and a level 65 workshop and I spend most of my time on the island. If I had to choose between the two I'd pick the island.

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I'm utterly convinced people who find the gameplay loop of island sanctuary so utterly captivating don't have a great deal of experience with the life-sim and colony management genres of games in general.

It missed the mark by quite a margin from what the concept of settling and developing an uninhabited island could've been, it's more like Tataru tricked us into running her off-shore mammet sweatshop for her.

You will enjoy your apartment and you will like it

Moving to new server worked great, basically all of my FC got houses without competition.

Moved to Alpha. Got a personal medium house and FC mansion. After I finished decorating... housing is dead to me as well. For some reason most of fun is the goal of trying to get the house. Earning gil, looking at plots, praying to win the lottery and so on. Once you get the house and decorate the content is kind of meh? Only matter of time before I let the demolition eat the plots like all the times before. Island Sanctuary even while being a mammet sweatshop has at least some interactivity. Housing is cool goal, but once you achieve it, there is not much point in it.

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Originally Posted by Hafu

I'm utterly convinced people who find the gameplay loop of island sanctuary so utterly captivating don't have a great deal of experience with the life-sim and colony management genres of games in general.

It missed the mark by quite a margin from what the concept of settling and developing an uninhabited island could've been, it's more like Tataru tricked us into running her off-shore mammet sweatshop for her.

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I think you're misreading things. People don't find it captivating. They find it satisfying in its simplicity and general peacefulness. The type of game you're talking about likely wouldn't translate well into XIV. There's only so much that can be adapted. That's why they went a simpler route and used what makes some of the browser games popular.

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Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki

So to be clear, more wards? Yes. Demolition timer? No. Even Yoshi P says to take a break from the game between patches, we should be able to take a break every now and then without having our house taken away.

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I disagree. Housing should be for the most loyal players, who do not take breaks.

A lot... of people really really overestimate the value of a personal house, there is down right nothing beyond decorating and rp with it... Its one if the main reasons why FC tend to get priority, workshop, fc buffs, extra apartments, and a greater chance at a community...

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Originally Posted by Hanayumi

A lot... of people really really overestimate the value of a personal house, there is down right nothing beyond decorating and rp with it... Its one if the main reasons why FC tend to get priority, workshop, fc buffs, extra apartments, and a greater chance at a community...

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Thats the entire reason people want a house: decorating, a place to bring home people they pick up at the club and the feeling of owning something exclusive. I don't think many care about past that if they're going for a private house. If they do, they go for an FC/become involved in their own FCs stuff.

Hell, I think you can even throw owning one just to own one into the reasons why because of how hard it is to get one in the current times. Some plots are still sitting claimed but undecorated and you never see the owners.

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Originally Posted by Hafu

....it's more like Tataru tricked us into running her off-shore mammet sweatshop for her.

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She's still salty about the sword Alphi bought.