Players that go AFK in Island Sanctuary is a Problem

I know there are many players working on their Island Sanctuary since it's release, but those that decide to AFK on a mount and are kicked out after 30 mins is a problem.

Problem being is those that go afk mounted, sometimes on HUGE mounts then covering the NPC and most players, in Moraby Drydocks. I know, I know you can simply use your shortcut function key to target interactive objects/NPCs, but it's still annoying to have these mounts clustered there.

Might want to do a set up like you did with this years Moonfire Faire where it auto dismounts players that are kicked out on these mounts from Island Sanctuary.

Forced dismount, or another option is just to move the spawn point away from NPCs. Then the players will just clump up harmlessly.

The buildings on the island have it, idk why they didnt add that field to EVERY msq/duty npc anyways...

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

The buildings on the island have it, idk why they didnt add that field to EVERY msq/duty npc anyways...

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Yeah I didn't think about all the buildings in your instance, force dismounts.

Or you could use the common sense solution on pc and not have to complain. Hit X, hides players nameplates, see the npc...Other platforms use whatever key.

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Originally Posted by Besame

Or you could use the common sense solution on pc and not have to complain. Hit X, hides players nameplates, see the npc...Other platforms use whatever key.

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There's also the default 'target/interact with nearest object/NPC' (unsure of the exact name of the bind; I'm not in-game right now) which for a PC is NumPad 0 by default. Get near NPC/object, press 0 twice, done and done.

@OP: Yes I know this doesn't fix the aesthetic problem, but it's a surefire solution for getting on with your gaming.

In PS there's target filters so you don't target PCs.

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Originally Posted by Besame

Or you could use the common sense solution on pc and not have to complain. Hit X, hides players nameplates, see the npc...Other platforms use whatever key.

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I like how some people don't read what you typed and comment anyway.

Yeah, yeah I know all about the shortcuts and command key functions to bypass and interact. Nameplates isn't the problem or interacting with NPC.

/rolleyes (damn didn't work here)

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Originally Posted by Ilisidi

In PS there's target filters so you don't target PCs.

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There is one in pc version also. I do not see any player names except those on friends and whomever I am in a party with (just their initials). Way less clutter on screen :)

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Originally Posted by Besame

Or you could use the common sense solution on pc and not have to complain. Hit X, hides players nameplates, see the npc...Other platforms use whatever key.

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OR ppl could not AFK in an instance....


For you information, my default selection is set so ill always target the npc/object first so for me it doesnt really matter, its just annoying - especially on whales etc..

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Originally Posted by Besame

There is one in pc version also. I do not see any player names except those on friends and whomever I am in a party with (just their initials). Way less clutter on screen :)

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I don't mean that. There's four filters that you can set to target or ignore certain kinds of usually targetable objects, regardless of whether their name plates show or not. Those for are also available on kbm, but there have been enough other solutions posted for kbm already.

I would like the option to not show any PCs in a five malm radius or so. So I can see what emote the NPC makes and who of them is and who of them isn't head tracking the WoL.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

OR ppl could not AFK in an instance....


For you information, my default selection is set so ill always target the npc/object first so for me it doesnt really matter, its just annoying - especially on whales etc..

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Many things here are annoying, I don't care to be a Karen so I choose wisely on what I cannot filter enough to satisy me :) GL getting the afkers dealt with though because it's been the same thing for the almost 7 yrs I have been playing hehe..

no-one should be kicked for AFK in their island sanctury. That was supposed to be the whole point of it existing. Somewhere to chill out and relax (until your 30 mins is up)

Moving the exit spawn point to the side of the building would be better. Then it wouldn't matter how many players have been kicked AFK and whether or not they're mounted. They won't be in the way.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

no-one should be kicked for AFK in their island sanctury. That was supposed to be the whole point of it existing. Somewhere to chill out and relax (until your 30 mins is up)

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The kick is need to free up instance server space, just as you'll get kicked from a dungeon after 10 minutes AFK if you were in it solo or with Trust/Duty Support.

Other players want their chance to be in their Sanctuary as well.

from the time i started working on my island i have had no trouble getting to it except one time when the servers were overloaded them it just took me a little while longer to get in guess they are crying about the servers not being big enough for everyone to get in easy well they will fix it sooner or later so good luck with that.

I suspect that eventually the auto-afk-kick will be feel removed and that's it's just there to handle the initial wave of interest.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

OR ppl could not AFK in an instance....


For you information, my default selection is set so ill always target the npc/object first so for me it doesnt really matter, its just annoying - especially on whales etc..

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Sounds like blowing up for sake of complaining. People are always going to afk.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

I know there are many players working on their Island Sanctuary since it's release, but those that decide to AFK on a mount and are kicked out after 30 mins is a problem.

Problem being is those that go afk mounted, sometimes on HUGE mounts then covering the NPC and most players, in Moraby Drydocks. I know, I know you can simply use your shortcut function key to target interactive objects/NPCs, but it's still annoying to have these mounts clustered there.

Might want to do a set up like you did with this years Moonfire Faire where it auto dismounts players that are kicked out on these mounts from Island Sanctuary.

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Press the X key on the keyboard... then you can click through the Player and his mount and click on the NPC ( or whichever other keybind you set, X is standard )

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

no-one should be kicked for AFK in their island sanctury. That was supposed to be the whole point of it existing. Somewhere to chill out and relax (until your 30 mins is up)

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Yes people should be kicked in AFK in that island, since it is a limited ressource, and you can exceed the amount of players being able to be on the Island due to it is instanced.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

The kick is need to free up instance server space.

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I am aware of the WHY, it still goes against what we were told was the very point of its existence. All this getting kicked stuff is getting very tiresome.

If afk'ing is a problem with server access they will and should adjust the timer. I suspect it was more an issue at release than it is now.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

OR ppl could not AFK in an instance....


For you information, my default selection is set so ill always target the npc/object first so for me it doesnt really matter, its just annoying - especially on whales etc..

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Why would you focus on a solution which you have absolutely no control of?

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

I am aware of the WHY, it still goes against what we were told was the very point of its existence. All this getting kicked stuff is getting very tiresome.

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It doesn't go against the point of its existence at all. I suspect you don't understand why the developers created the content. It wasn't to give you a pretty spot to AFK in.

If you're tired of being kicked for AFK, don't AFK for 30 minutes or don't be logged in if you're going to AFK for over 30 minutes. It's hardly disruptive to your game relaxation when you're not even at your keyboard to be playing the game.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

I suspect you don't understand why the developers created the content. It wasn't to give you a pretty spot to AFK in.

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Oh really? Do tell us exactly what the content was for then? Imagine doing something as selfish as laying about enjoying the scenery waiting for the next time-gate to roll around... outrageous!



I am sure if Square told some people it was a good idea to put needles in their eyes before doing certain content they'd be here praising the idea and blaming other gamers for their eyes bleeding.


Square knew how many lvl90 players there were going to be. They could have ensured there was enough resources to cover it, but they chose not to. That's not the fault of any player.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

I am sure if Square told some people it was a good idea to put needles in their eyes...

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Before or after jumping off the cliff with their friends?

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

Oh really? Do tell us exactly what the content was for then? Imagine doing something as selfish as laying about enjoying the scenery waiting for the next time-gate to roll around... outrageous!

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If you were actually enjoying the scenery in your Sanctuary, you wouldn't be kicked for AFK. You'd have at least minor activity that would reset the AFK status.

We're not talking 5-10 minutes after all. We're talking over 30 minutes. That's an awful long time for someone to be staring at the same spot on a monitor or TV without engaging in any activity or having their eyes start to figuratively bleed - no need for your said application of needles.

And no, they couldn't have ensured there would be enough resources for every level 90 player to be in their Sanctuary at the same time. The semi-conductor shortage is a continuing problem that didn't clear up as expected thanks to the war in Eastern Europe. It's why SE had to delay the opening of new NA worlds yet again despite believing at the start of the year that the hardware needed would be delivered in time.

It's very possible that SE will remove the AFK kick later on when activity in Island Sanctuary dies out just as they eventually remove the AFK kick from game for 30 minutes of inactivity added at the start of every expansion once the concurrent log in numbers start to drop. Until then, you'll have to learn to tap something on your keyboard, mouse or controller while you're enjoying your scenery every 25 minutes or so to avoid getting kicked.

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Originally Posted by XiXiQ

Oh really? Do tell us exactly what the content was for then? Imagine doing something as selfish as laying about enjoying the scenery waiting for the next time-gate to roll around... outrageous!

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The space was designed to interact with or be actively doing things like gpose, chat with friends, craft, etc. It's not there to be a haven for anyone and everyone at all times.

If you're going to AFK, just port to Moraby or let it kick you, literally right next to the NPC that'll send you right back.

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

If you're going to AFK, just port to Moraby or let it kick you, literally right next to the NPC that'll send you right back.

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Can I afk in my house or garden in a ward or do i have to log or go somewhere else? I don't see a difference they'll all the same server. Can I go make a sandwich or start a pot of coffee? Just how long can I afk before people get upset? The timer is 30 minutes it's not like you can go to sleep there. That's been a pretty standard afk kick timer.

The rush is over now I don't have trouble getting into my place even on Balmung.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Can I afk in my house or garden in a ward or do i have to log or go somewhere else? I don't see a difference they'll all the same server. Can I go make a sandwich or start a pot of coffee? Just how long can I afk before people get upset? The timer is 30 minutes it's not like you can go to sleep there. That's been a pretty standard afk kick timer.

The rush is over now I don't have trouble getting into my place even on Balmung.

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Outside of it you don't have an afk kick timer. In there you do, just like you do in Bozja etc. See the difference? If they do that it means that for the servers it's absolutely not the same as afking at your house or in the open world in general.

And OP's request makes a lot of sense honestly.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

I know there are many players working on their Island Sanctuary since it's release, but those that decide to AFK on a mount and are kicked out after 30 mins is a problem.

Problem being is those that go afk mounted, sometimes on HUGE mounts then covering the NPC and most players, in Moraby Drydocks. I know, I know you can simply use your shortcut function key to target interactive objects/NPCs, but it's still annoying to have these mounts clustered there.

Might want to do a set up like you did with this years Moonfire Faire where it auto dismounts players that are kicked out on these mounts from Island Sanctuary.

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Just mouse hover...

Magnifying glass = player
Speech bubbles = npc

Don't you know that?

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

Outside of it you don't have an afk kick timer. In there you do, just like you do in Bozja etc. See the difference? If they do that it means that for the servers it's absolutely not the same as afking at your house or in the open world in general.

And OP's request makes a lot of sense honestly.

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Yes i understand that and it's why there is a 30 minute timer which is more than reasonable. I believe the housing servers and Island servers are the same so yes housing does affect the Island as well if you afk in your house if I'm not mistaken. I don't see the issue really. We had a 30 minute timer in the height of the xpac rush and long queues getting in.

The Op isn't worried about server load they simply don't want people to afk in front of the login NPC. I don't see that problem going away even if the timer was shortened which it won't be in my view. If anything making the timer shorter would only make for more people being kicked and sitting in front of the NPC.

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Originally Posted by Themarvin

Press the X key on the keyboard... then you can click through the Player and his mount and click on the NPC ( or whichever other keybind you set, X is standard )

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I already know this, and it's the zero on my numeric pad that let's me click through. That's not the point. I don't want to be kicked and then come back to find my character covered up by someone's big ass mount. It's unsettling!

Why in the world others do not read where I said in the original post, that I knew how to click through and interact with the NPC. Maybe that's what has a few confused when I added it covered the NPC, Still not what I'm saying. I don't like finding myself clipped through some of the large mounts in pitch darkness, or wings flapping around me. It's disorienting and annoying besides. A forced dismount would have been better there.

It's the ones that go afk while mounted that is the issue. Just couldn't put all that in, in the title. I hope this clears things up for some.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

I know there are many players working on their Island Sanctuary since it's release, but those that decide to AFK on a mount and are kicked out after 30 mins is a problem.

Problem being is those that go afk mounted, sometimes on HUGE mounts then covering the NPC and most players, in Moraby Drydocks. I know, I know you can simply use your shortcut function key to target interactive objects/NPCs, but it's still annoying to have these mounts clustered there.

Might want to do a set up like you did with this years Moonfire Faire where it auto dismounts players that are kicked out on these mounts from Island Sanctuary.

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Keybind -> Target Nearest Object or NPC -> set to a key of your choice

Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by dspguy

Keybind -> Target Nearest Object or NPC -> set to a key of your choice

Problem solved.

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I love how OP said A MILLION TIMES how they know that perfectly welland how no, that's not a solution. And yet people keep being broken records.

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

I love how OP said A MILLION TIMES how they know that perfectly welland how no, that's not a solution. And yet people keep being broken records.

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I respectfully disagree. It IS the solution. By pure definition.

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Originally Posted by Arazehl

Problem being is those that go afk mounted, sometimes on HUGE mounts then covering the NPC and most players, in Moraby Drydocks.

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Problem is: players go AFK on huge mounts covering the NPC etc etc.

Solution: what has been offered.

Yes, the OP recognizes this. Then why have this post? It is annoying?

"Hey, SE. There's something annoying in this game. Other players. Can we just remove them all and I can play a console game?"

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

I love how OP said A MILLION TIMES how they know that perfectly welland how no, that's not a solution. And yet people keep being broken records.

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Because it's definitely a solution. I use it whenever someone on the Lunar Whale ends up on top of the NPC. I know roughly where the NPC is so all I have to do is hit my Confirm keybind twice (NUM 0 on keypad is the default) to target and interact with the NPC to get to my island.

I'm on my island in a few seconds while people who prefer to waste their time complaining instead of using the available targeting option are still standing next to the NPC complaining.

I still agree that SE could have made a better choice for exit point but it's still not preventing anyone from going to their island.

i came back to see if anything constructive was coming out of this and no some angey players who keep necro bumming this topic up they have kicking in the islands so more belly aching is not going to change anything after another month they may remove the kick option when interest drops off.

My only issue with the target filter option is that I still get chocobos as potential targets. Is there something I'm missing? I thought chocobos were considered pets or minions or whatever.

The only target I have checked is NPCs/Objects (I use the keybind a ton anyway, since I do a lot of gathering).

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