Housing and Island Sanctuary connected

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08-27-2022, 01:28 AM
Super_Smiley

Housing and Island Sanctuary connected

I believe it would be better if we have the removal of the Housing system and just add it in Island Sanctuary. Basically everyone would need to be notified about the removal of housing in advance and have their items be in storage. Also players can choose which size they would want for their house in Island Sanctuary. Sadly this will also mean players need to complete Endwalker 6.0 and redecorate their House again. But I feel this a better decision in the long run. Plus players not only get their own house but thier own Island all in one package. With this addition players wouldn't want to leave their Island at all now :D

Hope its something the development team considers.
08-27-2022, 01:40 AM
Caitlinzulu

I hope this isnt even under consideration.
1. Having to redo the decorations is a pain to begin with and not everything goes into storage
2. You would never get to see anyone passing by, with wards chances are slim with island its just about zero
3. Why would it be better? Server load would still be there so it wouldnt be possible for everyone to get a house without crashing the servers.
4. At the moment i have experienced problems just entering my house/or fc house ever since latest patch and sanctuary island. Just entering to tend flowerpots/aetherial wheels or submersibles is a problem around prime time.
5. Exclude everyone who hasnt finished Endwalker from housing? Thats just plain evil.
Servers are being hammered at the moment and i dont want it to get any worse by having uncontrolled expansion of housing possibly leading to instance server crashes and nobody able to get in or out of their house
08-27-2022, 04:08 AM
Jojoya

I don't agree that merging housing into Island Sanctuary is the best solution.

Among other things, what about players that don't want to live on a tropical island? What about those who like their snowy Ishgard, desert Thanalan, forest Gridania?

It would also be problematic for RP venues or FCs holding server events at their housing, not to mention the large FCs themselves since there's a limit of 16 players on an island at a time.

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

I hope this isnt even under consideration.
1. Having to redo the decorations is a pain to begin with and not everything goes into storage
2. You would never get to see anyone passing by, with wards chances are slim with island its just about zero
3. Why would it be better? Server load would still be there so it wouldnt be possible for everyone to get a house without crashing the servers.
4. At the moment i have experienced problems just entering my house/or fc house ever since latest patch and sanctuary island. Just entering to tend flowerpots/aetherial wheels or submersibles is a problem around prime time.
5. Exclude everyone who hasnt finished Endwalker from housing? Thats just plain evil.
Servers are being hammered at the moment and i dont want it to get any worse by having uncontrolled expansion of housing possibly leading to instance server crashes and nobody able to get in or out of their house

Playing devil's advocate on a couple of these:
1 - every furnishing but Chocobo Stable and Miniature Aetheryte can be added into the Storeroom and those two items have special handling in relocations. The big problem would be exceeding storeroom limit but that could be something SE could address by temporarily increasing Storerooms to 800 furnishing after a relocation.

2 - I never see anyone passing by my house as it is. No change there for most house owners. Not everyone wants their house to be on display for passing strangers.

3 - It would be possible for everyone to get a house. What would not be possible would be for everyone to be in their own house at the same time. It would be very rare for that to happen.

4 - Right now it's a problem because Island Sanctuary is new content and everyone wants to get their hideaway upgraded as fast as possible so they're spending hours in it instead of minutes. Once that's done, most players won't find much reason to spend more than 15-20 minutes in it a couple of times a week to collect things and update their workshop agendas. Those who don't care about getting the vanity rewards probably will stop bothering with it all together. Things will go back to normal until the next major content release for Island Sanctuary.

5- can't argue against your #5. Players shouldn't be gated from this type of content because they haven't reached an arbitrary MSQ progression point. The story SE used for how we end up on the island didn't make all that much sense. (don't want to go into detail here because of spoilers).
08-27-2022, 04:19 AM
NightHour

I hope it's something they don't consider.
08-27-2022, 04:38 AM
Oizen

I hope they never change the current housing system, which is literally perfect in every single way especially in supply and there are no faults with Square Enix or the housing system please stop wanting content to be better in this game please stop wanting content to be better in this game please stop wanting content to be better in this game
08-27-2022, 04:58 AM
MistyMew

Island sanctuary would have been great as housing if they completely changed it lol.

Im mean IF it was to just give EVERYONE (lv1 and up ) an island to build any style of home on.

S,M,L? ..multiple homes ...whatever we want to create. with a huge item limit to go with it.

THAT would have been a patch to remember , one to be proud of and one to actually solve issues that have been avoided for 8years.
/poof
/solved.

(But we got .....an island with predetermined looks, predetermined homes/buildings/designs/activities/purpose, everything already decided for us.
how ....stimulating.)

not a horrible addition..just extremely basic and very very predictable...
08-27-2022, 05:34 AM
Arazehl

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistyMew

Island sanctuary would have been great as housing if they completely changed it lol.

Im mean IF it was to just give EVERYONE (lv1 and up ) an island to build any style of home on.

S,M,L? ..multiple homes ...whatever we want to create. with a huge item limit to go with it.

THAT would have been a patch to remember , one to be proud of and one to actually solve issues that have been avoided for 8years.
/poof
/solved.

(But we got .....an island with predetermined looks, predetermined homes/buildings/designs/activities/purpose, everything already decided for us.
how ....stimulating.)

not a horrible addition..just extremely basic and very very predictable...

I think why Square decided to limit it to end game is because if they added in all low to mid levels to receive an island, you'd never get into Island Sanctuary. This theory holds more truth and common sense tells you it would be so much worse. These forums, reddit and other social medias would be screaming in pain.

If Island Sanctuary were instance housing and they got rid of housing wards, then you have all the clubs and other venues drawing in pretty big numbers of players on the weekends. The most effected zone would be Moraby Drydocks. The people trying to get to their house, the guests trying to get to their venue, from a single location, added with the AFKers being pushed back out in 30 minutes.

I say no thanks, I like housing better as it is, or until a better system is improved for instance housing.
08-27-2022, 07:29 AM
Shibi

Silliest OF idea for quite a while.
08-27-2022, 06:45 PM
LaylaTsarra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super_Smiley

I believe it would be better if we have the removal of the Housing system and just add it in Island Sanctuary. Basically everyone would need to be notified about the removal of housing in advance and have their items be in storage. .

Not going to happen. Dream on.
08-28-2022, 01:01 AM
saxman09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

I hope this isnt even under consideration.
1. Having to redo the decorations is a pain to begin with and not everything goes into storage
2. You would never get to see anyone passing by, with wards chances are slim with island its just about zero
3. Why would it be better? Server load would still be there so it wouldnt be possible for everyone to get a house without crashing the servers.

1) Then don't move?
2) Let me guess you are the type that loves to show off or has more than one house.
3)THEY GAVE US ENTIRE INSTANCED ISLANDS, A SINGLE HOUSE/MANSION IS NOTHING IN COMPARISON TO AN ISLAND.
08-28-2022, 01:51 AM
Siniztor

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

I hope this isnt even under consideration.
1. Having to redo the decorations is a pain to begin with and not everything goes into storage
2. You would never get to see anyone passing by, with wards chances are slim with island its just about zero
3. Why would it be better? Server load would still be there so it wouldnt be possible for everyone to get a house without crashing the servers.
4. At the moment i have experienced problems just entering my house/or fc house ever since latest patch and sanctuary island. Just entering to tend flowerpots/aetherial wheels or submersibles is a problem around prime time.
5. Exclude everyone who hasnt finished Endwalker from housing? Thats just plain evil.
Servers are being hammered at the moment and i dont want it to get any worse by having uncontrolled expansion of housing possibly leading to instance server crashes and nobody able to get in or out of their house

This part i find interesting that they connected the island to the apartments n housing servers.. I have had not had a problem with any zone just my apartment..

Makes me wonder if this is the foundation of instance housing as in soon we can deco in there..
08-28-2022, 07:26 AM
KurohNeko

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super_Smiley

I believe it would be better if we have the removal of the Housing system and just add it in Island Sanctuary. Basically everyone would need to be notified about the removal of housing in advance and have their items be in storage. Also players can choose which size they would want for their house in Island Sanctuary. Sadly this will also mean players need to complete Endwalker 6.0 and redecorate their House again. But I feel this a better decision in the long run. Plus players not only get their own house but thier own Island all in one package. With this addition players wouldn't want to leave their Island at all now :D

Hope its something the development team considers.

Or they touch nothing and I just keep my Ishgardian house and my new private island separately. I have my summer home and my winter home.
08-28-2022, 08:47 AM
Greyhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxman09

1) Then don't move?
2) Let me guess you are the type that loves to show off or has more than one house.
3)THEY GAVE US ENTIRE INSTANCED ISLANDS, A SINGLE HOUSE/MANSION IS NOTHING IN COMPARISON TO AN ISLAND.

Did you even compare what the OP said and this response to the OP? No, you didn't. The OP is talking about removing housing altogether and replacing it with I.S.

1. So, then if he doesn't move, he is just ass out of a house? Really?
2. Who cares about this? You can visit other islands and show off anyways. If not, you can ... turn it off. Irrelevant anyways to the post.
3. It doesn't work the same. It's no wonder we are constantly locked out of these instances - yeah, let's compare apples to boulders and call it the same.
4. Glad you aren't development of any kind in this game. Attention to detail is really lacking.
08-28-2022, 12:52 PM
dspguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistyMew

Island sanctuary would have been great as housing if they completely changed it lol.

Im mean IF it was to just give EVERYONE (lv1 and up ) an island to build any style of home on.

S,M,L? ..multiple homes ...whatever we want to create. with a huge item limit to go with it.

THAT would have been a patch to remember , one to be proud of and one to actually solve issues that have been avoided for 8years.
/poof
/solved.

(But we got .....an island with predetermined looks, predetermined homes/buildings/designs/activities/purpose, everything already decided for us.
how ....stimulating.)

not a horrible addition..just extremely basic and very very predictable...

Maybe they'll expand on it the same way they expanded on chocobo racing. Oh wait.

I'm with you though. Maybe require us to build a small house and later on a medium and much later a large. That would have been nice. Keep in mind that the only reason everyone can have an island is that the options ARE limited (and rudimentary).
08-30-2022, 11:56 PM
Avoidy

There was a datamined picture floating around of a big plot of land in the sanctuary with a house on it. I saw it in passing the other day on a subreddit or something. This has led many to wonder if the devs are in fact tinkering with the idea of homes in the islands. Time will tell I guess.
I can try and find the pic when I get home if anyone's actually interested.
08-31-2022, 05:48 AM
SpiritTamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avoidy

There was a datamined picture floating around of a big plot of land in the sanctuary with a house on it. I saw it in passing the other day on a subreddit or something. This has led many to wonder if the devs are in fact tinkering with the idea of homes in the islands. Time will tell I guess.
I can try and find the pic when I get home if anyone's actually interested.

I have heard of a picture like that floating around, but I have found absolutely nothing while trying to search for it.
08-31-2022, 04:17 PM
Avoidy

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiritTamer

I have heard of a picture like that floating around, but I have found absolutely nothing while trying to search for it.

To be clear, I didn't take these myself. And if posting them violates some rule, I'll just edit/delete it, but here is what I've seen passed around.
https://imgur.com/a/L8ee9zO
Obviously don't click it if you don't want to see possible future content.
08-31-2022, 08:29 PM
Pablomaldito

Instanced houses should be implemented, but I don't think they should necessarily be tied to the island sanctuary, and I am definitely against taking away the already existing houses in the wards.

I'd like to see instanced houses that are accessible from a directory in each of the housing districts, so that players who opt for instanced houses can have the same choices of environment and house style that one gets when buying a standard ward house.

edit: I also just realized some cons for having instanced housing in the island sanctuary. First of all, it's gated by finishing Endwalker. That's a much higher bar than any of the housing districts. Furthermore, the island sanctuary access limits would be issue. Only your friends and FC mates would be able to visit your house, they'd be limited to 15 at a time, and they can only visit your house while you are present on the island. If a house could be accessed from a directory in the housing districts (just like apartments), it would not have to be bound by these restrictions.
08-31-2022, 09:25 PM
Anvaire

i think it could be an either / or situation - add instanced housing to the island, or another system that allows you to set the style of the area, leave the current neighbourhoods as they are. It could alleviate the lack of available housing issue while providing unique options to the instanced housing as a benefit.
09-01-2022, 03:20 AM
Greyhawk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avoidy

To be clear, I didn't take these myself. And if posting them violates some rule, I'll just edit/delete it, but here is what I've seen passed around.
https://imgur.com/a/L8ee9zO
Obviously don't click it if you don't want to see possible future content.

Sorry, but that 'datamine' looks faker than fake fake'd a fake image, lol
09-02-2022, 08:15 AM
SpiritTamer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avoidy

To be clear, I didn't take these myself. And if posting them violates some rule, I'll just edit/delete it, but here is what I've seen passed around.
https://imgur.com/a/L8ee9zO
Obviously don't click it if you don't want to see possible future content.

It does resemble the style of buildings on the island. But I won't get my hopes up.
09-03-2022, 04:42 AM
Jojoya

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpiritTamer

It does resemble the style of buildings on the island. But I won't get my hopes up.

Hate to burst bubbles but that's the Half-Timbered Wall skin with welcome sign, windows and door removed. The trees and other flora are wrong for the current island as well.

I get the feeling that's not a true datamined image but someone's mockup of what instanced housing could look like created through using art assets from Mist and other parts of La Noscea.