Was afk for a bit near one of the gates in Uldah, and noticed quite a lot of players (bots) spawn and immediately vanish, as if they teleported away to somewhere else:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1565858572
I've noticed this as well in other areas that you need to travel to for MSQ, but how is this even possible? How are players even able to do this? Shouldn't there be some mechanism preventing people from teleporting all over the place?
Bots teleporting in Uldah?
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08-19-2022, 06:57 AMEscanorSunshineBots teleporting in Uldah?
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08-19-2022, 07:10 AMP0sitr0nic
Ive seen this since ARR. The way the game is coded in its essence allows hacks to do this. :(
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08-19-2022, 07:24 AMEscanorSunshineRegardless of how the game is coded, there should be server-sided countermeasures preventing this from happening in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by P0sitr0nic
Otherwise you could do whatever you wanted in the game and there wouldn ever be any issues. -
08-19-2022, 03:04 PMP0sitr0nic
Its already supposed to be a ban offense, but i still see it.
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08-19-2022, 03:16 PMJeeqbit
Teleporting can happen just because of network or FPS lag. You can fall through the map underground because of bugs (although I've only experienced this 2 or 3 times). An automatic countermeasure might get people who didn't do it intentionally.
The bans happen in waves, so even if they know about them they don't ban them all right away. -
08-19-2022, 03:22 PMMisplaced_MarblesAnd they've been doing their little waves for years. YEARS! Obviously it's not doing anything. They'd need to spend money to possibly see results, hence why were stuck with an inadequate team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
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08-19-2022, 03:26 PMDixieBellOCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDTTULMk75Q
Another one from Materia DC.
Only way to stop them is an actual Anticheat, which square do not want to do. -
08-19-2022, 03:27 PMDixieBellOCEIts Cheat Engine, forcing new coordinates as they disconnect to auto-teleport anywhere on the map.Quote:
Originally Posted by EscanorSunshine
Its how they bot all the MSQ, just teleport to mob, teleport to hand in, teleport to next quest ect ect -
08-19-2022, 04:37 PMUkcsAliasWhen money is involved, makers will find ways to circumvent those things. The only reliable way is server side detection. And this is very limited.Quote:
Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE
Dont think that any anticheat is effective, even if they are as rootkit, cheaters will just use an OS that mimics the normal OS, to give the rootkit the idea they are truly in the root, while effectively there is still code above it that they cant see. The only disadvantage of this method is stability, and botters do generaly not realy care if their server crashes occasionaly (they will just ensure a decent reboot mechanism to restart everthing automaticly). These sort of cheats are used in FPS games for the past 10 years already and have shown to be very hard to detect. Most games for that reason already rely on 3rd party detection because of its difficulty.
Note, those fps games generaly dont even involve money in it! Money is generaly going to make people more willing to break through it. Its a serious business to make such things, and therefor takes a serious business to counter it. And thats why you are generaly always a step behind.
And another problem is, as reputation doesnt matter, late detection barely matters.
Its realy not an easy thing, it takes a lot of effort and costs quite a bit of money to still only get a half decent system. -
08-19-2022, 04:41 PMSotaris
Nothing new. I seen it a lot more on the new servers, I guess cause they can do msq much faster with the road to 80 buff.
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08-19-2022, 04:50 PMLarirawielAnticheats stop only those people, who want to be stopped. :) So do not expect, that it will stop professional botters.Quote:
Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE
Cheers