So, as the title says, I'm taking a bit of a break from the game; been playing the game as much as possible since last March, and with my sub having ran out recently, I made the call to try and take a bit of a break before jumping back in. I do have a few things I would like to vent about; nothing about you guys, mind you, I'd say that this forum is probably the brightest spot on my FFXIV experience in general, no joke.
First off, the story. After fighting my way through the entirety of Stormblood and the main story for Shadowbringers, I wanted to try and get my thoughts out. For one, I didn't entirely hate Stormblood by the end of it; sure, there plenty of moments that I disliked, such as the lack of focus on Ala Mhigo, the fact that some areas just seemed to drag on for way too long at points, and the poor development of Lyse. However, there were also points that I loved, like the boss fight against Susano - even though I'm a terrible tank - and seeing my man Gosetsu happy in the post-patch content made the entire situation with Tsuyu worth it.
Also, watching Yotsuyu off her rather dickish family was probably my favorite scene of the entire Stormblood story, period.
By contrast, when I went into Shadowbringers, I was expecting a story that would easily blow everything else in the game out of the water, and... I found the story to be a bit overhyped. Again, it was in no way bad - Alphinaud's roasting of Vauthry, the entire final area and the resulting boss battles, the story and design of the Sin Eaters, and the fact that just about every character in the story felt like they had some form of development and depth were genuine high points.
However, with all of these highs, there were a few lows; in particular, Ran'jit's character felt very flat, and I feel like him being cut from the story wouldn't have made much of a difference. Likewise, there constant feelings of melancholy and depression made some parts of the story a bit of a chore to get through; sure, I knew it was going to all end well, but some parts were just a little too angsty. From a gameplay perspective, I found most of the dungeons to be a bit of a slog; I dunno if it was just the AI of the Trust system, but I found most of the encounters to go on just a bit too long, like we weren't getting out enough damage. Notably, the same dungeons felt a good deal better when I was running with a party of actual players, so I'm not sure.
Make zero mistake, it was certainly a good expansion overall, but I feel like it was blown just a bit out of proportion by the fanbase.
I still have the post-Shb MSQ to run through, though, so maybe that'll help alleviate some of the feelings I have? As for Endwalker... I dunno, I'm interested in it myself, but I've also heard that it's supposedly really bad story-wise, so I'm just a bit hesitant.
Aside from the story, however, I also have been having some mild trouble with gameplay. I was able to find a DPS job I loved - seriously, shout-out to the guys who recommended Red Mage, that job is awesome - but with my group's tank stepping down so he can run Machinist, I'm now going to be taking over that role... and I certainly feel like I'm improving (another shout-out to the guys on the Tank forums for giving me tips, by the way), but it's requiring an adjustment period. That, and I was trying to get a tank job all planned out for soloing old content, like the Bahamut raids; with some jobs just being better than others for solo content, whether it's due to complexity or survivability, it requires a massive chunk of planning.
My last issue is with glamours; aside from the lack of care shown towards the Hrothgar and Viera races, I was also trying to get several glamour designs all figured out, but they don't always fit well with the jobs that they correspond. For instance, there's a certain Sin Eater tank glam that I've been trying to work on: a particular headpiece only works with DRK and WAR. However, neither job really works for said glam; DRK uses a ton of darkness-based attacks - which, given that Sin Eaters are creatures of light, makes said usage look a little odd - while Warrior just simply doesn't have a weapon that I really like the looks of; not really a fan of axes, and the 2 hammers available look too oversized to take seriously.
With all that said: I still love this game. I love the lore, I love the setting, and I love you guys; every time I'd have a question, you guys would be there with genuine support and kindness, which is a massive step above the Reddit and Discord communities. It's not hyperbole to say that you guys are the main reason why I've continued playing; you guys might think it's cheesy, but it's genuinely true.
For now, I'm taking a break to try and get some stuff sorted out; I plan on coming back when everything is cleared up on my end, but for now, I hope to see you later.
Taking a break, would like to vent a little...
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08-14-2022, 02:11 AMTravelTaking a break, would like to vent a little...
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08-14-2022, 02:13 AMNaoki34
Why do you need to tell us?
Damn, I'm playing a lot of different games while waiting for 6.2... I really should have told you this too, I'm sure you would have liked to know that! -
08-14-2022, 02:26 AMSyln
Cult of the lamb looks like a fine and cheap game if it can help !
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08-14-2022, 03:40 AMJeeqbit
I suggest not listening to other people's opinions about Endwalker and just experiencing it for yourself. The more you listen to others you will probably get spoiled.
That planning reduces the higher level you get. At level 90 you don't really need to plan much for the bahamut raids. You aren't going to die unless you land in the edge of the arena or have to handle the enemies that tether in the 11th one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travel
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08-14-2022, 03:47 AMDeveryn
Some things can't be soloed, no matter how high level you get. T9 will not let you past the first phase without someone else to manage golems.
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08-14-2022, 04:02 AMMilkieTeait is *absolutely* possible to Solo T9 - I've literally solo'd both T9 and T9S, you can oneshot the Golems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deveryn
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08-14-2022, 05:27 AMRenaltTell me EVERYTHING about your day. Give me your secrets!Quote:
Originally Posted by Naoki34
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08-14-2022, 05:34 AMImoraI've not been able to.Quote:
Originally Posted by MilkieTea
I know it's doable tho. -
08-14-2022, 05:58 AMMilkieTeaT9S took me about 30 minutes to solo since I kept missing timing on one of the golems and they kept absorbing the other golem and becoming nigh-invincible. Once I got the timing down it took maybe 3 more tries to figure out what exactly to do, and then it was fine LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imora
T9 is faster, but I recommend going in as something with higher damage - I went in on smn and nuked the golems using Titan/Energy Drain/Fester/Ruin IV -
08-14-2022, 06:23 AMSeera1024The Trust system is designed to be slower than a group of actual players doing the content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travel
The devs want players to play with other players but realize that that is sometimes easier said than done for some. Such as those with odd play hours or high social anxiety. Or those whose play style greatly differs from the majority. -
08-14-2022, 08:55 AMEquitable_RemedyI genuinely don't understand this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travel
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08-14-2022, 08:57 AMSturmChurroThis forum is largely the only area I personally interact with the FFXIV community, so it's a brighter spot in a way for me too. Friended some from the forum outside of it too. I'd definitely rather discuss the game here than somewhere like Reddit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy
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08-14-2022, 08:58 AMSupersnow845Seriously it is basically the only part where both halves of the fan base are present and everything just devolves into arguments, Facebook groups and the main reddit sub are overwhelmingly casual focused, the shitpost and discussion subs are overwhelmingly high end focused so generally you know what playerbase you are talking toQuote:
Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy
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08-14-2022, 09:21 AMTaleraRistainThis in regards to that point. Duty Support is not intended to be as fast as other players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seera1024
Glad you were able to get some good answers and assistance here. Enjoy your break! It's healthy to step away for a bit when needed and come back with enthusiasm. -
08-14-2022, 09:26 AMKnot_DYou can just use BLU to Final Sting Nael immediately :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Deveryn
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08-14-2022, 09:34 AMSupersnow845I’m also 99% sure you can just DPS down nael at this point, you could definitely do it in ShB and as far as I’m aware the squish was not favourable to coils so I believe you could do it on most DPS jobs at this point, it just requires pooling a certain amount of resources to burst her down when she enters golem phaseQuote:
Originally Posted by Knot_D
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08-14-2022, 10:06 AMRenaltCome to Balmung. Most social spot in the entirety of FFXIV. You will usually find me in Steps of Nald in Uldah around the X-10 an Y-8 doing either Push-ups, sit-ups, or squats. Just pick a spot next to me and either start a conversation in Shout or in /Say. People are chatty and don't let the whole "ERP central" dissuade you...most of us don't do anything of that and just chat about whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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08-14-2022, 01:05 PMKrojackI don't know a single person who said this. Everyone I know and everyone I watched stream or on YT loved it. Everyone even said "I didn't think Shadowbringers could be topped but they did it." response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travel
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08-14-2022, 01:13 PMTravelTo be honest, I just felt like posting it I guess. I saw that post a while back about a guy that rage quit on the Shb MSQ, gave me an idea to post my own thoughts and experiences, along with venting a little bit about some of my grievances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naoki34
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08-14-2022, 01:29 PMTravelBelieve it or not, I've had a genuinely positive experience with you guys, in comparison to the Reddit and Discord; on the former from my experience, asking for help or having a dissenting opinion will just get you mocked and downvoted into oblivion. Meanwhile, the Discord was no real help in general; aside from some help with glamours and a few minor subjects, any "advice" I've gotten on gameplay was basically either "here's a vague guide, figure it out yourself", or in some cases "if you don't play this way then you shouldn't be playing at all", whereas you guys have given me both actual good advice and even so surprising amounts of encouragement, from my experiences. Yes, there has been some negativity, but the positive stuff I've gotten from you guys is a lot higher in comparison, and very much nice in comparison to elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy
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08-14-2022, 04:24 PMSturmChurroRight, I forgot about the visit or whatever. So this would be possible without me having to transfer. I'll think about it, maybe. I rarely have the initiative to actually start chatting with someone though. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
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08-14-2022, 04:40 PMCarin-Eri
So far as Endwalker is concerned, all I can really say is try it and form your own opinion. This is one of those scenarios where you really have to experience it for yourself.
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08-14-2022, 06:15 PMNaoki34Nah I can't, you looks like a weirdo, maybe next time, okey ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
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08-14-2022, 07:47 PMFrizzeIs it the eyepatch? I bet its the eyepatch. Or the muttonchops. But probably the eyepatch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naoki34
For the OP: There is nothing wrong with taking a break. Whenever you decide to return, youre going to have plenty to do. Some of it highly thought of by the community, some of it not so highly. If possible, i would try to ignore the hype and equally ignore anyone harping on points they didnt like. This is your story, so you get to decide how you feel about it. -
08-14-2022, 08:56 PMLaurontBecause it is a forum here to provide feedback - which the poster did in their post - and an avenue for discussion with other players? After all, the devs ask for feedback at the end of a sub, and this is but another venue for feedback. Why do you feel the need to question it? I'd maybe agree if the poster had just dropped a line to say they're taking a break, but it's not that, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Naoki34
Then I'd question your exposure to those other venues they mentioned. That or a case of wilful failure of comprehension.Quote:
Originally Posted by Equitable_Remedy
Then search a little wider. Either here, reddit XIV discussion, or if you wanna go farther afield, there is 5ch, and even some threads on mainsub reddit... I'd also question how authentic a view you're getting from many streamers given the reaction they typically receive to any critical commentary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krojack
With that said...
^this is decent advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeqbit
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08-14-2022, 11:15 PMTravel
I've seen a few posts on here mentioning that Endwalker apparently had a "lackluster story", among other things. I never bothered to read the posts myself - I'm wanting to go into END as blind as possible - but it was enough to make me mildly concerned.
Still hyped for the expansion, regardless; like another commenter said - seriously, how do I quote multiple comments in a single post? - I want to experience the expansion myself and draw my own conclusions. -
08-14-2022, 11:44 PMHurlstoneOn the bottom right of the post you want to multi quote there is a speech bubble with a plus symbol, clicking it will add it to a que so when you do 'Reply with Quote' to someone, it will also add that quote to the message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travel
Anyway, taking a break is never a bad thing. One of the great things about FFXIV is that there is little FOMO. I never felt like I was in a rush to beat the stories and expansions, outside of possible spoilers, which meant I could concentrate on doing post-patch raids and dungeons. Now more then ever it is designed to be tackled at your own pace. As for Endwalker, I 100% think you should play it to make up your own decision as others have said. Some really despised it, others like myself adored it (I will note however that I am the type of player who enjoyed Stormblood more then Heavensward haha) Art is always subjective, no matter the medium or quality. -
08-15-2022, 02:36 AMTMW001
I bought Spider-man from Steam and also did my crafting got BS story down just gotta max it.
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08-15-2022, 02:46 AMRenaltYeah you can world/Data server visit easily enough. Actually some of our MOST active chatty people are travelers anyway. It's about 50/50 between native and traveler. I Probably won't be on tonight cause having my friends meet old friends tonight for dinner but pretty much I'm on roughly around 8PM Mountain time. If I have a day off...my schedule is random.Quote:
Originally Posted by SturmChurro
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08-15-2022, 02:48 AMRenaltIs it because I look like an 80s Bassist? That's how someone described my plate and it kinda was voted anonymously on the server that THAT was exactly it. And here I was trying to aim to look as close to Big Boss as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frizze
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08-15-2022, 11:26 AMSturmChurroI play at very random and odd hours as well, if I'm not just outright AFK somewhere in-game. Sometimes I log on, do a raid or roulette, then log off. Maybe get on again in a few hours, do the same, log off. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Renalt
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08-15-2022, 12:22 PMDuskanenah just one shot nael with blue mage or insta kill golems before they have a chance to move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deveryn
during meteor phase just move around arena yourself you can survive the meteor explosions and golems will be spread out. -
08-16-2022, 03:01 AMRenaltYeah BLU is just the nuclear option if you want to clear content quickly...and solo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duskane
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08-16-2022, 03:38 AMRawr18Same reason you chose to reply to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naoki34
Because they can.