How aesthetically representative of "NieR: Automata" is FFXIV's YoRHa content?

Obviously I know that the dwarves are the FFXIV end of the crossover (and honestly the worst part of it all IMO), but as someone who "discovered" NieR via said crossover, and who is eyeing the game's now prominent place on my Steam wishlist, I suppose I should ask how much of the visual and audible presentation of the NieR stuff in FFXIV is on the mark? Are the music bits ripped right from NieR? I did notice the presence of the "prelude" arpeggio in one of the boss fight themes, so I imagine there's some creative cross pollination going on, but as someone thinking of not waiting for the game to go on sale, I'm curious how "faithful" the crossover was to the source material!

I literally made an alt to wear the 2b gear (gunned her from 1 to 80 in a few days) after clearing the raid on my main last weekish, and I'm pretty obsessed right now!

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Originally Posted by Omedon

Obviously I know that the dwarves are the FFXIV end of the crossover (and honestly the worst part of it all IMO), but as someone who "discovered" NieR via said crossover, and who is eyeing the game's now prominent place on my Steam wishlist, I suppose I should ask how much of the visual and audible presentation of the NieR stuff in FFXIV is on the mark? Are the music bits ripped right from NieR? I did notice the presence of the "prelude" arpeggio in one of the boss fight themes, so I imagine there's some creative cross pollination going on, but as someone thinking of not waiting for the game to go on sale, I'm curious how "faithful" the crossover was to the source material!

I literally made an alt to wear the 2b gear (gunned her from 1 to 80 in a few days) after clearing the raid on my main last weekish, and I'm pretty obsessed right now!

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All the music comes directly from Automata with the exception of the final bosses which are all remixes.
The aesthetic is mostly spot on but the raids do an incredibly poor job at showing what the story of NieR:Automata is actually about. Which is a good or a bad thing depending on the PoV.

I can't answer as I haven't played Nier. But on my end I see, "More of 2B? Where do I sign?"

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Originally Posted by Gemina

I can't answer as I haven't played Nier. But on my end I see, "More of 2B? Where do I sign?"

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It's funny, I'm not above cloning a favorite other-game character in FFXIV, as I've done it before, but not knowing anything about 2B beyond what we get in FFXIV, I instead opted to make a little "android battlemaiden" crossover of my own. Since the 2B attire is dyeable, I made a "KOS-MOS," and now she's all in blue, black and grey/white 2B with ironworks weapons! It's a complete aesthetic for multiple jobs and I love her so much! She's the only thing keeping me from no-lifing "NeiR: Automata" right now!

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Originally Posted by Omedon

It's funny, I'm not above cloning a favorite other-game character in FFXIV, as I've done it before, but not knowing anything about 2B beyond what we get in FFXIV, I instead opted to make a little "android battlemaiden" crossover of my own. Since the 2B attire is dyeable, I made a "KOS-MOS," and now she's all in blue, black and grey/white 2B with ironworks weapons! It's a complete aesthetic for multiple jobs and I love her so much! She's the only thing keeping me from no-lifing "NeiR: Automata" right now!

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Oh I've cosplayed some of my favorite non FFXIV characters. Zero suit Samus Aran, Cammy from Street Fighter, Zelda dressed as Link. It can be fun looking for the right glamours to pull it off.

As for Nier. It's not all 2B I'm intrigued by. The other 10% or so of interest is in the music and story as well. If it wasn't for Yohra collab, I probably wouldn't even know who 2B is. There's just always something going on in XIV that keeps me from getting into it. And now island sanctuary is coming soon. If there's a will there's a way though, right?

People calling 2B after playing Automata its an insult.

Haven't played it. But her wiki page refers to 2B as a viable alias. Also WAY easier to say

Firstly, I'd just like to say that in my opinion everyone should play through NieR: Automata at least once if they can as its an absolute masterpiece (and not just route A). I can't recommend it enough.

But to answer your question - the Nier raids are aesthetically and visually very representitive of NieR:A as most of the music is straight from Automata, save for the boss fight remixes, as someone else already pointed out. 2B's outfit is absolutely identical and I believe every piece of gear that you get from the raids is either taken from the game itself directly or from something related to Automata that isn't the game itself (but is still official Automata material). The Pods and Stubby minions are from the game as well.

Story-wise however - not in the slightest. The raids have locations that are visually similar/the same to places from Automata but the story is not in any way related to it. I won't go into Automata's story, I'd just say go play it and find out yourself instead. It's worth it.

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Originally Posted by Flaws

Story-wise however - not in the slightest. The raids have locations that are visually similar/the same to places from Automata but the story is not in any way related to it. I won't go into Automata's story, I'd just say go play it and find out yourself instead. It's worth it.

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I figured that. Several players voiced a bit of disappointment with YoRHa: Dark Apocalypse, and some of that seemed to have stemmed from the 24-man raid having very little to do with the actual story of NiER: Automata. Some homages to the characters, enemies, music, and scenery, but nothing to add to the original story. I got the impression those players really loved NieR, and were wanting more of it. I totally get it if it really was that amazing of a game.

For those of us not in the know, we got a really fun raid series (Puppet's Bunker still remains my favorite 24-man), awesome glamours, 2B's backside, introduced to some new characters, and got a small taste of NieR: Automata that has undoubtedly sent many to go experience it. I know that if I really enjoyed my experience with a game and story, anything that would get others to experience it also would be heavily supported by me.

Story-wise, there's almost no actual connection to Nier Automata outside of some character names and some of the mobs in the Copied Factory, most notably Engels.

Aesthetically, it does okay, considering Nier has a very different combat style to try to map into XIV's system.

I do recommend trying it for yourself, just don't expect much of the crossover to actually matter. (Also, try to go in as spoiler-free as possible, the game throws some big curveballs at you.)

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Originally Posted by Flaws

Firstly, I'd just like to say that in my opinion everyone should play through NieR: Automata at least once if they can as its an absolute masterpiece (and not just route A). I can't recommend it enough.

But to answer your question - the Nier raids are aesthetically and visually very representitive of NieR:A as most of the music is straight from Automata, save for the boss fight remixes, as someone else already pointed out. 2B's outfit is absolutely identical and I believe every piece of gear that you get from the raids is either taken from the game itself directly or from something related to Automata that isn't the game itself (but is still official Automata material). The Pods and Stubby minions are from the game as well.

Story-wise however - not in the slightest. The raids have locations that are visually similar/the same to places from Automata but the story is not in any way related to it. I won't go into Automata's story, I'd just say go play it and find out yourself instead. It's worth it.

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the important part is to remember that Yoko Taro is either a genius, a madman, or a troll and he has no problem putting critical plot details in other forms of media that a person playing just one of the games may never know about

dark apocalypse did further entwine the Drakengard and Nier universes via the Seed of Destruction which doesn't come up in Automata at all but is a big deal in Drakengard
Drakengard 3 had a character that was revealed to be an android but exactly how an android existed in Drakengard's more medieval/fantasy setting was not fully explained

so atm it could just be a side story but later it could be an essential plot point in a Drakengard 4 or an Automata 2
only Yoko Taro knows

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Originally Posted by Rowde

the important part is to remember that Yoko Taro is either a genius, a madman, or a troll and he has no problem putting critical plot details in other forms of media that a person playing just one of the games may never know about

dark apocalypse did further entwine the Drakengard and Nier universes via the Seed of Destruction which doesn't come up in Automata at all but is a big deal in Drakengard
Drakengard 3 had a character that was revealed to be an android but exactly how an android existed in Drakengard's more medieval/fantasy setting was not fully explained

so atm it could just be a side story but later it could be an essential plot point in a Drakengard 4 or an Automata 2
only Yoko Taro knows

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That's pretty cool then. I am new to Yoko Taro's work (Automata was my first when it came out and I'm about to get into Replicant very soon) so I had no idea about the connection to Drakengard.

I recall once saying, while the raids were still current-ish, "This all probably makes a lot more sense if you're actually familiar with Nier games."

Was assured that, no, it's kinda all always intentionally confusing.

I, too, decided to try the games out some time after the raids. Sure, the visuals are nice. And the music is certainly top notch. Story kinda doesn't live up to the hype, tho, imo. But, maybe biased, might be more incredible if you didn't have your own teenage existentialism phase.

Honestly, all the raid does is be the first step of confirming Red Girl's origin...

and to go "oh, that makes sense!" on why that is, you need to finish the E route in the NieR: Replicant remake.

As for how it wound up on the First, a world that I'm not entirely sure is in the same "space/universe" as the Source, is anyone's guess.

I haven't played NieR: Automata, but have watched a friend play parts of it whilst they streamed it. It looks amazing.

And as a sidenote, I have to confess..... the song 'Weight of the World' breaks me every time I hear it. Those lyrics... that music... FFXIV certainly has music that chokes me up (Close in the Distance for example) but 'Weight of the World' seems to know exactly how to pull the heartstrings.

I tend to think the fact that it was apparently the game's Dev team singing the chorus increases the impact too; as the comments on Youtube say, it was the developers YOLO attempt to save the studio and they decided to make the game they wanted to make, rather than the game most likely to sell.
https://youtu.be/Ag7EEGEViAw

Have played Automata and discovered/played while waiting for Shadowbringers:

Visually they share many elements but the stories are basically unconnected beyond characters, similar to when Noctis rolled into Eorzea.

Story wise, your mileage will vary depending on what you like/dislike, but I will say I thoroughly enjoyed it and recommend playing it completely blind/spoiler free. Wasn’t anything particularly new or groundbreaking story wise or gameplay, but it was done well enough for my enjoyment.

I wanna say a lotta people who played and enjoyed it...essentially “came for the 2booty, but found gold”

I did not play any other Nier games or Drakengard, and that really had no impact on my enjoyment..though there might have been a few references I didnt get, but again, zero impact on my enjoyment.

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Originally Posted by Kazhar

All the music comes directly from Automata with the exception of the final bosses which are all remixes.
The aesthetic is mostly spot on but the raids do an incredibly poor job at showing what the story of NieR:Automata is actually about. Which is a good or a bad thing depending on the PoV.

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Although the entire nier/drakengard plot can be simplified to "Existential threat tries to wipe out humanity". Either through the seeds we saw or a disease/virus causing red eyes.

Aesthetically it has quite a bit of crossover but also leaves out many locations that you would find in nier automata. There you will find city ruins, a desert, forests and an amusement park for example. Alliance raid gameplay also doesnt really lend itself for discovering things in the world which is a big part of nier automata.

Enemies are taken directly from nier automata for the most part, tower at paradigm's breach diverges a bit from that and references nier's origins in the drakengard games.

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Originally Posted by Rowde

the important part is to remember that Yoko Taro is either a genius, a madman, or a troll and he has no problem putting critical plot details in other forms of media that a person playing just one of the games may never know about

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Remember when he put a Nier:Automata ending in a japanese stage play that toured around for a bit? He is an amazing mix of all three, lmao.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Remember when he put a Nier:Automata ending in a japanese stage play that toured around for a bit? He is an amazing mix of all three, lmao.

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that's what i'm referring too yah
there's also a stage play that explores the red eye logic virus more and goes over what happened to A2 before Nier Automata begins

I think there are also some novels/light novels as well

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Originally Posted by Nestama

As for how it wound up on the First, a world that I'm not entirely sure is in the same "space/universe" as the Source, is anyone's guess.

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The same way Midgardsormr and Gilgamesh found their way to the Source out of anywhere in the multiverse. Narrative convenience.