As everyone is now aware the rewards for each tier only applies to the highest one you obtain, you do not get the lower rewards, so if you hit Crystal but like the other frames/titles you are out of luck.
This can potentially create problem situations:
1) Incentivizes players to NOT play Ranked at all.
For those that want a lower rank they could decide to just not play so they derank. And since you can't normally go below tiers you have to wait out the entire rank season to drop to the next lower one.
2) Incentivizes players to LOSE.
EDIT: Because the risers are 5 down it wouldn't matter where in the tier they were so this is technically moot in that regard. EDIT OVER/// They would however still get the Series progress/rewards, so while they could just play other modes for that or not at all they might want to do both. This would become especially true when SERIES 2 rolls around, where they might want to trade off wins and some losses since wins are technically faster Series progress, but win streaks would potentially rank them up a tier.
3) Less players participating.
If the above has any impact this could become true. While eventually even those aiming for each frame/title could have them all and maybe not have a reason to participate at all, the Trophy Crystals obtained could at least still keep them going after the fact as long as more items are continually added. But if there's any stagnation this would start to apply since those types of players could have bought everything available if the new item updates stop.
Because you cannot drop down tiers during progress it would make more sense to earn the rewards AS THEY HAPPEN.
Now with how it works any completionist who hit Crystal would take a very long time to do back down to Bronze just for the title/frame. While the number of people likely to do that is slim, it's not necessarily 0.
If it worked the other way, the Title/Achievement could be obtained immediately once you hit it, and the frame/trophy crystals could be awarded by speaking with the NPC after you get it.
This would also mean that even if a person holds off on claiming ALL the rewards, it at least wouldn't look ridiculous to see them earn multiple titles at once for the achievements, since that would happen naturally over time instead as they hit it as mentioned.
Yes this means people would get more Trophy Crystals but that is a PROPER incentive for actually trying to hit higher ranks, while instead you now have people wanting to do literally the opposite. This also solves the problem of someone who hits Crystal and gets every title/frame, because now all the extra Trophy Crystals ARE the reason for them to keep playing.
Please reconsider how Ranked rewards work
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07-06-2022, 01:14 PMzeth07Please reconsider how Ranked rewards work
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07-06-2022, 04:56 PMSigma860Aye. Guess I'm gonna be avoiding ranked so that I can derank all the way to bronze over the course of several seasons just to get all the rewards.:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by zeth07
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07-07-2022, 09:16 AMReimmi
I do question why you dont get bronze-silver onwards rewards as you reach the tiers, why wait til the end of the season when you can't derank anyway, encouraging people to not play to get all the previous rewards is really stupid
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07-07-2022, 11:37 AMGserpent
It's pretty obvious - they never really thought it through. I don't see how any rational person would otherwise fail to recognize how the current rewards system quite literally discourages players from returning and playing again next season if they want all the different plates.
It's kind of absurd to realize that, if I was wanting the Diamond plates, my best course of action would be to literally not play a single ranked game at all this entire season. I mean, this entire system is basically transplanted directly from Feast with only some minor alterations. Feast was basically dead after the first two or three weeks each season, and people actually pushed rank because they wanted all those sweet FOMO mounts and armor sets. That ain't the case here.
I wouldn't actually be surprised if they change this in 6.2 or later. I sincerely doubt we're the only ones leveraging this complaint. And like I said, any rational person is going to admit that any rewards system that literally discourages you from playing the game is an inherently broken one. -
07-07-2022, 01:59 PMRisvertasashi
TBH I thought this was how it would work from the start. I was very surprised that I didn't get lower tier rewards, and if I want them I have to... not play.
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07-07-2022, 06:38 PMWindfire
Wait, so I should hit bronze then stop or I won't get the bronze goodies?!:confused:
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07-07-2022, 08:50 PMSigma860Whatever rank you finish as at the end of the season, that's the reward you get. So you'd better stop on whatever portrait you want lol unless you have faith that this will get patched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Windfire
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07-08-2022, 01:52 AMInkB
I'm also slightly annoyed that I wouldnt get lower rank stuff. Mostly because the default backgrounds in portraits are really bad. I have almost 20 portraits currently and I personally am someone who tweaks stuff with colors so I would like to have different BGs like gold or such depending on glam colors. But platinums fine too for now. But I think diamonds green(???) would've been kinda terrible and un-used for me lmao.
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07-08-2022, 02:45 AMGordonGeeko
Yes, I'm part of the group of people not playing ranked to let myself de-rank so i can collect the different plates + end of season achievements.
As long as the rewards are just portrait frames i'm fine with not playing ranked and letting myself de-rank, but if the rewards become good (mounts), I'll have to grind Crystal and un-do my de-ranking.
I wish there was a way to reset your rank to 0 manually, but I think the only way is to World transfer and I don't wanna lose my house... -
07-08-2022, 03:15 AMCharlotte_Wells
As soon as they will add better exclusive rewards like mounts people will regret to derank on purpose
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07-08-2022, 03:39 AMNanne100% battlepass. I can't see the top 100 ever be something else but portrait with X as number :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlotte_Wells
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07-08-2022, 04:13 AMRisvertasashiNot really. Contrary to what the forums might have you believe with all the "It's totally my team mates holding me back I should be so much higher!" posts, if you climbed once you can do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlotte_Wells
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07-08-2022, 04:45 AMKhudusQestir
I personally think ranking would make more sense if we could build a team of 5 instead of queue solo with random people and gamble on whether you have a good team or not or if you're against a good team or not. About half the time, I don't feel like I'm really earning it or knowing if I got unlucky or not. If I got to build a team for difficult PvE content, why isn't it like that for PvP? Does square think we don't care about playing with our friends or that we'd cheat?
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07-08-2022, 04:49 AMCharlotte_WellsTry to consider the queue times too. Some lower tiers already have very long queuetimes, some even pop only during primetime. This is what it makes hard to catch up as others can already build up an huge advance. It's not even about skills it's about time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risvertasashi
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07-08-2022, 05:25 AMPsyticId rather not or many wouldnt play it. I like that its like League of Legends and you can solo queue. I think solo and duo is the max they should allow. Part of the fun is you can drop in pretty much when ever you want and play some ranked. You dont need to schedule and organize a team. You dont have a toxic environment where people deny you a team because you dont play a meta class etc. Many dont have time for that type of stuff due to work and chores. If that happens id go play league instead. If you are skilled you will naturally carry up to higher ranks. Its the way it is in League of Legends and thats a much more popular game than any MMO PVP.Quote:
Originally Posted by KhudusQestir
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07-08-2022, 05:47 AMKhudusQestirhttps://imageresizer.static9.net.au/...a-5a03f9e01566Quote:
Originally Posted by Psytic
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07-08-2022, 06:33 AMPsyticYou'd have people complaining about pre-mades and how they cant climb. if at least 3 people on the team are random then duos and singles have a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by KhudusQestir
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07-08-2022, 06:43 AMKhudusQestirBut if you had both. . . you can go to one that does solo queues if you prefer it and another for a rank for teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psytic
You're thinking of it being one thing where you can either queue solo or with someone that can cause different results. -
07-08-2022, 06:58 AMPsyticThat splits an already small population for pvp. Youd have a frontline queue, a rival wings queue, a casual CC queue, a ranked 5 person team cc queue and a solo/ duo ranked cc queue. Would get pretty thin on population imo. If this game had pvp numbers like Fortnite or something it wouldnt be such a bug deal but I wonder about it with how small the pvp pop is in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by KhudusQestir
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07-08-2022, 07:02 AMKhudusQestirand I think the population would increase if people could feel like they could play with their friends. Once I can no longer sync queue with my friend, I'm no longer touching CC. Why I'm making posts about it to try and fight it. I like this game, I like to PvP but I do not enjoy the PvP and would like to try and get my thoughts across to fix it. The PvP community is small because people are not enjoying it. They do the 'chore' to get an achievement and stop playing it. No one will touch it if no one enjoys it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psytic
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07-08-2022, 12:00 PMSamiMoshantuOh they better goddamn notQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlotte_Wells
The exclusive blink-and-it's-gone-forever rewards boil my blood.
Oh hey this cool mount? Well you suck now so no matter how good you get later it's gone forever oops!
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07-09-2022, 05:08 AMPetiteI suggest you work on your FOMO syndrome.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamiMoshantu
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07-09-2022, 11:47 AMSamiMoshantuI suggest SE makes PvP work in line with every other aspect of this game, where no matter how old the content gets, you can still go back and get the rewards. You might have to get good, but you can still get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petite
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07-11-2022, 05:38 AMTheTyrant
Wish I had resources at my work like Yoshi-P does to just waste on stuff no one is going to use.
Imagine making a reward structure that creates a disincentive to play. Then add on top of that the social structure that you can't premake with your friends has pretty much killed ranked CC. My friends didnt even play CC when it was released cause what little time that had to play, we spent it raiding or doing other group content. -
07-11-2022, 07:41 AMCanadaneThere are plenty of things you can no longer get outside of PvP related items.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamiMoshantu
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07-16-2022, 05:07 AMzeth07