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    zeth07's Avatar
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    Zeth Hiryu
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 100

    Please reconsider how Ranked rewards work

    As everyone is now aware the rewards for each tier only applies to the highest one you obtain, you do not get the lower rewards, so if you hit Crystal but like the other frames/titles you are out of luck.

    This can potentially create problem situations:

    1) Incentivizes players to NOT play Ranked at all.

    For those that want a lower rank they could decide to just not play so they derank. And since you can't normally go below tiers you have to wait out the entire rank season to drop to the next lower one.

    2) Incentivizes players to LOSE.

    EDIT: Because the risers are 5 down it wouldn't matter where in the tier they were so this is technically moot in that regard. EDIT OVER/// They would however still get the Series progress/rewards, so while they could just play other modes for that or not at all they might want to do both. This would become especially true when SERIES 2 rolls around, where they might want to trade off wins and some losses since wins are technically faster Series progress, but win streaks would potentially rank them up a tier.

    3) Less players participating.

    If the above has any impact this could become true. While eventually even those aiming for each frame/title could have them all and maybe not have a reason to participate at all, the Trophy Crystals obtained could at least still keep them going after the fact as long as more items are continually added. But if there's any stagnation this would start to apply since those types of players could have bought everything available if the new item updates stop.

    Because you cannot drop down tiers during progress it would make more sense to earn the rewards AS THEY HAPPEN.

    Now with how it works any completionist who hit Crystal would take a very long time to do back down to Bronze just for the title/frame. While the number of people likely to do that is slim, it's not necessarily 0.

    If it worked the other way, the Title/Achievement could be obtained immediately once you hit it, and the frame/trophy crystals could be awarded by speaking with the NPC after you get it.

    This would also mean that even if a person holds off on claiming ALL the rewards, it at least wouldn't look ridiculous to see them earn multiple titles at once for the achievements, since that would happen naturally over time instead as they hit it as mentioned.

    Yes this means people would get more Trophy Crystals but that is a PROPER incentive for actually trying to hit higher ranks, while instead you now have people wanting to do literally the opposite. This also solves the problem of someone who hits Crystal and gets every title/frame, because now all the extra Trophy Crystals ARE the reason for them to keep playing.
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    Last edited by zeth07; 07-06-2022 at 01:25 PM.

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    Sigma860's Avatar
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    Dangerous Days
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by zeth07 View Post
    As everyone is now aware the rewards for each tier only applies to the highest one you obtain, you do not get the lower rewards, so if you hit Crystal but like the other frames/titles you are out of luck.

    This can potentially create problem situations:

    1) Incentivizes players to NOT play Ranked at all.

    For those that want a lower rank they could decide to just not play so they derank. And since you can't normally go below tiers you have to wait out the entire rank season to drop to the next lower one.
    Aye. Guess I'm gonna be avoiding ranked so that I can derank all the way to bronze over the course of several seasons just to get all the rewards.
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    I do question why you dont get bronze-silver onwards rewards as you reach the tiers, why wait til the end of the season when you can't derank anyway, encouraging people to not play to get all the previous rewards is really stupid
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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Grinning Serpent
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    Maduin
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    It's pretty obvious - they never really thought it through. I don't see how any rational person would otherwise fail to recognize how the current rewards system quite literally discourages players from returning and playing again next season if they want all the different plates.

    It's kind of absurd to realize that, if I was wanting the Diamond plates, my best course of action would be to literally not play a single ranked game at all this entire season. I mean, this entire system is basically transplanted directly from Feast with only some minor alterations. Feast was basically dead after the first two or three weeks each season, and people actually pushed rank because they wanted all those sweet FOMO mounts and armor sets. That ain't the case here.

    I wouldn't actually be surprised if they change this in 6.2 or later. I sincerely doubt we're the only ones leveraging this complaint. And like I said, any rational person is going to admit that any rewards system that literally discourages you from playing the game is an inherently broken one.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    TBH I thought this was how it would work from the start. I was very surprised that I didn't get lower tier rewards, and if I want them I have to... not play.
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    Suri Obinata
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    Seraph
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Wait, so I should hit bronze then stop or I won't get the bronze goodies?!
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    Dangerous Days
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    Diabolos
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    Summoner Lv 56
    Quote Originally Posted by Windfire View Post
    Wait, so I should hit bronze then stop or I won't get the bronze goodies?!
    Whatever rank you finish as at the end of the season, that's the reward you get. So you'd better stop on whatever portrait you want lol unless you have faith that this will get patched.
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    Ink F'rahko
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    Omega
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    Sage Lv 90
    I'm also slightly annoyed that I wouldnt get lower rank stuff. Mostly because the default backgrounds in portraits are really bad. I have almost 20 portraits currently and I personally am someone who tweaks stuff with colors so I would like to have different BGs like gold or such depending on glam colors. But platinums fine too for now. But I think diamonds green(???) would've been kinda terrible and un-used for me lmao.

    But also I wouldnt have minded the Crystals <.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkB View Post
    So I ask:
    If CC is okay why wouldnt I be allowed to ask for E10 boss? Then I can just say "Just dont buy it lel" and "nah fam its ok, you are just using slippery slope. Its just 2 bosses bro its fine. It wont happen again. At least we arent WoW!"

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    Gordon Geeko
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    Faerie
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Yes, I'm part of the group of people not playing ranked to let myself de-rank so i can collect the different plates + end of season achievements.

    As long as the rewards are just portrait frames i'm fine with not playing ranked and letting myself de-rank, but if the rewards become good (mounts), I'll have to grind Crystal and un-do my de-ranking.

    I wish there was a way to reset your rank to 0 manually, but I think the only way is to World transfer and I don't wanna lose my house...
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    Charlotte Wells
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    Zodiark
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    As soon as they will add better exclusive rewards like mounts people will regret to derank on purpose
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