Can we please get a real map rotation?

This playing the same map for 1.5 hours rotation is complete garbage. Just randomize the map so its a different map every time we queue. I hardly ever see certain maps because they are on rotation during times I don't play.

Randomize it in casual matches. In ranked only allow The Palaistra and get rid of the other two.

Ya palaistra feels like the only decently thought out map of the 3 in terms of layout. Just the right amount of LoS and open space where as the other two are just extremes of each other of too much LoS(and a nightmare on the camera) and the other having too much open space with the added annoyance of element effects on both maps.

Or you know, adapt your playstyle depending on the map? Shows a certain level of skill

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Randomize it in casual matches. In ranked only allow The Palaistra and get rid of the other two.

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Or you know, adapt your playstyle depending on the map? Shows a certain level of skill

Well, I don't what it is about The Palaistra but my winrate there is virtually nonexistent, whereas The Volcanic Heart pretty much got me from Silver to Diamond.

I have to disagree. It's the most straightforward and boring map. The other 2 have features that can really mess with people and are much more fun to play with. Furthermore open maps greatly favour ranged jobs, so the only map good for melees is the bomb one.

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Originally Posted by Dimitrii

Randomize it in casual matches. In ranked only allow The Palaistra and get rid of the other two.

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That's dumb. All three maps are good and the environmental effects are incredibly important to play around.

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Originally Posted by Hanri

Or you know, adapt your playstyle depending on the map? Shows a certain level of skill

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My highest winrate is on the volcano map. Doesn't change the fact that its a garbage map. It also doesn't change the fact that the current map rotation design is absolutely awful. Playing the same map on repeat for 1.5 hours is not enjoyable.

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Originally Posted by Gserpent

That's dumb. All three maps are good and the environmental effects are incredibly important to play around.

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They don't add anything other than an arbitrary force of using guard.

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Originally Posted by Ransu

My highest winrate is on the volcano map. Doesn't change the fact that its a garbage map. It also doesn't change the fact that the current map rotation design is absolutely awful. Playing the same map on repeat for 1.5 hours is not enjoyable.



They don't add anything other than an arbitrary force of using guard.

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Different layouts as well as the environmental effects. Blackfeather Boost is *massive*, it's 25% more limit gauge. Making effective use of it is key to winning Cloud Nine, which also means denying them to the enemy. Meteodrive and Primal Scream gain more effectiveness on both environmental maps because of their ability to break Guard. Sometimes it's better to hold them for an upcoming environmental effect than to use them right away. Volcano map has bombs leave behind stacking 10% damage up buffs, maintaining and collecting these buffs is key to winning. Cloud Nine has a very open mid that makes it difficult to approach for certain teams, volcano has a mid with lots of pillars that makes it difficult for some ranged classes to maximize DPS.

They're good maps, and there's a lot more to them than just "lmao use guard here."

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Different layouts as well as the environmental effects. Blackfeather Boost is *massive*, it's 25% more limit gauge. Making effective use of it is key to winning Cloud Nine, which also means denying them to the enemy. Meteodrive and Primal Scream gain more effectiveness on both environmental maps because of their ability to break Guard. Sometimes it's better to hold them for an upcoming environmental effect than to use them right away. Volcano map has bombs leave behind stacking 10% damage up buffs, maintaining and collecting these buffs is key to winning. Cloud Nine has a very open mid that makes it difficult to approach for certain teams, volcano has a mid with lots of pillars that makes it difficult for some ranged classes to maximize DPS.

They're good maps, and there's a lot more to them than just "lmao use guard here."

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Completely agree. That guy is probably just bad and has skill issues

It's a weird choice for sure, I guess they tried to give an option to perma opt out of certain maps.
Guess they already knew that their map are this shit lmao

I like the fixed rotation so I know which job I want to queue with. Maybe the map change timer could go from 1h30m to 1hr though.

All I want them to do is fix some issues:

-Remove the stair ramps from Volcanic Heart. They often snag your character because there's a small gap between their collision box and the pillars'.

-Make the Black Feather radius bigger on Cloud Nine. Right now, if you're not well centered in the chocobo AOE, you might miss it.

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Originally Posted by Hanri

Completely agree. That guy is probably just bad and has skill issues

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And yet the majority of my win streaks come from the volcano map.

Disliking a map doesn't equate to being bad. Volcano map is actually easy to win on due to how constrained it is with all its forced choke points. Doesn't change the fact that the bomberman crap is annoying and the collision positions for the camera is an absolute nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Petite

-Make the Black Feather radius bigger on Cloud Nine. Right now, if you're not well centered in the chocobo AOE, you might miss it.

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You can be centered perfectly and still go through it without picking it due to server ticks :p I have seen 3 people contest it and none of them get it sometimes with how badly the servers can affect it

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Originally Posted by Petite

I like the fixed rotation so I know which job I want to queue with. Maybe the map change timer could go from 1h30m to 1hr though.

All I want them to do is fix some issues:

-Remove the stair ramps from Volcanic Heart. They often snag your character because there's a small gap between their collision box and the pillars'.

-Make the Black Feather radius bigger on Cloud Nine. Right now, if you're not well centered in the chocobo AOE, you might miss it.

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A consistent way to steal the feather would also be pretty cool. Right now, it seems to be just simply whoever was in the circle first (and on the feather) wins... and sometimes with how slow the servers are at processing movement updates (which is why you have to stutter step on top of potions to pick them up instead of just running right through them), who wins might not be who "actually" entered the circle first.

You can't randomize pvp maps. That technology is beyond the knowledge of mankind.