Not even sure why this would be controversial and isn't in the game already but there should be an option to strip everyone of glamours on your clients side, hear me out. I played since ARR, life was good, yeah everyone wore the same darklight armour but that told you a lot and it actually felt like an mmo and it actually felt like a game and not glorified sims 3 with naughty mods installed, not everyone wants to see your characters b***s or b*ttocks or some other abomination, how can you say that it's ok to force people to see your ridiculous unfunny immature outfits that are an eyesore or casual outfits that completely ruins my experience, what about my experience? Why should they have the power to make such a ridiculous and sexually explicit outfit and I have no option to not see it? "Just don't hang around in such places" how does that solve anything when they're literally in dungeons, trials and raids, every bit of content there is always someone wearing something inappropriate, if I wanted skyrim with mods I would play skyrim with mods.
Kaynide Said it best
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06-12-2022, 12:56 AMUltimaDragoNo glamours option
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06-12-2022, 12:59 AMDeverynYou can't actually see any of that modded stuff in game.Quote:
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06-12-2022, 01:06 AMSeiyaSoiya
this should be a standard for every single online game out there, an option to disable all cosmetics
I don't understand why that's not an option legally enforced
I don't want to see catboys in marketboard glams dyed in metallic purple
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06-12-2022, 01:08 AMSenorPattyIt definitely tells me the game looked hella boring at some point and thank YoshiP for allowing to expand beyond what an mmo is supposed to look like or to be.Quote:
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Now, while I'm a fan of qol toggles, what is the no glam option is supposed to look like? Just on long grey robe? AF armor? Smallclothes? Instead of just complaining, how about you go further into what you actually want to see? -
06-12-2022, 01:16 AMangienessyo
On the topic of darklight armor telling you about a player, what about us players that are using our UWU/UCOB/TEA weapons or old savage gear as glam? That's a way people use glam to show you their achievements. I see my share of glams I don't care for but I just don't look at the character if I don't want to see it, not really hard. I mean, unless someone's in a chicken suit or something I never even know what other people in my group are wearing because I'm always zoomed out. I'm not sure how glamour makes the game feel less like an MMO when WoW has had transmog since what, WotLK or Cataclysm? And correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Everquest 2 and Elder Scrolls Online also have their own glamour type systems? Sounds like an MMO feature to me.
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06-12-2022, 01:24 AMLustre
There's ultimately only so many times you can see a lalafell in a frog suit before it stops being funny and starts being annoying. So I know exactly what you mean OP, and if it was up to me, game systems would lean in favour of immersion, but considering we have bikini tanks and healers in plate armor, elephant suits, frog suits and modern day casual wear, that battle has already been lost, so in my eyes it's a bit of a waste of time to complain in all honesty. This community rehashes the same tired "funny" and "sexy" outfits constantly and I dont expect it to change anytime soon. Let's be real as well, all you ever see are those disgusting metallic dyed outfits, looking like the person just stepped out of a neon factory in the 80s.
Most times I'm stood in a city, wearing armour, or whatever I think fits the jobs identity, and I'm surrounded by ERP predators, frogs, skimpily clothed catgirls(men) etc. People are free to make their choices. I'm also free to judge them for it. Such is the way of the world :) -
06-12-2022, 01:24 AMUltimaDragoQuote:
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06-12-2022, 01:46 AMValkyrie_LennethSo... You'd see an ugly mishmash of random pieces... And also still the pieces you don't want to see because people would just wear that in town instead of having it glamoured lolQuote:
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06-12-2022, 02:00 AMUltimaDragoYes and whats your point?Quote:
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06-12-2022, 02:00 AMAntonio_Xul
I remember before glamour was a thing, I use to wear outfits I liked instead of my best gear when not doing dungeons and stuff. When doing dungeons, I would change to my good gear, but once I’m out, back to my outfit I liked. This is probably what would happen out of spite of the complainers of people’s gear. They’d just actually wear the bikini or frog suit just to troll you.
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06-12-2022, 02:01 AMSenorPattyBecause those are the questions YoshiP would actually ask. In case it's gone over your head, the more broad the requests, the more vague he feels they are. If I had dime every time I caught him saying "I don't understand", I'd have enough money to cover 3 years worth of subscription.Quote:
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06-12-2022, 02:20 AMkaynide
It’s not a bad idea, but unlike many other older MMOs, what people wear doesn’t really tell you a whole lot.
Back in FFXI, you could have 2 or more complete outfits that you would swap out mid fight to maximize damage/attack speed etc. so, seeing a player wearing a particular hat or pants told us a lot. Basically, mmos with horizontal progression allowed us to see gear and see what kind of build the player was going for.
Here, not so much. Even so I wouldn’t mind a super generic..like everyone wears their job AF, or as you suggested just the actual gear they are wearing. -
06-12-2022, 02:25 AMUltimaDragoI like the AF suggestion, a lot.Quote:
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06-12-2022, 02:30 AMAzuri
Man, I really hate those other players around me in my MMO. Should we also have a "no names" option? Replacing them with something neutral. Say... "Eager Scholar". Or "Eager Paladin". And so on.
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06-12-2022, 02:36 AMEnkidohI actually still do this, as I'm too lazy to use glamour plates (that and I find the plates too restrictive with their "replace all appearences at once" where as I like to mix and match), so I often switch into glamour gear as gear rather than glamour when RPing or whatever.Quote:
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06-12-2022, 03:26 AMGrizzlyTank
Remember this is what Peak Performance looks like.
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06-12-2022, 04:04 AMKolsykol
It's really not that hard to just ignore and not think about what other players are doing etc.
I legit don't understand why people get so hung up on this, it almost seems like people get upset about it on purpose just because they want to enforce their views and never see anything they might dislike.
It's just '' Karen '' behaviour.
It's kind of a immature and self-centered mindset imo, why would you be entitled to have these options catered to you specifically?
As soon as we open up this door of '' I don't like it, therefore we need an option to hide it '' you enter a realm of absurdity where people can want for these options left and right with so much else.
And ofc this all ends up being about sexualized costumes, this is just really a personal issue on your end that quite frankly you kinda need to get over and grow up a little about.
If you go outside or enter any space where other people are around you're gonna have to deal with not approving of everything people do.
It's hard to sympathize with you when you're being so derogatory and loaded about how you talk about it too.
Why do you need an option because of your personal views on this, what if I don't like edge lord characters and I have to see DRK's run around in their artifact gear should I not get an option to hide that too?
Or what about people who think that Lalafells are creepy, should they not get an option to turn them into another race too then?
Same with people who are upset about Miqo'te etc?
People also glam themselves to express their character, it's their character and they get to choose how they do that and people do it because they want their character to exist that way in the world it's how they choose to present themselves same with race choices and anything else.
I don't think that just because you might not like it that you should get to enforce how they appear in the world even if it's optional tbh.
Why are you entitled to this but not others?
If you're implying here that women don't glam their characters this way too then you probably need to touch some grass and stop projecting your views about this unto other people.Quote:
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I see quite a lot of men talking on behalf of women about this.
I fail to see how any of this is any more or less rehashed than the same identical artifact armor PLD or DRK with the Heavensward relic weapon or the Eureka Elemental armor or Genji/ Oni PvP SAM cosplay.
I actually forgot about what it was like without glam/ transmog until I played WoW Classic and then I remember how important it is lol.Quote:
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06-12-2022, 05:23 AMTaleraRistainGlam used to be unlocked only at 50 XD So we all looked pretty hobo up to that pointQuote:
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To the OP, back when I played EverQuest we could just dye our armor. And our tanks (usually ogres and trolls) would dye themselves rainbow so they could be seen easily in raids. So I'm very unbothered by anything anyone uses in this game. Seeing a rainbow colored ogre tends to do that to someone.
I normally support options but I'm torn on this one. There are people who will intentionally wear something they know will appear naughty with mods, but someone is only affected by that if they use the mod. It's a normal item to anyone else. Glam is a way that people express themselves and using it is baked into the game. We know in character everyone is wearing their armor and we're just putting a different look over that. It's also a way people display their achievements. And sometimes we have to be confronted with things we don't care for. I hate the ShB and Ixion mounts. They're ugly and I would prefer not to see them. But I don't get to call the shots on what mounts someone else uses. I'm not even going to get into development resource questions and risk versus reward. I can understand the argument for immersion, but I counter that glam is part of the immersion so I'd say I'm in the camp that doesn't really see where this is necessary and actively removes an element of the world. -
06-12-2022, 06:07 AMAscended_Demon
I want to give OP the benefit of the doubt on this but like, this "suggestion" just makes me think of the gremlins in the Lakeland fate that scream things like, "Your face! It's breaking my immersion!" and "Your fashion sense is bad and you should feel bad!" Like even if you're being 100% serious it just gives me pearl-clutcher vibes. You can't control what people wear no matter where you are and honestly I think it's more a thing you gotta work on if it truly bothers you that much. Like yeah I get mildly annoyed when I see an outfit that I don't want to see but I'm able to just sigh and move on.