Cannot Enter Lottery for Relocation

After months of preparation, weeks waiting for the lottery system to be fixed, and then another set of weeks for the new lottery to be implemented, I finally went to try and get our FC plot relocated to Shirogane.

Only to find out.

I CAN'T enter the lottery to relocate our plot because my character on the Aether Data center owns a personal home AND the FC Plot location.

This entire system has not made it fair for people to get housing, it's blocked people from trying to move locations and there are more FC plots than personal plots. My personal plot is in an FC ward and if I have to give it up to get the FC house I'm pretty PO'd.

I spent the time grinding out the gil for the transfer, with friends and fc members helping and we can't even relocate?

Do I have to give the gil to another member of the FC to do so??

This is kind of a crock.

[Edit] Thanks to the helpful words from Solarra the issue and crisis was averted, but I was unaware I had to flip to my alt that owned a personal house in order to bid for the FC plot relocation. I did not participate in the first lottery, at all, because I specifically wanted to try and move into Shirogane wards.

Are you only just now noticing this?

I have the same issue. I thought this was supposed to be fixed.
I am within the rules, I have one personal and one FC house on my account (we are trying to relocate the FC house). The owner of the personal house can place a bid for the new FC plot but my alts are all locked out from the bidding.

I don't know what to do. I would be prepared to drop the personal house if necessary, but I'd be scared to do so without confirmation that it would actually solve the issue.

So the owner of the personal house can purchase or enter the lottery but alts can't? Thank you for your input Solarra, Maybe that will work for me to try and bid in the lottery. I didn't participate in the first one so I had no idea how that was set up.

Yeah I didnt participate on the first round either. But this time around I did. I just thought that because I am not a master on my main account, I could help my main account's FC. But... I cant. Because my alt has an FC.

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Originally Posted by Eclair_Xysha

Yeah I didnt participate on the first round either. But this time around I did. I just thought that because I am not a master on my main account, I could help my main account's FC. But... I cant. Because my alt has an FC.

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Yeah this was not at all dictated when they mentioned the removal of immediate relocation. They said they were still going to have relocation but they didn't explain how the hell it works on the lottery system especially for people that have personal and FC houses. I'm glad Solarra mentioned that the plot owner is able to get the house/fc bid. I was having a small heart attack thinking all that work went to waste.

This is not new news and has been known since they put information out on the lottery bids. You can only enter one lottery bid. So if you put a bid on a personal house, that's it. You cannot bid on another, including one for an FC house, until the next cycle. So, we are forced to pick one or the other.

I'm not saying I agree with it, just saying that's been the implementation of the system since it began and nothing there was to be "fixed".

You didn't pay attention at all to what was being said.
I was trying to bid on an FC plot to transfer/relocate our FC. It wouldn't allow me to do so on the character I was on, Solarra pointed out the only ones that can do the bids for relocation are the characters that have the personal housing. Said character is an alt in the FC I own, so I was able to flip to her and bid on the location we are trying to re-locate into.

What was said is that all alts on the account that are on the same world-server are not permitted to bid on anything if you have a personal house on any other character on that same world. I am not bidding for a personal house and FC, I was trying to *relocate* our FC plot.

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Originally Posted by Greyhawk

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I think you misunderstood. I am not trying to bid on two properties.

One of my characters has had a personal house on Cerberus for a couple of years. My Main is FC leader and the FC would like to relocate. The issue is that only the owner of the personal house can put in a bid. I have enough gil to put in more bids on my alts but the game will not let me place them.

That was why I said i would be prepared to relinquish the personal if I was sure that would enable my alts to place bids (although I'd probably be very lucky to get another personal, so I don't really want to go to that extreme as I'd have a good chance of ending up with nothing).

Edit: And just to clarify, I do have friends in the FC, it's not just a 'shell' FC for my alts. Trouble is, not all my friends are active right now.

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Originally Posted by Solarra

*same thing I said XD*.

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I think Solarra if you have people in your FC that you trust with the gil you can have them bid on the plot for the FC for you? Since we're limited to only being able to do the bid on one character.

Is this the error?

"Lottery entry and plot purchase unavailable. No more land may be purchased on this world by characters attached to this service account."

Because i'm having the same issue, all i want to do is relocate, it's only one of my characters though, i logged onto an alt on the same world that owns an FC, works perfect, but just this one character i have that can't bid on a relocation, not even a property purchase, i feel like there is bugged flagging of sorts but not many have come out and asked "why am i getting this error"

It's not an error. If you have any other alt on the same home world as your FC character, you *cannot* bid in the lottery on any character *but* the alt you own a personal house on.

And that character must be in the FC your other character owns. And they have to have been in the FC for 30 days.

If you have an FC plot on 1 character and a personal plot on another, I don't know if you can bid at all :/

I don't own a personal house and none of my alts have purchased an FC house from the placard.

Cannot enter lottery to relocate the FC house:

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Lottery entry and plot purchase unavailable. No more land may be purchased on this world by characters attached to this service account.

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https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

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You do not have a character on the same World on the same service account that purchased and maintains a free company plot
* If the character in question purchased the plot, they may still submit a lottery entry for the purposes of relocation.

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Yet i did... lol i bid on a personal for relo, bid on an 2 alts that have own an FC for relo, but can't bid with the 3rd character for relo, bare in mind that i tried the 3rd character first, unless i'm totally missunderstanding what you're saying, but it seems like it's just not liking this character bidding, it even states that "* If the character in question purchased the plot, they may still submit a lottery entry for the purposes of relocation." on the SE land purchase post, so i dunno

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Originally Posted by IvoryHawk

Yet i did... lol i bid on a personal for relo, bid on an 2 alts that have own an FC for relo, but can't bid with the 3rd character for relo, bare in mind that i tried the 3rd character first, unless i'm totally missunderstanding what you're saying, but it seems like it's just not liking this character bidding, it even states that "* If the character in question purchased the plot, they may still submit a lottery entry for the purposes of relocation." on the SE land purchase post, so i dunno

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You can only have a maximum of 2 plots. 1 FC and 1 personal as well as an apartment in any ward. If you are in an FC that has land and have an alt who is not in said FC who owns a home, *you* cannot bid for an FC plot or personal house unless the character you're trying to bid with is both A) in the FC and B) owns the personal house.

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Originally Posted by TwistedTea

I don't own a personal house and none of my alts have purchased an FC house from the placard.
Cannot enter lottery to relocate the FC house:
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

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They need to clarify the guidelines on how you're flagged as owning a house when you don't own one. Do you have multiple alts in the same FC? If so, you probably can only bid on the character that created the FC if that's the case.

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Originally Posted by Lachesia

You can only have a maximum of 2 plots. 1 FC and 1 personal as well as an apartment in any ward. If you are in an FC that has land and have an alt who is not in said FC who owns a home, *you* cannot bid for an FC plot or personal house unless the character you're trying to bid with is both A) in the FC and B) owns the personal house.

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This makes literally zero sense, because like i said, i have 3 FC plots and 1 personal plot, i've relocated 2 FC plots and 1 personal plot, the 3rd FC plot i cannot relocate, none of what you said relates to my situation so i assume there is something else outside of the scope of the rules that won't allow for relocation

There's nothing outside the scope. You probably had grandfathered plots if you had more than 1 FC plot location. New rules were implemented to make it so that you can only have 1 FC plot and 1 personal house for your entire (account) on any world server. Now if the FCs are owned by others, they can likely bid to move the plot. But you personally are limited to 1 FC and one personal plot owned.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

This is direct from the dev's play guide itself:
In wards designated first come, first served, an available plot of land can be immediately purchased by accessing the placard at its entrance. See purchase requirements.
* Players may only purchase one private and one free company plot per World on any given service account.

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Originally Posted by Lachesia

There's nothing outside the scope. You probably had grandfathered plots if you had more than 1 FC plot location. New rules were implemented to make it so that you can only have 1 FC plot and 1 personal house for your entire (account) on any world server. Now if the FCs are owned by others, they can likely bid to move the plot. But you personally are limited to 1 FC and one personal plot owned.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

This is direct from the dev's play guide itself:
In wards designated first come, first served, an available plot of land can be immediately purchased by accessing the placard at its entrance. See purchase requirements.
* Players may only purchase one private and one free company plot per World on any given service account.

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Strange then, since multiple other friends of mine have bid for relocation on 5+ of their characters FC's, but again, it's only the one character of mine, the rest are fine, that's what doesn't make sense, if that was the case then i'd have that error across all, even demoted the character and still can't bid, doesn't matter i guess, have bids in, i'm just not the only one with the issue currently

I'm not very happy that there seem to be hidden rules operating here. If we'd have known how many bids we could place, we'd have gone for a large instead of trying for a medium in a nice location. The FC made that decision on the understanding that we could place more bids and would therefore have a better chance.

I am hoping this is a bug and not working as intended. Either way, it would be nice to have some answers.

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Originally Posted by Solarra

I'm not very happy that there seem to be hidden rules operating here. If we'd have known how many bids we could place, we'd have gone for a large instead of trying for a medium in a nice location. The FC made that decision on the understanding that we could place more bids and would therefore have a better chance.

I am hoping this is a bug and not working as intended. Either way, it would be nice to have some answers.

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There is definitely something else going on, because if i wasn't allowed to bid on one, i shouldn't be allowed for any, and i checked the one character i had that issue on first and after bidding with the other characters, so there is most likely some anomaly with selected characters, because if Lachesia said was true, i wouldn't have friends relocating 5+ FC's and their personals in one go

I was only able to bid on one of my characters in my FC. Such character is the one that
1)Founded the FC
2)Purchased the very first plot

And yes, we are trying to relocate.

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Originally Posted by Lachesia

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/

This is direct from the dev's play guide itself:
In wards designated first come, first served, an available plot of land can be immediately purchased by accessing the placard at its entrance. See purchase requirements.
* Players may only purchase one private and one free company plot per World on any given service account.

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Well if thats the case, I would like to hope its a bug. If it isnt, I would appreciate they would fix the description a bit.

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Originally Posted by IvoryHawk

This makes literally zero sense, because like i said, i have 3 FC plots and 1 personal plot, i've relocated 2 FC plots and 1 personal plot, the 3rd FC plot i cannot relocate, none of what you said relates to my situation so i assume there is something else outside of the scope of the rules that won't allow for relocation

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The lotto system acts as a great equalizer for between the grandfathered-long-game home owners and newer buyers. It acts as a double check for "2 houses per world, per account." The first is the lotto entry and the second is the purchase phase. Both will block a character with too many houses. This ensures that anyone who was "grandfathered in" (owns more than two plots on one world) can no longer relocate one of their "extra" plots to upgrade them or buy a new one without getting in line with everyone else. This levels the playing field and makes the system work as the developers intended post 3.0.

It makes perfect sense.

I'm having the same issue. I could only place one bid on one character to relocate my FC's plot from a small to a medium, but one of my other members (who has a personal on their main) could bid on two characters. At least I'm lucky enough to have two other friends playing the game I could trust to bid in my place. :(

There's like, no official statement from the team either. What is going on

I'm curious where the relocation screen is at. I have a personal on Mateus and am thinking about relocating to a FC ward if i can get the same house location which i like a lot. The reason primarily is my other alt cannot use the private which is really frustrating.

Clicking the screen only seems to allow an entry for the lottery. For those who have relocated can you shed some light on how it works?

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

I'm curious where the relocation screen is at. I have a personal on Mateus and am thinking about relocating to a FC ward if i can get the same house location which i like a lot. The reason primarily is my other alt cannot use the private which is really frustrating.

Clicking the screen only seems to allow an entry for the lottery. For those who have relocated can you shed some light on how it works?

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You get the option to relocate once you win the lottery (not beforehand). In case you have a personal you want to relocate you are stuck for the personal wards even for relocating. Good luck for your entries on those wards.

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Originally Posted by Yodada

You get the option to relocate once you win the lottery (not beforehand). In case you have a personal you want to relocate you are stuck for the personal wards even for relocating. Good luck for your entries on those wards.

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Ahh so you can't relocate a personal into a FC ward interesting even if you have a FC without a house. Oh well guess my alt will have to live with not having direct access.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Ahh so you can't relocate a personal into a FC ward interesting even if you have a FC without a house. Oh well guess my alt will have to live with not having direct access.

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Right. If you have a FC that needs a home, simply do the lotto for your FC in wards 1-18.

*edit- If you have other people in your FC, they can add your alt to the FC, allowing you access to everything. :)

Same issue here
Hoping for the fix in the future
I bought a small plot just keeping in mind that I can relocate it to the big plot in the future
And now only the character that actually won lottery for the small plot is able to enter lottery for relocation to the big
That's a disappointmaint for real
But I understand that maybe it's right in some way but again I could enter the lottery with all my alts before when I didn't own a plot
I can try my luck anyway or wait for new residential districts it's not a big deal everyone wants a big mansion :) but u know I wouldn't buy a small plot without knowing that I can relocate it and it wasn't clear that it seems like system doesn't allow alts to enter lottery for relocation

I have the exact same problem (can not enter lottery to relocate FC House to bigger plot, no relocate option, getting the message that I can not own anymore property).

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Originally Posted by Juniper17

I have the exact same problem (can not enter lottery to relocate FC House to bigger plot, no relocate option, getting the message that I can not own anymore property).

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You have to be the owner of the FC plot to put a bid if you own a personal plot. This also applies to any alts in the same world/FC as well sadly.

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Originally Posted by Juniper17

I have the exact same problem (can not enter lottery to relocate FC House to bigger plot, no relocate option, getting the message that I can not own anymore property).

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Ownership of a FC house (for lottery purposes) is tied to the purchaser, not the FC master.

You must have another character on your account on the same world that has purchased a FC house for the FC they are in.

If the alt is in the same FC as the character unable to enter, you can only use that alt to enter the lottery.

If the alt is in a different FC, the alt would need to leave that FC so your other character can enter the lottery. They can rejoin the FC after the lottery has ended and the other FC house has been relocated (if you win).

Thank you, your solution worked. I would never have thought of the fact it had to be the same character for the lottery than the one who originaly bought the plot. I thought ownership of FC house was tied to FC (and FC master).

And I managed to enter this lottery on time so really thank you for all your help.

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Originally Posted by Juniper17

And I managed to enter this lottery on time so really thank you for all your help.

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Good luck! I hope you win.