Please list the most fantastic strategies you have seen!

I love watching everyone charging one by one straight into the other team at the start before the crystal is even released.
It shows a proper understanding of the Way of Insanity!

Another favorite is never using the potions because only enemies should be allowed to have them.
We have to be nice even to people sinking the knives in!

I guess the classic letting a single enemy push to the end is suitable, too, for variety.
It is hard to see the giant blue objective!

Oh man that list is long. My favorite:

Link a S so that most fools rush to that place despite another raid is about to win.

Pushing all the way the enemy respawn so they can wipe us in overtime is fun too!
The absolute best is when you are forced to stack on crystal for one of those wonderful super aoe infinite win moves the other team has, that your team does not!

Being forced to play with those you just utterly crushed in a previous game is nice, also!
Bonus points when this happens during a streak to end it!

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Originally Posted by Xel

Pushing all the way the enemy respawn so they can wipe us in overtime is fun too!
The absolute best is when you are forced to stack on crystal for one of those wonderful super aoe infinite win moves the other team has, that your team does not!

Being forced to play with those you just utterly crushed in a previous game is nice, also!
Bonus points when this happens during a streak to end it!

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That last one *hurts.*

Entire team popping LB's and then pushing the crystal all the way to the other side of the map and win because it takes 10 years to respawn and LB's are pure no skill cheese.

Three to five people chasing the enemy healer across the map while the other four enemies push the crystal to the finish.

Losing because your team has no one with a 'push' skill while the other team does in Overtime really burns.
I know we can't all have 3 dps/1 tank/1 heal but please don't tell me this isn't viable.

Using scattergun to push opposing team off the crystal to get victory.

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Originally Posted by Chiyeko

Using scattergun to push opposing team off the crystal to get victory.

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It looks even more impressive during Frontline when you knock off alot of People over the edge into their Death, like on the Shatter Map.

Do that all the time when ppl on bridge or near a cliff in shatter and field of glory.

Always makes me super sad when it happens to be so close to win and then, swoosh, knocked out and 1s later lost.

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Originally Posted by Xel

Always makes me super sad when it happens to be so close to win and then, swoosh, knocked out and 1s later lost.

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I have never seen a win flipped to a loss in 1s, or even 5s, and I'm 250+ deep into ranked. I have seen a win flipped to a loss in about 30 seconds, but thats enough time for everybody to die and respawn. I think the problem with people thinking they were winning, then lost in a second is a lack of understanding of the overtime rules. the other team made it 95% of the way to their base in the first minute, then we turned it and ran all the way to 60% and never let it go back past 40%. The OT rules are STILL 3 seconds off the crystal for the team NOT at 95%, and they lose. That is the only time I have seen it swing quickly.

One thing I will say is I wish when it starts OT, there was an indication of which rule set you are following. I have had games were it was 49% to 51% and I go "ok, it's tie rules" and it's actually 51% needs to keep them off for 3 seconds, then I have had games where it was 30-40% and I go "ok, the 40% team has to keep them off for 3 seconds, and it turns out, it was a tie rule where the first team to advance to 41% wins. They need to do a better job identifying which rule set we are following. When the overtime message pops up, it needs to tell us what the objective is. "Keep enemy team off crystal for 3s to win!", "Push further then the enemy team has to win!". Literally those two messages would fix everything with this situation.

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Originally Posted by Xel

Being forced to play with those you just utterly crushed in a previous game is nice, also!
Bonus points when this happens during a streak to end it!

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Karma system working as intended.

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Originally Posted by Xel

Losing because your team has no one with a 'push' skill while the other team does in Overtime really burns.
I know we can't all have 3 dps/1 tank/1 heal but please don't tell me this isn't viable.

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I don't think you even need a tank. Optimal group composition is probably "at least one healer, and no more than two total of any combination of tanks and healers." SGE excluded, healers generally lack sustained DPS worth a crap so having more than two really hurts your ability to secure kills. Tanks don't actually have much in the way of support skills anymore (pretty much it's just TBN and Guardian/Phalanx), so you actually kind of *do* need a healer if the enemy team has one since they're the classes with all the defensive buffs and bits of sustain.

I don't think we even really need role-sensitive queues. What we need, instead, is the ability to fucking change classes during match setup and some quickchat commands like "We need a healer please!" etc. I honestly don't understand why we can't change classes during match setup, especially since there's no role-queuing for the mode. It would solve so many issues. Oh, I got a team with 2 other healers? No problem, I'll swap to NIN or MNK. I guess maybe it's because they limit teams to only one of each class?

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Originally Posted by Gserpent

I don't think you even need a tank. Optimal group composition is probably "at least one healer, and no more than two total of any combination of tanks and healers." SGE excluded, healers generally lack sustained DPS worth a crap so having more than two really hurts your ability to secure kills. Tanks don't actually have much in the way of support skills anymore (pretty much it's just TBN and Guardian/Phalanx), so you actually kind of *do* need a healer if the enemy team has one since they're the classes with all the defensive buffs and bits of sustain.

I don't think we even really need role-sensitive queues. What we need, instead, is the ability to fucking change classes during match setup and some quickchat commands like "We need a healer please!" etc. I honestly don't understand why we can't change classes during match setup, especially since there's no role-queuing for the mode. It would solve so many issues. Oh, I got a team with 2 other healers? No problem, I'll swap to NIN or MNK. I guess maybe it's because they limit teams to only one of each class?

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WAR being a great support tank aside - the godmode on DK and PLD offer a noob security - it's not that they're so much of a damage threat but you can literally wipe their whole team and they just afk the crystal with bubble, godmode, def cds and heal and the whole team will be up again before you take them down. They're just really fucking boring to play against in their current design, DK more than PLD because they're also threating the crystal range with it.

Also to combat role queue they introduced a "everybody has everything" kit, unfortunately to make people not feel alienated from their job they made some job mixbreeds such as healers but they balanced all shit for the global set. If you now have 2 healers and a job that increases healing it's almost impossible to kill somebody without full arranged focus and that just doesn't fucking work in a random queue.

So every second game feels like praying to god that your team accidentally focus the correct target and finally when you do the tank just pops all his shit and the respawn is back. It's so unbearable, they should have just made every class damage if they're so lazy to take properly care of comps.

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Originally Posted by Espon

Three to five people chasing the enemy healer across the map while the other four enemies push the crystal to the finish.

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This is a classic.

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Originally Posted by drtasteyummy

WAR being a great support tank aside - the godmode on DK and PLD offer a noob security - it's not that they're so much of a damage threat but you can literally wipe their whole team and they just afk the crystal with bubble, godmode, def cds and heal and the whole team will be up again before you take them down. They're just really fucking boring to play against in their current design, DK more than PLD because they're also threating the crystal range with it.

Also to combat role queue they introduced a "everybody has everything" kit, unfortunately to make people not feel alienated from their job they made some job mixbreeds such as healers but they balanced all shit for the global set. If you now have 2 healers and a job that increases healing it's almost impossible to kill somebody without full arranged focus and that just doesn't fucking work in a random queue.

So every second game feels like praying to god that your team accidentally focus the correct target and finally when you do the tank just pops all his shit and the respawn is back. It's so unbearable, they should have just made every class damage if they're so lazy to take properly care of comps.

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Yeah, pretty much. The flipside is that you have tons of sustain but no damage so it takes forever to kill anything - in both cases you need people to actually coordinate and focus the targets being called out, but no one seems to do that... Apparently "target the one without any MP left" is a difficult concept to grasp.

I think the cookest thing ive done is when the drg and smn have their lbs up and i know its coming down and we are the crystal a mesotes just cancels out the damage, and im like... we just avoided about 40k in dmg with just me... nuts

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Originally Posted by ValKryz

I think the cookest thing ive done is when the drg and smn have their lbs up and i know its coming down and we are the crystal a mesotes just cancels out the damage, and im like... we just avoided about 40k in dmg with just me... nuts

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It's funny watching them do AOE LBs into a setup Seraph and the entire team just kind of shrugs when the DRG lands on everyone. "That's nice, are you done now?"

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Originally Posted by ValKryz

I think the cookest thing ive done is when the drg and smn have their lbs up and i know its coming down and we are the crystal a mesotes just cancels out the damage, and im like... we just avoided about 40k in dmg with just me... nuts

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Working as intended it seems to me. It's neat to watch it happen, but they can see our LB meters the same as we can see theirs.

Spamming "push the crystal!" when it's 2v5 during overtime, your team has more recorded progress, and the crystal is on the other side of the map.

I spent well over a whole minute playing ring-around-the-rosie with a NIN that chased me, a BRD, all the way back to my spawn. They would not stop chasing me so I just blocked their line of sight with a square pillar thing. It's sad how long they went on with it despite knowing I was just wasting their time.

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I spent well over a whole minute playing ring-around-the-rosie with a NIN that chased me, a BRD, all the way back to my spawn. They would not stop chasing me so I just blocked their line of sight with a square pillar thing. It's sad how long they went on with it despite knowing I was just wasting their time.

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Ugh teammates that do this drive me mad.

Cover someone being focused and chain CCed so they can pot and full heal on the spot. About to undo a full enemy team’s worth of cooldowns with two abilities, big hype. Use guard to avoid dying from 5 man redirected damage + doubled up splash

Covered player doesn’t know it stops pot from being interrupted, doesn’t notice the tether, guards while covered, and sprints out of range immediately after wasting guard to die to a stray attack

Playing PLD can be physically painful sometimes

Oh man, great topic!

There were this one MCH and one NIN who's initial plan at the beginning of every match that I was graced to share their presence in was to run straight into the enemy team and die in a second. And I don't mean overextending a guard bait or anything, they just ran in a straight line to the middle of the enemy team. It's not really that uncommon of a thing but on those jobs? I think both of those guys were in plat or diamond but can't remember. Lord knows how they managed to get even that far.

Can't forget the classic strat of just throwing a perfectly winnable match by not doing anything other than spamming good match and nice job after the enemy team wiped us. Never mind the fact that we're at like 80+ progress and they've not broken their checkpoint yet. Easiest report of my life.

Not really a strat but a fascinating phenomenon regardless are the players who hit either of those sarcasm buttons any time they die under any circumstances as if them dying is somehow something that should never happen.

Ever have a full team of 5 just get to the check point on C9 with the enemy team pushed back. There's 3 of them just respawned and the other 2 are also just about to. You'd imagine that breaking the checkpoint with 5 people in like 4 seconds and then taking on the team fight would be the correct play there especially with 4 of us right next to the crystal. No, says the ninja who's the only person close to their spawn at the moment and dives alone behind the wall to die spectacularly. Even if we wanted to dive them at that point it would've taken a few seconds for people to join him and it was obvious that we weren't going to considering the circumstances. At least we broke the checkpoint and won the overtime.

I also witnessed something amazing on my friends stream yesterday. Team's fighting on enemy spawn on C9 in a casual match. Crystals at like 98 %. Enemy team is not on crystal and is being kept in their spawn. There's a bard that could literally take a step left and move it to the goal but instead they keep plink plonking at the enemy right next to it. My friend then took it to the end but like dude, you're right there. Just win the match doofus :D

That's it for me for now.