Housing Bug Compensate

Hi,

I have been saving money since January to buy a little house, finally I saved enough all by myself by doing crafting and gathering jobs and I made a bid for my very first house. But the whole housing bug screwed me up so much and I was so disappointed and upset yesterday when I found out it affected me and I could not get the house even though I was the only bidder....

So now I am so nervous that the Dev team will just ignore all of us who lost out and brush over the whole thing by not acknowledging our rightful house and our win.

Please FFXIV Dev team, correct this by giving the house to the people who made all the effort the first time round, because it is our right and we don't deserve to be ignored, please find out who all the people who are affected by this bug is and give them their house, DO NOT just roll over to the new lottery and hurt so much of us.

Because we should not be punished for the mistake of the Dev team.

I have been playing since the very beginning of FFXIV, please DO NOT disappoint and hurt us.....I need a home....

The development team doesn't give a damn. There are tons of botched systems in the game that fail miserably. :D

I just hope they do the right thing, I am so upset to the point that I did not want to play the game after I found out about the bug and their response which has no mention on how to deal with players who did everything right and affected and lost out.....so now I am lost

They most likely won't. If you can see their focus, they're more worried about emote pronouns than fixing actual balancing systems like housing lottery. I want to stop playing simply because my favorite race (Viera) can't even wear any headgear. They've been in the game nearly 3 years and these idiots really just added a new outfit I can't use. Nice one, Square Enix! You don't deserve the success you're getting sitting on your ass. <3

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

The development team doesn't give a damn. There are tons of botched systems in the game that fail miserably. :D

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name the botch systems?

@sagacious Namely in my case, the entirety of the glamour system! It's AWFUL! It's a petty gripe, I know, but fashion is important to me.

The problem is so many affected players unknowingly claimed the money back, but this is not their mistake and they cannot know the bug was there at the time and FFXIV has to address this. They have to have some balls and give the house to their rightful owner!!! I am so frustrated...when can FFXVI give up some answers on how they will dev with affected players?

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Originally Posted by Palslow

because it is our right

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Right there is where you need to stop.

This is a video game, "rights" have nothing to do with it.

I think its time we got an update, we are going on 24hrs now since this all went down, yes i know these things take time but gee what a kick in the ass.
I myself was the the only bidder on a private and my friend bid on a FC house for us and was the only bidder so we won both.
I love to be decorating or at least have it confirmed that we are getting the houses so i can start to plan, ive gone from googling house ideas to just numb.

What's more annoying is i had a house on kujata, gave it up to move to oceanic, then had to wait 4 months to even have a chance at a house.
Constantly check the release date, worrying about the lotto, i even stood on the plot for hours before the lotto finish to maybe silently persuade people from bidding.

For me 50% of the game is housing, its honestly starting to give me anxiety.

@Palslow Don't pay attention to them, they have 3k posts, they don't ever stop talking.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Right there is where you need to stop.

This is a video game, "rights" have nothing to do with it.

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NO, EXCUSE ME, you are not me, I spent so much effort and time in this game, it is a very emotional thing when this happened. If you cannot relate then at lease provide constructive advice rather than ask me to shut up.

I am a paying player and I did everything right for purchasing a house, I am pretty sure that when the fault is not with paying players, the game developer has the responsibility to correct this and at least has a solution that satisfies paying players.

Do you think this is an unreasonable request? Stop being toxic!

The short of it is, SQE is lazy as fuck and abusing the fact that their game is blowing up because of WOW's failure. Pretty sad and funny for a triple A company. The game has been horrible from the start, they made a come back, but it looks like they don't remember their initial failure. If you can see, the devs spend most of their time fixing benign bullshit that affects nothing instead of fixing genuine issues that have been present for years past. It's both funny and sad (that you could be hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars deep but cant fix something a freelancing modder can) LOLOLOLOL, horrible devs, all of them.

Oh boy here we go again

oh and btw i got my bachelor's degree before this game could even add hats for rabbits. sad, huh?

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

@sagacious Namely in my case, the entirety of the glamour system! It's AWFUL! It's a petty gripe, I know, but fashion is important to me.

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If the glamour system was botched, you wouldn't be wearing those sunglasses on your head at the time of this post. And on a Viera no less. The system does have limitations, restrictions, and flaws, but you're not the only glamour chaser in the game, and the rest of us find ways to circumvent the issues we have, and create an avatar that we enjoy looking at.
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As for the housing bug, I seriously doubt the winners of the plots with single entries will still be rewarded. I could be wrong, but I honestly wouldn't get your hopes up, OP. However, don't let it stop you from trying again if that is the case.

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Originally Posted by Palslow

I am a paying player and I did everything right for purchasing a house, I am pretty sure that when the fault is not with paying players, the game developer has the responsibility to correct this and at least has a solution that satisfies paying players.

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And it's your view they're not working on a fix? No it's not the players fault but right now those affected need to sit and wait and see what they come up with. It's been less than a day since this happened and it's going to take a bit to identify what happened and implement a fix.

It is botched, fully. You don't think so because you play a full accessible race. Obviously a minor problem in the soup of issues this game has, but one nonetheless. They're even adding new outfits I can't use! Sounds like SQE to me.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

If the glamour system was botched, you wouldn't be wearing those sunglasses on your head at the time of this post. And on a Viera no less. The system does have limitations, restrictions, and flaws, but you're not the only glamour chaser in the game, and the rest of us find ways to circumvent the issues we have, and create an avatar that we enjoy looking at.
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As for the housing bug, I seriously doubt the winners of the plots with single entries will still be rewarded. I could be wrong, but I honestly wouldn't get your hopes up, OP. However, don't let it stop you from trying again if that is the case.

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Thanks, at this point I really just trying to make the FFXIV developer realise that this could be one solution.....I am trying my best to get my house because I started from 2000 gils and saved up enough to buy a little house...that is not easy for someone who has to work a lot and can only play during weekends...I put too much pressure on myself to get enough money for this house...I know I need to chill but not at the moment, because I care so much

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Right there is where you need to stop.

This is a video game, "rights" have nothing to do with it.

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No, you are correct. Rights have nothing to do with it, privilege does. It's a privilege that we get to buy and pay for this game, and it is also a privilege that the devs are taking our hard earned money as their salary and still fuck it up some how without proper testing, therefore becoming a privilege for the said upset individual to voice their concerns about this broken system.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

And it's your view they're not working on a fix? No it's not the players fault but right now those affected need to sit and wait and see what they come up with. It's been less than a day since this happened and it's going to take a bit to identify what happened and implement a fix.

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I understand, I am frustrated not because of this, but because they have no mention of how they will deal with players who are affected and lost out.....It is for this reason I am frustrated. They could at least make it clear to the affected players about their plan....

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Originally Posted by Palslow

I understand, I am frustrated not because of this, but because they have no mention of how they will deal with players who are affected and lost out.....It is for this reason I am frustrated. They could at least make it clear to the affected players about their plan....

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They've had at least two responses in 24 hours and hopefully we'll get an updates sometime today as well. I think they can probably reroll the 0's but the real issue is that some claimed refunds so not sure how they will deal with that. Some are going to lose out no matter what it appears and that's sad but we need to see what they come up with.

I think you can be sure they're not happy this happened and they know housing is a big thing with many and they will try and fix it as soon as possible. People have until July 19th for a refund but they need to get this done quick so they can start another round of lottery. Too many 1 bid houses with no winner at least on Materia.

Yeah, except one singular person was able to buy half of a ward because of it. Nice one, Mr. :)

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

Yeah, except one singular person was able to buy half of a ward because of it. Nice one, Mr. :)

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Yea, but they have been chosen between the lottery bug, lottery "0 winner" bug and dozens players. I think they deserved lol.
Houses with lottery bug had no winners and you lost nothing, so why are you entitled to compensations?

A waste of my time is where my compensation comes in, buddy. I don't pay money monthly and break my neck playing to get kicked in the mouth by the developers "mistake".

I don't need your "I'm higher than you" mentality. If you want to challenge my outlook, add me. :)

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

A waste of my time is where my compensation comes in, buddy. I don't pay money monthly and break my neck playing to get kicked in the mouth by the developers "mistake".

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So what exactly happened in your case. Are you part of the zero club or you lost the roll in the lottery?

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

A waste of my time is where my compensation comes in, buddy. I don't pay money monthly and break my neck playing to get kicked in the mouth by the developers "mistake".

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Could you please elaborate more about your time wasted? I spent probably 30 seconds to click a button to draw lottery and then teleported back to Limsa.

The waiting part? The making the money part? You're funny, funny looking dragon man.

I haven't been playing for 10 years like you, sorry I'm not an SQE simp~.

IMO we should be able to reroll with only the people who originally bid on that plot. No more no less for "compensation"

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Originally Posted by Palslow

NO, EXCUSE ME, you are not me, I spent so much effort and time in this game, it is a very emotional thing when this happened. If you cannot relate then at lease provide constructive advice rather than ask me to shut up.

I am a paying player and I did everything right for purchasing a house, I am pretty sure that when the fault is not with paying players, the game developer has the responsibility to correct this and at least has a solution that satisfies paying players.

Do you think this is an unreasonable request? Stop being toxic!

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It isn't really that emotional. I thought it was actually funny how bad this failed over all, it went even worst than I expected. You don't have a right to good customer service because you are a paying player. The reason a solution is taking so long is this is a bit of a situation, and how to handle this situation is not easy as some one is going to come out angry regardless of the choice they made to address this. In reality if this rolled over to a new lottery system would the results be that different from the last if you were the only player that bid on a house. The reality is you are just being selfish and making entitled demands that have no thought behind them.

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Originally Posted by lacrimosaangel

Uh, YES. That is exactly how probability works. If you were the only person on a plot or not, it doesn't matter. Putting it back into the NEXT round will increase the total number of bids, and people who lost legitimately would have a second chance where those who lost to a bug, didn't *get* their legitimate bid recognised.
There's going to be a LOT more people competing for a lot fewer houses, so yes, the result will be VASTLY different.

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There's also going to be more houses as people relocate old houses and as FC housing gets opened to players. Also why where there will be a lot more people competing? It would be less than the number of people originally competing. Do yall think about stuff before you post it or just spout BS that sounds right in your head to justify your entitlement.

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

oh and btw i got my bachelor's degree before this game could even add hats for rabbits. sad, huh?

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What does that have to do with anything. With a statement like that you should probably go ahead and burn the bachelors degree cause you don't seem intelligent enough to use it properly.

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

I haven't been playing for 10 years like you, sorry I'm not an SQE simp~.

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Bachelors degree forked over $15 to complain on a video game's forums of a game they aren't even playing.

It wasn't a brag about my bachelor's degree, it was the fact that I was able to get something that took years in the time they still haven't added a basic feature kiddie modders already have. Add me if you want be a little creep, I can give you something to complain about.

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

It wasn't a brag about my bachelor's degree, it was the fact that I was able to get something that took years in the time they still haven't added a basic feature kiddie modders already have. Add me if you want be a little creep, I can give you something to complain about.

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Ignore that person, he is toxic and does not deserve a reply....he is just trolling

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Originally Posted by Palslow

Thanks, at this point I really just trying to make the FFXIV developer realise that this could be one solution.....I am trying my best to get my house because I started from 2000 gils and saved up enough to buy a little house...that is not easy for someone who has to work a lot and can only play during weekends...I put too much pressure on myself to get enough money for this house...I know I need to chill but not at the moment, because I care so much

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I also started with very little gil. I think my recruiter gave me around 5k to start with and some gear. I've been playing a long time, and was fortunate to not have to deal with high housing demand as it is today, but I eventually did save up enough for the medium plot I currently have. It was nice to be able to just 'buy it' back then, so I really do sympathize with the players who desire their own house. Especially the ones who are content with just a cute little small plot, and would/do take advantage of every ilm of that space. It is for this exact reason that I encourage you to dust yourself off and try again when the lottery starts back up. I will be wishing you and other like-minded players the best of luck.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

In reality if this rolled over to a new lottery system would the results be that different from the last if you were the only player that bid on a house.

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Uh, YES. That is exactly how probability works. If you were the only person on a plot or not, it doesn't matter. Putting it back into the NEXT round will increase the total number of bids, and people who lost legitimately would have a second chance where those who lost to a bug, didn't *get* their legitimate bid recognised.
There's going to be a LOT more people competing for a lot fewer houses, so yes, the result will be VASTLY different.

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Originally Posted by lacrimosaangel

Uh, YES. That is exactly how probability works. If you were the only person on a plot or not, it doesn't matter. Putting it back into the NEXT round will increase the total number of bids, and people who lost legitimately would have a second chance where those who lost to a bug, didn't *get* their legitimate bid recognised.
There's going to be a LOT more people competing for a lot fewer houses, so yes, the result will be VASTLY different.

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exactly my point too! you said it perfectly. The result will be so skewed if they let players roll again, and hundreds of original bidder will lose out, it is very unfair

So you're saying that the modders who allowed the ability to wear hats a FEW MONTHS after Viera were added only did so because they don't work at square enix? I get that they have tons to do, but this is not a feature that would kill them to incorporate. I don't care about old clothes, but new? I'll cry. They released a new set that is really cute, but I don't get to enjoy it. :( Yes, I'm entitled and upset. I guess a part of my salt being that the game doesn't tell you that you can't wear headgear as Viera when you make your first character ever. :D

They are probably just going to ignore this problem and expect you still pay for the sub :D

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Originally Posted by Palslow

Hi,

I have been saving money since January to buy a little house, finally I saved enough all by myself by doing crafting and gathering jobs and I made a bid for my very first house. But the whole housing bug screwed me up so much and I was so disappointed and upset yesterday when I found out it affected me and I could not get the house even though I was the only bidder....

So now I am so nervous that the Dev team will just ignore all of us who lost out and brush over the whole thing by not acknowledging our rightful house and our win.

Please FFXIV Dev team, correct this by giving the house to the people who made all the effort the first time round, because it is our right and we don't deserve to be ignored, please find out who all the people who are affected by this bug is and give them their house, DO NOT just roll over to the new lottery and hurt so much of us.

Because we should not be punished for the mistake of the Dev team.

I have been playing since the very beginning of FFXIV, please DO NOT disappoint and hurt us.....I need a home....

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its unlikely the dev team will. There was numerous times where there was a bug that the 45 day timer didn't go off and people lost their houses while actively using them, and still didn't get their houses back for that bug.

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Originally Posted by WitchHaiku

It is botched, fully. You don't think so because you play a full accessible race. Obviously a minor problem in the soup of issues this game has, but one nonetheless. They're even adding new outfits I can't use! Sounds like SQE to me.

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TBF and frankly speaking. YOU chose to playa class that they said BEFORE IT CAME OUT would have limitations due to time constraints for other issues and developments in the game. And that it would be a constant update for this class. That's on you for choosing that. This problem, however, is one that involves a system that nobody frankly asked for and was told would be better than the last. Then effected all involved out of no will of their own