All The FC Only Wards Are Empty

They needed 75% of the wards for uh, what, exactly?

Putting them to good use while they wait for the 1-Player 3-Alt FCs to hit to the 30 day barrier, I guess.

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Originally Posted by Redgate

They needed 75% of the wards for uh, what, exactly?

Putting them to good use while they wait for the 1-Player 3-Alt FCs to hit to the 30 day barrier, I guess.

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This was to be expected, most of fc wards in Ishgard in particular will just stay empty because 18 wards is absolutely overkill even on populated servers, in the meantime personal wards are getting absolutely hammered with tickets on every single plot available, very fair system indeed...

Out of all the new plots that came out after the lottery, maybe 5% are personal wards, at most 10%, everything else is FC ward, and of course the best plots are FC ward as well.

They said this would be adjusted. Give it time and they will open more up to private houses.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

They said this would be adjusted. Give it time and they will open more up to private houses.

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There is no time needed to see that there is absolutely no need for 18 FC wards, more than half of those houses are absolutely empty, if not 70% of them. It doesnt take an engineer to see that. The numbers should have been the opposite, 18 wards for personal and 6 for fc, or something more even like 12/12.

I am expecting they did it this way to purposefully give FC's access to more large houses and then after they have their crack at it they will open it up to private buyers to fill up the small and handful of medium left over.

There's also, you know, a major bug that's made an absurd amount of houses not claimable. I saw a large in the FC wards with 12 bids on it that no one won, because the bug has made either lotto ticket 0 (which doesn't exist) win, or it's not registering that people did bid.

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Originally Posted by Drakus_Mortem

There's also, you know, a major bug that's made an absurd amount of houses not claimable. I saw a large in the FC wards with 12 bids on it that no one won, because the bug has made either lotto ticket 0 (which doesn't exist) win, or it's not registering that people did bid.

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Even then, 18 wards wont ever be filled, its simply too much.

Give it time? We've been waiting for "enough" housing for 10 years, and waiting on the new neighborhood to open for over 2 years. I'm done waiting. The amsrt move here is to dump this game. The devs obvious give zero shits about anything anymore.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

They said this would be adjusted. Give it time and they will open more up to private houses.

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Yeah, they'll adjust it just in time for the 30-day barrier to end and all the shell FC's to buy their totally-not-personal houses. Fixing absolutely nothing.

Riveting.

Maybe they could've used their heads for something other than a hat rack and realized they don't need over a thousand new plots for Free Companies only.

Also, I did wait. All the way back when they started teasing Ishgard housing - only to get told last minute "Btw you get to pick from 5 wards lol".

Well there'd be a few more houses in the FC wards if the 0 bug didn't happen. :^)
Plus, it's not like the wards need to be filled to the brim after the first round of lotteries.

These wards are just going to be filled with solo FCs who want to run submarines for gil.

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Originally Posted by EvanLydian

Well there'd be a few more houses in the FC wards if the 0 bug didn't happen. :^)
Plus, it's not like the wards need to be filled to the brim after the first round of lotteries.

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When personal houses are getting absolutely hammered down by tickets ? Yes they do need to be filled, otherwise they are not needed and they should be given for personal owners who are all struggling to get a house, even more with this sytem.

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Originally Posted by Raim

These wards are just going to be filled with solo FCs who want to run submarines for gil.

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These were probably the people from the start crying that their "FC NEEDS A HOUSE" because their huge number of members don't have a venue for events and activities...

Nearly empty FC wards was something I pretty much expected because of the FC size and duration requirements they posted. I feel like most likely the majority of the FC's that got homes in the FC wards in Ishgard probably used it as an opportunity to upgrade to a larger house.

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Originally Posted by Krojack

They said this would be adjusted. Give it time and they will open more up to private houses.

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Small only of course :)

When the unclaimed FC only plots will be open to private buyers? Ishgard seems ghost town even on old server like Zodiark, almost all medium / small plots around my FC one have 0 bidders.

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Originally Posted by Somnolence

When the unclaimed FC only plots will be open to private buyers? Ishgard seems ghost town even on old server like Zodiark, almost all medium / small plots around my FC one have 0 bidders.

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They wont, that's where the issue us, they will stay as FC plots until eventually SE decides to make them personal, which we have absolutely no info about. Even if they are empty, they will stay empty as fc plots.

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Originally Posted by Somnolence

When the unclaimed FC only plots will be open to private buyers? Ishgard seems ghost town even on old server like Zodiark, almost all medium / small plots around my FC one have 0 bidders.

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Whenever they decide to patch it. Which could be anywhere from tomorrow to beyond 10.0.

Please, look forward to it.

While I do agree that the 18wards for FCs is high even on Mateus. The bigger issue is the lottery itself. Our FC bid on a large with 9 of our members bidding on the house. We were the only bidders and lost to a 0. Bug yes…but as we walked around we saw that no one seemed to have won in the ward, and more than 90% of the houses didn’t even have bids. So if they fix the issue with the lottery…we will literally be the only people in the ward.

It's not only that, as a FC leader, I can assure that it's much easier to raise funds to a Large house, problem is there's only 3 of them per subdivision which heavily limits our choices.

We're trying to get a Large house for years now :(

I think the biggest problem here is that the developers are fixated on conformity. They have not taken into account that there are very real differences in terms of server populations and even what drives the people in different regions.

If their goal was to allow FCs to win larges before they eventually open FC wards to personal buyers, it would have made sense to restrict ALL larges to FCs only and open ALL mediums and smalls to personal buyers. Instead of leaving 75% of wards ghost towns for an undisclosed amount of time while the whole server fights over the remaining 25%.

I'm actually concerned the ward my own house is in will become a ghost town
being in a goblet FC ward that had an empty large plot no one bid on is kind of ominous

guess I can understand though... as gorgeous as the brimming heart is, it only supports 1 medium and 6 smalls and the rest of the goblet is pretty boring

My FC finally got a large so big success

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Originally Posted by Redgate

They needed 75% of the wards for uh, what, exactly?

Putting them to good use while they wait for the 1-Player 3-Alt FCs to hit to the 30 day barrier, I guess.

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Are you sure it's not because the lotto bugged out with the 0's?

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

Are you sure it's not because the lotto bugged out with the 0's?

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I'd like to say that I do, but I have my doubts.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

There is no time needed to see that there is absolutely no need for 18 FC wards, more than half of those houses are absolutely empty, if not 70% of them. It doesnt take an engineer to see that. The numbers should have been the opposite, 18 wards for personal and 6 for fc, or something more even like 12/12.

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They wanted to give FC more chance of getting a house if they didn'y have one already. Why? Because one house can fit many, and FC get more facilities and use out their homes. They should give it a couple more tries (for FCs that were goong for M or L but missed out), before openning the rest for Personal Housing.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

Are you sure it's not because the lotto bugged out with the 0's?

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nah if you actually went through the FC wards you'd have seen it was mostly just large and medium with nearly all the smalls sitting at 0 bids
then go to the private wards and every single house is at 15+ with even a bunch of smalls sitting at 30+ since first time homeowner is a for sure thing

Frankly they should have gone with 25% of the available wards and reserve 50% of the total big plot for the fc and no more, i mean what the point of locking small plot for fc ? Unless it's a one player fc any free company can afford a medium sized plot.

And i don't see why FC with only one member should be prioritize in any way.

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Originally Posted by EvanLydian

Well there'd be a few more houses in the FC wards if the 0 bug didn't happen. :^)
Plus, it's not like the wards need to be filled to the brim after the first round of lotteries.

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except if people bid on the lots, they should have a winner, thats the whole point of the system is it not? thatd be like with the old system if someone tried to buy a plot, and it just took your gil, and still let someone else buy the plot, point is, even if the system did work as intended, there would be zero plots for this supposed "round 2" of lottery, except maybe if people were relocating, and even then itd be a handful of lots here and there and mostly smalls, so any looking for medium and large would be, well, largely out of luck

i agree with what someone earlier posted, they should of reversed it, or split it 12/12, and why dont we have more wards added to the current zones? that would help as well

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

Are you sure it's not because the lotto bugged out with the 0's?

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Feel free to wander the FC wards and see how many of the placards on empty plots have 0 bids. The number is considerable.

I got lucky for my FC house. 0 was not the winning entry. But if I wander around my ward (main and subdivision), I'm finding:

houses with no entries - 27 (3 of those are mediums, believe it or not)
houses with entries but won by 0 - 7 (one is a medium that had 11 entries, a few members of a FC were sitting at the plot very unhappy and all I could was wish them luck that SE fixes things soon)
houses with entries won by other than 0 but not yet claimed- 3

The remaining plots have been claimed.

So, at least in the case of my ward, the O bug isn't really to blame. Almost half the plots had no entries at all. A few may get taken during the next couple of lottery periods as those who were direct bidding against others and lost enter for what's left. Otherwise they'll remain vacant until decides to set the wards to personal.

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Originally Posted by Redgate

They needed 75% of the wards for uh, what, exactly?

Putting them to good use while they wait for the 1-Player 3-Alt FCs to hit to the 30 day barrier, I guess.

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Yeah because we all lost to imaginary participant 0. I can account for 3 separate fc's that did not get a house and they were the only ones to bid on it.

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Originally Posted by Faafetai

Yeah because we all lost to imaginary participant 0. I can account for 3 separate fc's that did not get a house and they were the only ones to bid on it.

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Happened to my FC. You can't conclude anything right now because that bug is huge.

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Originally Posted by Syln

Frankly they should have gone with 25% of the available wards and reserve 50% of the total big plot for the fc and no more, i mean what the point of locking small plot for fc ? Unless it's a one player fc any free company can afford a medium sized plot.

And i don't see why FC with only one member should be prioritize in any way.

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I don't understand this FC with one member stuff don't FC's recruit and become more? I started mine and ask them all to please stay but they all left and since I have recruited two more but I have insurance with 3 alts to make sure I don't lose it. I am always recruiting and am more active then 3 people combined and I love gardening and sail boating/submarining so what's not to like? Everyone needs to make 3 alts and get a fc house if there are not enough single personnel's. I have the time to make it work maybe you don't ...

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Originally Posted by sagacious

I don't understand this FC with one member stuff don't FC's recruit and become more? I started mine and ask them all to please stay but they all left and since I have recruited two more but I have insurance with 3 alts to make sure I don't lose it. I am always recruiting and am more active then 3 people combined and I love gardening and sail boating/submarining so what's not to like? Everyone needs to make 3 alts and get a fc house if there are not enough single personnel's. I have the time to make it work maybe you don't ...

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It's been around for a while. The old system was first wave was restricted to FC and relocating. FC's for FC facilities and relocating because it opened up houses all over the older areas for people to go after.
So a lot of people made what is basically a solo FC to get first dibs on bigger houses and skip the process of getting any small you can so you can relocate later on. I guess antisocial to the point of sacrificing ever having FC access so you can skip the line for a house is a lot more common than it should be