White mage's Glare and Holy

Am I missing anything or does white mage's Glare and Holy skip from Glare I and Holy I to Glare III and Holy III upon reaching level 82..?

No u not messing anything they skip 2went to 3

I think its due to translation or something?
Other data center has Cure, Cura, Curaga while we got numbers idk. dont remember lol

Beside that i feel Glare III looks like Glare I.
I much prefer Stone IV tho (heck Stone III was prime).

I just wish glare and holy would feed the blood lily so when I'm dps'ing I have more than one button to press.

in JP they use -a, -ga and -ja suffixes for spells. In the EN localisation, they use II, II, IV.

the spells in JP are called Holyga and Glarega so they got localised as Holy III and Glare III in EN.

Its Holyga in Japanese, which directly translates to holy3 using the traditional spell name convention.
This if course circles around to why they skipped Holyra.
-ga typically is for AoE spells, while -ra is typically just more powerful single target, so I presume they used the AoE suffix because holy is an AoE spell and thus is translated unfortunately.

Because our localization is a little jank. They didn't think we could handle the traditional spell ranking system of FF games (Cure, Cura, Curaga, Curaja), so they number them instead with 1 2 3 4

They decided to take Holy and Glare from base, and upgrade them straight to Holyga and Glarega

only english version , in french its mega chatoiement = mega glare . Honestly i don't know why they didn't went for the mega and extra instead of II III bs

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Originally Posted by Waterscape

only english version , in french its mega chatoiement = mega glare . Honestly i don't know why they didn't went for the mega and extra instead of II III bs

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Probably because, until FF VIII, all English localizations used numerals to indicate the spell level. Spell suffixes in English FF releases is actually comparatively new.

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Originally Posted by Atamis

Its Holyga in Japanese, which directly translates to holy3 using the traditional spell name convention.
This if course circles around to why they skipped Holyra.
-ga typically is for AoE spells, while -ra is typically just more powerful single target, so I presume they used the AoE suffix because holy is an AoE spell and thus is translated unfortunately.

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This doesn't follow, in Final Fantasy I, -ra/2 were multi-target, and in the vast majority of single player FFs since 3, ST vs AoE is simply selectable by reducing the damage per target.

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

This doesn't follow, in Final Fantasy I, -ra/2 were multi-target, and in the vast majority of single player FFs since 3, ST vs AoE is simply selectable by reducing the damage per target.

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Yes it varies wildly by game. In XI Fire was single target, Fira was an aoe coming from the caster and Firaga was an AoE on enemy and then you had numerals to denote higher tiers, so Firaga II was stronger than Firaga.
While in tactics they were all AoE except firaga could hit things in a larger vertical range.

Still doesn't quite make sense why not just rename them Glare/Holy II if that variant of the name only exists in english anyways, but ehh whatever

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Originally Posted by Allegor

Still doesn't quite make sense why not just rename them Glare/Holy II if that variant of the name only exists in english anyways, but ehh whatever

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Consistency. No suffix is always 1, -a or -ra is always 2, -ga is always 3, and -ja is always 4. So if the spell skips a version in JP, it will also skip in the other versions.

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Originally Posted by SnowVix

Consistency. No suffix is always 1, -a or -ra is always 2, -ga is always 3, and -ja is always 4. So if the spell skips a version in JP, it will also skip in the other versions.

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Except part of the point of localisation rather than translation is to avoid things that seem weird or confusing when translated, but this change has generated a bunch of posts on these forums and various other media from people finding it weird or confusing.

Despite knowing the history of the suffixes and their importance to the franchise, I'm think the skipped number is way more irksome than the skipped suffix.

All to avoid a technical inconsistency that's only visible it you alternate between playing the game in two languages.

I could swear there was a patch during ARR that removed a lot of repetitive spells, and that is why the numbers skip in some places.

But maybe I’m remembering wrong?