Que times are unhealthy

Just got kicked at spot 50, was taking a piss and didnt notice, got back to a 6600 que.
The disconnection is so unhealthy it encourages you to keep staring at that timer for hours at the time because you might be disconnected.

Please fix this. I can't even trust the system anymore if I want to play. I lost 4 hours of que time and now I have to stare for at least 5 hours more. I give up.

Happened to me the other day after 2 hours in queue get 2002 error then took me 6 trys to get past the start menu to login and queue again just to be put back from 1000 to over 10k.

There needs to be a longer period of time where you can rejoin queue, I was in queue and got 2002 at 800 while I was taking a shower.
Now I've been waiting again from the beginning...

I have to have my second monitor in front of me too while I surf on my art tablet and wait.
If you don't have a second monitor you basically have to constantly tab in and out to keep an eye on it...

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

There needs to be a longer period of time where you can rejoin queue, I was in queue and got 2002 at 800 while I was taking a shower.
Now I've been waiting again from the beginning...

I have to have my second monitor in front of me too while I surf on my art tablet and wait.
If you don't have a second monitor you basically have to constantly tab in and out to keep an eye on it...

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This. I don't have two monitors so I can't get other tasks done without having to sit in half screen. It's infuriating. Also, not wanting to leave the pc for too long in fear of a dc..

I was trying to log in for over 4hrs today and then booted out. Needless to say, it was somewhat infuriating.

Watching the player queue slowly come down is not the game that I am subscribed for, so i've now decided to cancel my subscription and will see how things are in a few weeks/months. If it is better, then great, if not, then at least I can spend the time doing other things.

Good luck in getting in and enjoying what seemed to be an amazing expansion.

happened twice today 6+ hours of waiting time wasted because of 2002 error .. now back at 7k !

Things are getting better.

Queue was only around 3.5k today with 6 2002s and around 2 and a half hours to log in.

You know things are bad when that can be considered an improvment.

Are you freaking kidding me??? another thread about the same thing??? You could have just looked down a few spots ON THE FRONT PAGE https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ologically-bad

My god.....

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Originally Posted by Vonleo

Are you freaking kidding me??? another thread about the same thing??? You could have just looked down a few spots ON THE FRONT PAGE https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ologically-bad

My god.....

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maybe if they do something about the errors people won't be making this many threads about the same unsolved problem ...

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Originally Posted by Vonleo

Are you freaking kidding me??? another thread about the same thing??? You could have just looked down a few spots ON THE FRONT PAGE https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ologically-bad

My god.....

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Make friends with decaf, damn. As someone who has spent more time in the queue than playing the game this past week, people have every right to be upset.

My queue time is getting stuck for long periods of time :/.

I got down to about 3k after 2 hours....then went downstairs went back up had dc I had not even been gone that long and now back to 5k.

I understand being busy but after waiting for two hours then getting booted not impressed >.<

your spot in the que definitely needs to be saved for a longer period of time, after a 2002/3003. Sucks that these issues are due to the high demand, and low supply of cpu parts across the globe.

People are sleeping on Japan right now. You could also try it if you wanna play alt (and also backup toon in the future). Got many English speaking players on Elemental.

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Originally Posted by Luluna

I got down to about 3k after 2 hours....then went downstairs went back up had dc I had not even been gone that long and now back to 5k.

I understand being busy but after waiting for two hours then getting booted not impressed >.<

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It happened again for me because I got too into a youtube video to notice I got dc'd. Time to not try more today. i guess like 6h que total today. 0 playtime.

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Originally Posted by lalin

maybe if they do something about the errors people won't be making this many threads about the same unsolved problem ...

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Aaaand what exactly is it that you think they've been doing.. scratching their asses and singing Kumbaya while dozens of forum threads worth of broken records are screeching around them?

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Originally Posted by lalin

maybe if they do something about the errors people won't be making this many threads about the same unsolved problem ...

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They are. Other wise you wouldn't have any updates/news on lodestone and the past few maintenance's of trying to fix the problem. Most people just have no patience and are ignorant.

Everyone does have a right to be upset and vent absolutely. I think the problem becomes people who want it fixed NOW that is the problem or those who think it's a giant conspiracy to rob them of money. It's NOT I promise you it's not. SE and the Developer's really do want this game to be a success and run smoothly. Through a series of unforeseen circumstances they can not get the hardware to upgrade, running with older servers and older code they are trying to fix. While it's perfectly acceptablele to vent it's not healthy to speculate conspiracies. That's bordering on paranoia and that is not healthy. I have been stuck in queues to but I've managed to log in at odd times too, I know many can't do that I'm lucky my kids are grown and have their own kids so my time is my own and I do work too. It will get better for all it's just going to take time.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

They are. Other wise you wouldn't have any updates/news on lodestone and the past few maintenance's of trying to fix the problem. Most people just have no patience and are ignorant.

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you can call people ignorant and white knight se all you want , they never warned people about the errors and that i must watch the queue for any chance of being kicked and that i must relog the same moment or it's over ..
i had the error 2002 8 times today no exaggeration

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Originally Posted by lalin

you can call people ignorant and white knight se all you want , they never warned people about the errors and that i must watch the queue for any chance of being kicked and that i must relog the same moment or it's over ..
i had the error 2002 8 times today no exaggeration

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It's not white knighting when they did tell us there would be problems it's truth. They did tell us. 2002 error maybe they didn't know about that. It's maddening but really nothing we can do except ask if it's fixable or ask to get it fixed.

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Originally Posted by Snorky

It's not white knighting when they did tell us there would be problems it's truth. They did tell us. 2002 error maybe they didn't know about that. It's maddening but really nothing we can do except ask if it's fixable or ask to get it fixed.

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They did warn about 2002, on November 30.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0e73ebb986a6ee

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Originally Posted by Lanadra

They did warn about 2002, on November 30.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...0e73ebb986a6ee

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I stand corrected.

Is there any information about SQUARE doing anything with those que times? It's like 6k+ on Odin

http://https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/6a94b30182b6d963994fdc0b789264ac9f24986f
■ Error 2002 Related to Login Queues

As we mentioned in our previous announcement (https://sqex.to/eUgyp), there are two causes of Error 2002.

Occurrence of Error 2002 When the No. of Players Waiting in the Queue per Logical Data Centre Exceeds 17,000

This processing is carried out to prevent the login server from going down if the queue becomes too long. The error occurs when the queue has reached the maximum number of people and a player attempts to newly join it. After opening the launcher, entering one’s ID, password, and one-time password, and then proceeding to the character selection screen, an error message is displayed when attempting to log in. When that happens, it may look like as if a problem has occurred because the client shuts down completely. In reality, however, access is not possible due to the cap on the number of players that can join the queue. We are very sorry but, in this case, we would appreciate that you give it some time and try again later.

Please note that we were able to successfully raise this cap on the queues as a result of deploying our backup development machines to the lobby servers on December 7. This means that the error is less likely to occur even within peak hours, with the exception of those times when access is at its highest. On the other hand, this has resulted in longer queues due to the increase in the number of players who can wait for access. Your understanding on this point would be much appreciated.

Error 2002 Occurrence From Issues With the Player's Internet Connection

Currently, most of the reports we have been receiving about Error 2002 are to do with this issue. The reason for this is that, as a result of longer queues and more time spent in the queue, there is an increased likelihood of issues occurring in relation to the player’s internet connection. In most cases, this is considered to be caused by packet loss on the internet route or instability from the Wi-Fi connection in the player's internet environment.

Even if you are temporarily disconnected due to Error 2002 at times of such instability, the lobby server will continue to wait for a few tens of seconds to a minute for your connection to be restored. If you are able to get back online and reconnect to the lobby server quickly, you will be able to queue up again from the middle of the queue. After a certain amount of time, the connection will be completely lost, and you will have to join the end of the queue.

Currently, this occurrence of Error 2002 seems to be causing the biggest troubles for our players, so if it's possible for you to use a hard-wired internet connection, please consider switching to it instead of using Wi-Fi. If you are playing on the PlayStation®4 or PlayStation®5 version, please also check your settings related to power saving.

I would like to express my deepest apologies for having to ask this of you but unfortunately this is a result of the increased access to our service. It would be greatly appreciated that you consider and check about these possibilities, so that you can avoid connection instability as much as possible and benefit from a stable playing experience.

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Originally Posted by Zellios

Is there any information about SQUARE doing anything with those que times? It's like 6k+ on Odin

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Other than having spend months trying to get the hardware they needed for launch, being unable to get it even at well above market rate, warning us that due to this we should expect congestion problems at launch, and since early access started constantly keeping us apprised of what issues are in play and what they're trying to do to lessen it? Do you mean all of that information?

If you hadn't gotten the hint yet.. they can't do anything about the queues themselves.. that's the whole problem. All they can and are trying to do is try to eliminate the errors like 2002 and 3001 so that people can at least leave the queue be and not worry about 2002's booting them out.

please this needs to be fixed i have to wait everyday several hours just to get bored and not feel like playing anymore after logging in , when are they adding the new servers ?

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Originally Posted by lalin

please this needs to be fixed i have to wait everyday several hours just to get bored and not feel like playing anymore after logging in , when are they adding the new servers ?

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As soon as they can get the hardware, there is a shortage at the moment due ot the pandemic.