When applying to Kardia to yourself or an ally. The dots (damage) from Eukrasian Dosis would not proc Kardia's heals. Not sure if this was a bug or intentional, in order to prevent double dipping on the heals. Though, it clearly states that it should trigger Kardia, but it doesn't, only the initial cast of Dosis/Eukrasian Dosis seems to only trigger its effect.
SAGE - Eukrasian Dosis
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12-04-2021, 06:11 AMAeryseSAGE - Eukrasian Dosis
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12-04-2021, 06:30 AMrewdBecause that's exactly how it is supposed to work and it's also very obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeryse
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12-04-2021, 06:41 AMFeidamYeah. Only the initial potency gives a healQuote:
Originally Posted by Aeryse
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12-05-2021, 01:33 PMAverax
It's not healing per damage so much as it is healing per action. If you use Eukrasian Dosis on a target, the initial application will heal, the ticks will not. It's a potent perma regen tool so long as you just keep hammering away as it is, so adding the dot ticks as extra healing would be a little much
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12-07-2021, 12:42 AMScarletDawnPotent? Its 130 potency its weak, if it was a dot that turned into a regen it would actually be worth using but its just a dot for extra damage the heal part is worthless. If you wanna use it to heal best to cast a shield instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Averax
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12-07-2021, 03:24 AMHyperiusUltima130/action. Turns into 170/action at 85. It’s good for what it does, and I haven’t seen too many problems with it. SGE isn’t weak by any standard. It just has different tools we’re still trying to understand in terms of practical use. Just remember Kardion can be retargeted to a new MT whenever swaps happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarletDawn
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12-07-2021, 03:38 AMSilver-StriderKardia is just Embrace Macro'd to your DPS skills and little more. It's not suppose to function as a full on healing ability,.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarletDawn
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12-07-2021, 03:53 AMHyoMinParkKardia is a regen. It’s not supposed to be as potent as an something like Druochole for example. It serves its purpose with proper damage upkeep as a perma-regen on the tank currently getting punched in the face. It isn’t meant to be something that you throw on a tank and can just freely ignore them—not even Regen and Aspected Benefic, which are 250 potency per tick, have that luxury. But each HoT tick adds up to less GCD casts and/or Addergalls resources used on just autos throughout the course of a fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarletDawn
For what it is, it serves its purpose. I haven’t had issues with it when I get tanks properly rotating CDs in the newer dungeons. Or even old ones. Healing Holminster when you have a tank who knows cooldowns are proactive buttons and not “oh sh—“ buttons is amazingly smooth. To get the best use out of it requires healers to deal damage. Already I’ve seen new SGEs standing idle with Kardia on the tank—and with those, you obviously won’t see any benefit from it.
I’ve also seen them in alliance raids or 8-mans throwing it on the OT who never takes autos when it would be better served on the MT because the effects do stack, but that’s another conversation altogether.
My only complaint for it is I wish there was more to Kardia in terms of function. I hope to see it expanded upon in the future. -
12-07-2021, 04:40 AMLiam_Harper
Remember HoT's tick every 3 sec, while Kardia relies on your GCD, which is shorter. If you compared Kardia directly to a Regen, it would be over 200 potency worth while spamming dps.
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12-07-2021, 09:22 AMScarletDawn
Hmm i guess will take practice with Sage but i felt like as a solo healer i was using dps skills less and had to use the normal heals and shields more in bit pulls due to the GCD messing up Eukrasia, if Eukrasia wasnt effected by the GCD would be best but its so jarring to use Toxicon then need to use Eukrasia.
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12-07-2021, 08:53 PMArchaell
Healing over time would be preferred, but can be without it.
What I don't like about Eukrasian Dosis is the clunkiness in AoE situation. Other healers just cast their DoTs and scroll through enemy list, while Sage has to use two buttons for each enemy which is far from comfortable. I wish it had a Bane-like effect to spread. For example when the target is hit with normal Dosis, or when the target hits Kardion user, or something like that. It's fine single target, but during large pulls... not a fan. -
12-08-2021, 03:22 PMAnotherPersonIt's the opposite for me. I feel super comfy with Eukrasia Dosis since it feels like I have to actively turn on my skills to DoT instead of autopiloting. Sage feels good to me at in AoE since I have Dyskrasia, Toxicon from pre-shielding, and Phlegma to use. I rarely find time to manually DoT outside of just running to the next mob pull since there's usually enough pulled that it's better to just use Dyskrasia over Eukrasia Dosis by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archaell
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12-08-2021, 05:06 PMAllegorI really miss healer aoe dots. "Eukrasian Phlegma/Toxicon" could've been Sage's Bane equivalent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archaell
On a similar note, do dots even do decent damage anymore or are there just for fluff? I dont's use meters or anything but it feels a single Glare/Broil/Malefic/Dosis does more damage than the entirety of their respective dots and we didn't even get any upgrades this time around either /shrug -
12-08-2021, 05:15 PMRein_eon_OsborneIf they get to tick for their full duration (or just enough to surpass our nukes), then I guess yes..? Although it's not too noticeable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
- Dia > Glare x11 = 4,070p of damage across 12 GCDs
- Straight Glare x12 = 3,720p of damage across 12 GCDs
All healers DoT starts to surpass their nukes beyond their 5th tick.