Mogstation deceptive

I saw that there were two items on the Mogstation: Saint's Cap and Saint's Beard. I didn't want the beard, so I thought I only needed the Saint's Cap, so I bought it. When I put it on, I discovered the Saint's Cap is not a Saint's Cap. It is a Saint's Cap and a Saint's Beard. The name is deceptive. What's also bad is that they appear to be treated as separate items ($3 for Saint's Cap, $3 for Saint's Beard, $5 for both) on Mogstation, but actually just the Saint's Cap is both. I'm confused. I really would like to just don the cap without the beard. If this isn't possible, I will feel tricked and ripped off without a refund. The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that it is a bug.

Edit: I just realized that the game doesn't have separate slots, one for a hat, and one for facial content (beard), so the real problem is that the item in question is called a "Saint's Cap" right next to a "Saint's Beard." They should be "Saint's Cap & Beard" and "Saint's Beard."

There's a cap on the market board called "Dream Hat" that fits what you are looking for, it's about 5k on my server so not expensive :) .

As for the hat on mogstation, I could see it being a bit confusing however the item description says, "Complete your disguise with this saintly cap and false beard!
When a false moustache alone fails to conceal your identity, try donning this saintly cap and beard. Friends and strangers alike will be convinced you're the Saint of Nymeia himself."

I mean... you can always look up the item before buying it.

https://i.postimg.cc/rpw0DZpM/Model-...-Male-Hyur.png

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Originally Posted by ItMe

I mean... you can always look up the item before buying it.

https://i.postimg.cc/rpw0DZpM/Model-...-Male-Hyur.png

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The item's picture and description on the store should be a good indicator already:

Description
Complete your disguise with this saintly cap and false beard!
When a false moustache alone fails to conceal your identity, try donning this saintly cap and beard. Friends and strangers alike will be convinced you're the Saint of Nymeia himself.

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

Description
Complete your disguise with this saintly cap and false beard!
When a false moustache alone fails to conceal your identity, try donning this saintly cap and beard. Friends and strangers alike will be convinced you're the Saint of Nymeia himself.

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Yep. This isn't SE's fault. It's right there for anyone to read.

I will say I have gotton things on mogstation (that I regret or don't work that well)

they need to create a npc that doesn't sell this things, but you can try them on from before buying...Would like a try out mounted window as well . "So many mounts that just don't look right for me and my style, and not having a see first is kind of a pain.

I trusted the title of the item. "Saint's Cap" is not synonymous with "Cap and Beard," at least in English. As for the reference to the mustache, it is just saying that if the other product we offer isn't good enough.

I didn't know one could, and still don't know, how to Try On the product before buying.

Edit: I guess I'm supposed to know about all the items in the game, too, because I would have gotten a Dream Cap instead of buying this.

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Originally Posted by GregJ7

I trusted the title of the item. "Saint's Cap" is not synonymous with "Cap and Beard," at least in English. As for the reference to the mustache, it is just saying that if the other product we offer isn't good enough.

I didn't know one could, and still don't know, how to Try On the product before buying.

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Isn't Meoni always doing this try on before you buy video in his channel?
Am I going to hear any other excuse?

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Isn't Meoni always doing this try on before you buy video in his channel?
Am I going to hear any other excuse?

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does he do it with every race/every hairstyle on both genders? because that all can be the difference of an amazing outfit and one that looks bad "like the princess dress looks godly on a lalafell but the other race its kind of bad

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

does he do it with every race/every hairstyle on both genders? because that all can be the difference of an amazing outfit and one that looks bad "like the princess dress looks godly on a lalafell but the other race its kind of bad

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I pretty sure he usually includes difference races for new outfits on mogstation
Hairstyle? What is the point?

There are worse things than your beard problem for 13.50 € / 18 USD where there is "no problem at all" with clipping.
Luckily the long skirt, gloves and heels are nice, because the dress is totally messed up. That's one hell of a pregnant princess dress.

https://store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ff...us/product/450
https://i.redd.it/xgj7ziurdjy21.jpg

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

There are worse things than your beard problem for 13.50 € / 18 USD where there is "no problem at all" with clipping.
Luckily the long skirt, gloves and heels are nice, because the dress is totally messed up. That's one hell of a pregnant princess dress.

https://store.finalfantasyxiv.com/ff...us/product/450
https://i.redd.it/xgj7ziurdjy21.jpg

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LOL that is why google is everyone's best friend, always do research before you e-shopping.
Beside, it is well known that all outfits created by Korean or China region will have clipping issues.

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

I will say I have gotton things on mogstation (that I regret or don't work that well)

they need to create a npc that doesn't sell this things, but you can try them on from before buying...Would like a try out mounted window as well . "So many mounts that just don't look right for me and my style, and not having a see first is kind of a pain.

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Say what you will about the gameplay, but Black Desert Online has an amazing policy when it comes to their cash-shop outfits. You can try on outfits beforehand, but even still, I've purchased several outfits that I just didn't end up liking too much once I got them out into the world, and they refunded them with no questions asked....and it was really quick too (within a day). I would loooove for more games to be that flexible with their shops.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Say what you will about the gameplay, but Black Desert Online has an amazing policy when it comes to their cash-shop outfits. You can try on outfits beforehand, but even still, I've purchased several outfits that I just didn't end up liking too much once I got them out into the world, and they refunded them with no questions asked....and it was really quick too (within a day). I would loooove for more games to be that flexible with their shops.

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Isn't the shop where they make all of their money tho? Of course they want to have good impressions on it so people keep going back

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

LOL that is why google is everyone's best friend, always do research before you e-shopping.
Beside, it is well known that all outfits created by Korean or China region will have clipping issues.

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The worst thing is that they never thought it was worth fixing the clipping bugs and the fact that the bottom part of the dress is way too high.

Although fixing this kind of bug would require the game engine to handle clipping. But still, whoever validated this outfit as okey was just opportunistic.

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

does he do it with every race/every hairstyle on both genders? because that all can be the difference of an amazing outfit and one that looks bad "like the princess dress looks godly on a lalafell but the other race its kind of bad

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He does actually.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Isn't the shop where they make all of their money tho? Of course they want to have good impressions on it so people keep going back

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I imagine that most of their income comes from the cash shop as it's a B2P game, but that doesn't excuse XIV's lack of such a policy. Unlike BDO, XIV collects a monthly subscription and has a very profitable cash-shop, but we have no real recourse if we aren't satisfied with an outfit we've purchased. Seems slightly backwards.

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Originally Posted by GregJ7

I trusted the title of the item. "Saint's Cap" is not synonymous with "Cap and Beard," at least in English. As for the reference to the mustache, it is just saying that if the other product we offer isn't good enough.

I didn't know one could, and still don't know, how to Try On the product before buying.

Edit: I guess I'm supposed to know about all the items in the game, too, because I would have gotten a Dream Cap instead of buying this.

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There's actually a photo in the online shop of the item you're buying right there next to the name of it. I mean I get it that it's disappointing to have purchased an item that's not what you thought it would be. But this isn't really Square being deceptive when they include a photo of what it looks like in-game and a description that states it includes the beard.

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Originally Posted by wereotter

There's actually a photo in the online shop of the item you're buying right there next to the name of it. I mean I get it that it's disappointing to have purchased an item that's not what you thought it would be. But this isn't really Square being deceptive when they include a photo of what it looks like in-game and a description that states it includes the beard.

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To be fair, the photo "of the item you're buying" has a character wearing an entire Santa outfit, not just the item. So from the picture alone it isn't immediately apparent what you're buying or that it includes a beard.

The item description is more clear, but the photo definitely isn't.

When you are in the FFXIV online shop and look at the right side to the initial picture that is showcasing the item, you will see the items that you will actually purchase. There, you can hover your mouse over them, and it will show how it would look ingame. And you can see that the cap comes with the beard.

https://i.ibb.co/VVPVrzC/Capture.png

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Originally Posted by GregJ7

I saw that there were two items on the Mogstation: Saint's Cap and Saint's Beard. I didn't want the beard, so I thought I only needed the Saint's Cap, so I bought it. When I put it on, I discovered the Saint's Cap is not a Saint's Cap. It is a Saint's Cap and a Saint's Beard. The name is deceptive. What's also bad is that they appear to be treated as separate items ($3 for Saint's Cap, $3 for Saint's Beard, $5 for both) on Mogstation, but actually just the Saint's Cap is both. I'm confused. I really would like to just don the cap without the beard. If this isn't possible, I will feel tricked and ripped off without a refund. The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that it is a bug.

Edit: I just realized that the game doesn't have separate slots, one for a hat, and one for facial content (beard), so the real problem is that the item in question is called a "Saint's Cap" right next to a "Saint's Beard." They should be "Saint's Cap & Beard" and "Saint's Beard."

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There is a crafted item that is just the hat, I forget the name, there is one with kitten ears and pon, I love that one.

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Originally Posted by FusiaRain

I will say I have gotton things on mogstation (that I regret or don't work that well)

they need to create a npc that doesn't sell this things, but you can try them on from before buying...Would like a try out mounted window as well . "So many mounts that just don't look right for me and my style, and not having a see first is kind of a pain.

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Not that I encourage going to fan sites, but there is a fan site that does this already. Just use google and look up "FFXIV Model Viewer". Also since a bunch of WOW creators are coming to FFXIV, I'm sure that the people behind WOWhead, and CurseForge will have model views up soon.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

There are worse things than your beard problem for 13.50 € / 18 USD where there is "no problem at all" with clipping.
Luckily the long skirt, gloves and heels are nice, because the dress is totally messed up. That's one hell of a pregnant princess dress.

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I got it for the gloves and shoes, just like I got the "Far Eastern Maiden's Attire" for the shoes and panty hoes.

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Originally Posted by Naoki34

The worst thing is that they never thought it was worth fixing the clipping bugs and the fact that the bottom part of the dress is way too high.

Although fixing this kind of bug would require the game engine to handle clipping. But still, whoever validated this outfit as okey was just opportunistic.

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For all foreign outfits imports, the outfits are request/paid by foreign publishers and their community is ok with clipping.
Do some research and you will see this particular forum is also ok clipping and demanding SE to import these outfits. (on top of that, this community also told Yoship that they dont mind about long hair clipping)
So it is quite awkward now that you are accursing SE not fixing clipping.