Healer Glamour

Another thread on the forum is touching on healer glam via the gendered (or not) animations and AF gear of some jobs, but I was surprised by how many people wanted more of the same, while my friends and I wanted more variety for healer glamour on XIV.

I'm always reserved about taking parts of forums where the people who don't actually use those classes post so...

What do the people of the Healer sub-forum think?

I don't personally like Healer glam being so often Priest robes, Frills and Wraps and would prefer other stuff more in line with the DPS caster's variety and maybe the odd Doctor's coat (ALC glam should be classless pls) into the mix. But do most healers agree that it's too one-note or that it's fine and I should shut up?

As a Hrothgar, I would like more future clothing to have tail holes rather than having my tail awkwardly clip through robes or capes; it's distracting and limits how many options I want to choose between.

I would prefer more masculine or gender neutral glams because I like the look on my lala. I would like more coats, pants, cool masks and helmets (or more massive hats), and armour for healers.

god, yes. I'm so tired of generic and unremarkable robes, meanwhile the magic DPS get such cool and sleek outfits. I want *those*.

I currently have Paglth'an gear equipped for many of my job roles; it looks really nice, particularly for caster, healer, tank, and dragoon roles. And a flower bouquet for the head component!

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Originally Posted by Bluemagedood

Another thread on the forum is touching on healer glam via the gendered (or not) animations and AF gear of some jobs, but I was surprised by how many people wanted more of the same, while my friends and I wanted more variety for healer glamour on XIV.

I'm always reserved about taking parts of forums where the people who don't actually use those classes post so...

What do the people of the Healer sub-forum think?

I don't personally like Healer glam being so often Priest robes, Frills and Wraps and would prefer other stuff more in line with the DPS caster's variety and maybe the odd Doctor's coat (ALC glam should be classless pls) into the mix. But do most healers agree that it's too one-note or that it's fine and I should shut up?

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I'm definitely pretty tired of robes. Not that it's bad to have some, but, we have a vast wardrobe of them to choose from, we'd do fine if SE never added more again.

To SE's credit, they've diversified a bit since the last time these complaints reared their heads. But... still not really that much.

To be fair to them, the introduction of Sage has given me a little hope that they're going to diversify a little more.
And they've put in a couple of differently themed outfits in this expansion. Less than I'd want for sure, but credit where credit is due.

I'd personally kill for s'more lightly armoured tunics, or sleeveless coats sort of similar to the Dreadwyrm Cyclas.

More variety is always good. Raid healer sets have on average always been rather bland and boring IMHO.

Shame the old "Share your Healer Glamour" thread died a while back.

not so much tired of the perceived gender of clothes as much as how almost all of them have the same silhouette.

all my glamours always use generic items cuz its hard to come up with something new when everything is long sleeved and has a skirt

I'm honestly very tired of the "white frilly robe" aesthetic. When I saw that the healer Tome gear was basically just a white recolor of Rydia's outfit, I groaned in annoyance(just like I did when I saw the Eden Gate gear was basically a white maternity dress.) I would LOVE to see some more armored stuff. In my mind, the Bozja Healing set was a great start, I LOVE that outfit.

As it is now though? Shire Coat and Bozja are going to be my only two outfits :(

I'd like some armour please. Actual armour done properly, not with excessive cloth. I don't forgive them for half assing judge drace's armour. That awesome cape has no business being turned into a skirt.

I'm fed up of robes and coats. Tanks get variety of armour, why not th eother roles

The limited glamour variety is the big reason I don't play the healers more.
OP I am very much in agreement with you.

Just letting us use caster glamour would be a nice start

I like the robes they're pretty

I've been hoping for more 'Armored Healer' choices to be added.

That or more technological ones as I always enjoyed the more Scifi aesthetics of this game.

I love robes more than most other types of glams. But we definitely can use more varieties.

Honestly it would solve most of the variety issue by removing the class restriction bs.

Healer Glamour: 50 Shades of Nun

The only thing that truly upsets me about Healer (and Caster) Glam, is how the male version of the Neo-Ishgardian chestpiece is unobtainable for females.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

Healer Glamour: 50 Shades of Nun

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And we definitely need proper Nun Glamour. Hopefully theres something in Endwanker.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I love robes more than most other types of glams. But we definitely can use more varieties.

Honestly it would solve most of the variety issue by removing the class restriction bs.

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100%, even splitting old stuff to be glamoured to Disciples of War and Magic would go so very far towards allowing really cool and interesting combinations.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Honestly it would solve most of the variety issue by removing the class restriction bs.

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The best part is SE already happily mixes and matches for NPCs. Why not let them wear aiming, healing/casting, and melee gear all at once ~

Oh, but players? No no no, absolutely not, can't have players doing that.

More is always better in terms of glamour. Though I think I would rather them work on increasing our storage space for glamours before increasing what's available for healers. The way I see things is if I have to pitch something I already have to make room for something I want, then it's not increasing anything. That just means I'm trading one glamour choice for another.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

More is always better in terms of glamour. Though I think I would rather them work on increasing our storage space for glamours before increasing what's available for healers. The way I see things is if I have to pitch something I already have to make room for something I want, then it's not increasing anything. That just means I'm trading one glamour choice for another.

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Yes! We have so little space for glamours. The time i spent deciding what glamour to drop to make room for new one.

you guys are having trouble with glamour space yet last night i spent an hour trying to find one dragoon hand armour that didnt have stupid elbow bits and was dyable.
seriously how do you end up with more than 200 slots filled?

in any case, allowing more glamour from other roles would be better first as that can cut down on certain pieces that are identical but different jobs mean you need different ones thereby wasting space. Want that nice suit of dragoon armour on your tank as well as your dragoon? nope, go get that tank version.

After dabbling with my glamour dresser last night, I'm slightly comforted the fact that at least we healers gets the funky cap with microphone + can be /visor'ed (The Healers' ShB PvP Head glamour). I think for now it's one of the few unique piece, exclusive for healer role.

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Originally Posted by Recon1o6

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Varied reasons.

Some players (myself included) enjoy dressing up multiple jobs even though we don't even main those other jobs. I do this almost everyday, i.e. regularly making new plates and/or revising existing glam plates. That alone already take up good portion of the glamour dresser slots, of which you also mentioned there. One of the biggest offender in my glamour dresser are the Eden & Ronkan accessories (and some other lv70+ accessories) being tied to certain role instead of staying as "All Classes" like those lv60 and lower accessories. I have to eat 4-5 times as much as slots just so I can have those accessories available for all roles, it's almost obnoxious.

And then there's the terrible loot system from capstone dungeon. Saw something interesting drops? Now I'm inclined to keep said piece even more despite not knowing for sure whether I'll use it or not (I actually do, mostly), because I won't know if this piece will ever drop again for me or not. I mean yes they will, but it's not guaranteed! :mad: Alliance Raid loots are no better than this either.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

After dabbling with my glamour dresser last night, I'm slight comforted the fact that at least we healers gets the funky cap with microphone + can be /visor'ed (The Healers' ShB PvP Head glamour). I think for now it's one of the few unique piece, exclusive for healer role.


Varied reasons.

Some players (myself included) enjoy dressing up multiple jobs even though we don't even main those other jobs. I do this almost everyday, i.e. regularly making new plates and/or revising existing glam plates. That alone already take up good portion of the glamour dresser slots, of which you also mentioned there. One of the biggest offender in my glamour dresser are the Eden & Ronkan accessories (and some other lv70+ accessories) being tied to certain role instead of staying as "All Classes" like those lv60 and lower accessories. I have to eat 4-5 times as much as slots just so I can have those accessories available for all roles, it's almost obnoxious.

And then there's the terrible loot system from capstone dungeon. Saw something interesting drops? Now I'm inclined to keep said piece even more despite not knowing for sure whether I'll use it or not, because I won't know if this piece will ever drop again for me or not. I mean yes they will, but it's not guaranteed! :mad: Alliance Raid loots are no better than this either.

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I get the jobs each having separate glam plates, im wishing for more myself even though I've saved two through not healing at all since 5.1, but thats unrelated in this case to glam dresser slots.

and since I don't really pick up earrings being an au ra most of them just get stuck in my horns (though yoshida did mention fixing this) I guess that's a category I never really filled, same with off hand, i dont use shields as a paladin since I dislike how they all float.

Not sure why I didn't think of the capstone dungeon and alliance raids though, it took me forever to get the yorha 51 casting chest and I ran ghimlyt 8 times last night in vain trying to get the drg hands (it being one of the few armoured gauntlets without oversized elbow plates)

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

One of the biggest offender in my glamour dresser are the Eden & Ronkan accessories (and some other lv70+ accessories) being tied to certain role

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Are you constantly using those pieces in glamours or are they just "ready to use"? I'd personally consider them low priority since you can try them on any time by visiting Eulmore (and also can try on things not designated for your class, so you just need one version on hand to save the trip) and you just need to keep some hunt currency and tokens on hand to exchange for the piece you need.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

More is always better in terms of glamour. Though I think I would rather them work on increasing our storage space for glamours before increasing what's available for healers. The way I see things is if I have to pitch something I already have to make room for something I want, then it's not increasing anything. That just means I'm trading one glamour choice for another.

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I mean sure, but presumably allowing more classes to glamor more of the same items is less technically taxing than the requirements for storage space in the dresser, which they've consistently said is quite difficult.

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Originally Posted by Bluemagedood

I mean sure, but presumably allowing more classes to glamor more of the same items is less technically taxing than the requirements for storage space in the dresser, which they've consistently said is quite difficult.

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You're not wrong, but for the players who have maxed out their inventories, this doesn't help them. And the more gear that is released into the game only strains them further with having to make choice after choice of what to get rid of to make room for something new. It is also very time consuming. The only way to benefit all players is to increase the storage capacity, which is likely why the glamour system hasn't been expanded on in years. If they can't figure out a way where everyone wins, then there is only one alternative left if they still want to be fair to everyone.

I wish we didn't have to have the items physically to glamour them. A "Sketch Book" where every clothing item we obtained was kept in exquiste detail to use as a glamour later would be awesome. Holding a record of fashion we obtained just makes more sense if we are magically applying the appearance anyway. Its so hard to remember where every item comes from too. Between dungeons, raids, crafted, pvp, seasonal event, purchased items, and tomestone gear it gets out of hand trying to find something you liked but had to discard once before.

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Originally Posted by Recon1o6

you guys are having trouble with glamour space yet last night i spent an hour trying to find one dragoon hand armour that didnt have stupid elbow bits and was dyable.
seriously how do you end up with more than 200 slots filled?

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For glamour chasers such as myself, it is actually very easy to max out, even when optimizing the dresser. By optimize, I mean you don't have anything in there that doesn't need to be. The glamour dresser (for me anyway) exists to be able to give multiple jobs/classes that share gear different appearances, so if a job isn't sharing gear with anyone, there is no point for me to use up valuable dresser slots on those items. I know not everyone will utilize the dresser that way, but it's the way that works best for me.

I even have this whole tier system of value with my glamour choices that is dictated by how difficult it is to obtain the item. You might be thinking Unique/Untradeable or items bought from the cash shop, but this isn't necessarily the case. If it's an item obtained from content I hardly do such as PvP, that will increase its value to me. Even a crafted item that I use a 250-400k dye on will very likely be placed in the glamour dresser. I do have some glamours that I don't plan on ever using, but I keep them because I can no longer obtain that item. Luckily, the devs acknowledge many of those items, and allow them to be able to placed in the armoire.

Some say glamour chasers are rank S players because nothing will stand in the way of their pursuits. They will go into ultimate/savage, PvP, solo all of PoTD, climb any jump puzzle to the top, and even do every single moogle quest to get that item they want.