Post your Grand Company Weapons!

This Spear is so Epic.. I'm glad I took the time to Get this well worth it!! Great Job SE! :D

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...1335711662.jpg

http://i1129.photobucket.com/albums/...1335711676.jpg

Did u test it vs ifrit's harpoon?

EDIT:
http://i49.tinypic.com/2805mqr.jpg
Flame Sergeant's Spear: Enmity : -30, Sanction: Pty +35

FAST TEST: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...0E&output=html

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Originally Posted by Umisame

Did u test it vs ifrit's harpoon?

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I will in a bit, taking a break =). but according to the stats, it says its better than Ifrit's Harpoon =).

The only problem is you loose your sanctions upon death.

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Originally Posted by Vermilion

The only problem is you loose your sanctions upon death.

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Source? because thats kinda stupid

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Source? because thats kinda stupid

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Go get your sanction buff, then die. Lol. That should be a good enough source for you. =p

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Originally Posted by Vermilion

Go get your sanction buff, then die. Lol. That should be a good enough source for you. =p

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That's not what I ment.. like proof else where that this is occurring before, I do a major fight that can potentially kill me.

Sanction is a three hour buff, like all other buffs it vanishes upon death. Few people on my shell tested it on garuda.

Still is better though, just by looking at the Damage part

Check this thread:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...oss-All-Delays

Serpent Sergeant's Lance:

-10HP -15 Eminty Sanction +45 Attack Power

Damage~ 132

Delay~ 3.3

DPS~40.00
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Ifrit's Harpoon:


Damage~ 151

Delay~ 3.8

Attack Power +30

DPS~ 39.73

Its def a tough call without the Sanction.. that -15 Enmity seems awefully friendly.. :P.

Well, sanction should not wear on death

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Originally Posted by Umisame

Did u test it vs ifrit's harpoon?

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It's good in short bursts, IH is still far superior over the long run.

I'll take the -15 Enmity anyday... I rather not get Aggro in a long fight.. more of that the better =).

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Originally Posted by Starlord

I'll take the -15 Enmity anyday... I rather not get Aggro in a long fight.. more of that the better =).

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Can u test both weapons with a parser?, i would like to know dmg difference on weaponskills.

Do you have any parses to show how much better it is?

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Originally Posted by Umisame

Can u test both weapons with a parser?, i would like to know dmg difference on weaponskills.

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Well, If it is the case that Sanction goes away after a set time or Death.. then Ifrit will do more damage in the long run. Probably not that big of a difference considering that Sergeants Lance attack .5 faster than Ifrit's Harpoon.. which in turn equals more TP, Which allows you to Net more Weapon Skills, In which can effect the whole outcome of, which Weapon outdo's what.

But the Damage in those aspects, even though Ifrit may come out on top on damage just a tad, the -15 Enmity takes makes it worth the little less damage that you do in the end.

That's just me though :p.

Edit: No I don't have Parse, But I can confirm the Lance attack quite faster than Ifrit's Harpoon, if that helps any =).

Check one of my posts in first page, i give u a link where u can see that weapon with lower delay get same tp per second.
1 second = 100 tp

Only good thing about a weapon with lower delay is that u hit more times, you are not going to do more WS.

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Originally Posted by Umisame

Check one of my posts in first page, i give u a link where u can see that weapon with lower delay get same tp per second.
1 second = 100 tp

Only good thing about a weapon with lower delay is that u hit more times, you are not going to do more WS.

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The more times you hit. more TP you get out of it.. DRG is the TP hog Job after all :P. I still rather have -15 Enmity either way ^^

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Originally Posted by Starlord

The more times you hit. more TP you get out of it.. DRG is the TP hog Job after all :P. I still rather have -15 Enmity either way ^^

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Check this:

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Originally Posted by Rydin

It is just as I figured....

TP is always 100tp per second (TP/s) for every weapon of every type

So a delay of 4.2 would get you 420 TP per hit...
and a delay of 2.5 will get you 250 TP per hit....
So Each weapon will get you 1000TP in 10 seconds

So TP generation should NEVER be considered when talking about if one weapon is better than another, UNLESS it has "storeTP" or "Enhances Invigorate" on it...

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Originally Posted by Umisame

Check this:

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You still hit it more times thus in a long fight with you hitting Garuda every 2 seconds for 80 damage and Ifrit's Lance hitting 90 every 2.5 seconds.. in the hitting category its almost close, the Weapon Skill area is different though, but the Minus Enmity, will Keep Garuda/Ifrit/Moogle away from you more often.. and thats the plus side of all that! =).

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Originally Posted by Starlord

The more times you hit. more TP you get out of it.. DRG is the TP hog Job after all :P. I still rather have -15 Enmity either way ^^

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-15 enmity is = to 1.5% if you really need that -15 enmity to not pull hate. Then you need to find a better tank.

Also Dragoon pretty much has limitless tp already and with the proper rotation you should have all weaponskills on cool downs. The only way that a Speed weapon will beat Ifrit's. Is if it increased the amount of weaponskills you could do over time. With the Reuse timers and how quick fights are on this game that simply doesn't happen.

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Originally Posted by Xianghua

-15 enmity is = to 1.5% if you really need that -15 enmity to not pull hate. Then you need to find a better tank.

Also Dragoon pretty much has limitless tp already and with the proper rotation you should have all weaponskills on cool downs. The only way that a Speed weapon will beat Ifrit's. Is if it increased the amount of weaponskills you could do over time. With the Reuse timers and how quick fights are on this game that simply doesn't happen.

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The more the better, I always say ^^

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Originally Posted by Starlord

You still hit it more times thus in a long fight with you hitting Garuda every 2 seconds for 80 damage and Ifrit's Lance hitting 90 every 2.5 seconds.. in the hitting category its almost close, the Weapon Skill area is different though, but the Minus Enmity, will Keep Garuda/Ifrit/Moogle away from you more often.. and thats the plus side of all that! =).

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and the lower damage rating means your stats cap lower, which means both your auto attack damage and WS damage will be far lower by the end of the fight.

not to mention -15 enmity is an absolutely meaningless tradeoff for raw damage, especially when that -15 enmity should never ever ever eve revererverervereverever matter if your tank is even remotely decent

if monks and blms can hit 150-160 dps without a shred of -enmity and the warrior can still keep hate, you don't need it. period.

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Originally Posted by fusional

and the lower damage rating means your stats cap lower, which means both your auto attack damage and WS damage will be far lower by the end of the fight.

not to mention -15 enmity is an absolutely meaningless tradeoff for raw damage, especially when that -15 enmity should never ever ever eve revererverervereverever matter if your tank is even remotely decent

if monks can hit 150-160 dps without a shred of -enmity and the warrior can still keep hate, you don't need it. period.

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Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Edit: Better be safe than sorry :P.. and besides as long as I don't die the Sanction buff will still be there in which I can use that weapon to take down Pointless NMs Faster YAY! :p.

Man drink the kool aid more ><

Damage is always the deciding factor.

Raises your stat caps and allows for higher WS damage.

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

Man drink the kool aid more ><

Damage is always the deciding factor.

Raises your stat caps and allows for higher WS damage.

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Like I said.. I'll use the Very good yes Risky Spear to take down NMs or other things that I won't die on lol.
And just use Ifrit's Harpoon for the Harder fights.

The lance is worse then ifrit's, is this seriously even been discussed? Don't even need a parser to see that.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

The lance is worse then ifrit's, is this seriously even been discussed? Don't even need a parser to see that.

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Its Situational

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Its Situational

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No. It's just worse. Always. Unless there is an enemy that gains HP from begin hit and that forces you to hit it.

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Originally Posted by Frein

No. It's just worse. Always. Unless there is an enemy that gains HP from begin hit and that forces you to hit it.

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Like I said, Different strokes for different folks... Can't argue with anyone about Statistics :P. So i'm leaving it at that.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Like I said, Different strokes for different folks... Can't argue with anyone about Statistics :P. So i'm leaving it at that.

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but according to the stats, it says its better than Ifrit's Harpoon =).

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derpdederp

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Like I said, Different strokes for different folks... Can't argue with anyone about Statistics :P. So i'm leaving it at that.

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if there was for some reason you need that -enmity, fire your tank and get a new tank

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

if there was for some reason you need that -enmity, fire your tank and get a new tank

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Different strokes for different folks. Can we just end it there :/

Besides this thread wasn't about Statistics anyhow.

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Different strokes for different folks. Can we just end it there :/

Besides this thread wasn't about Statistics anyhow.

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I don't know, man. Either I misunderstand your posts or you like your strokes inferior.

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Originally Posted by Frein

I don't know, man. Either I misunderstand your posts or you like your strokes inferior.

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Read the OP.. this thread was about Posting your Grand Company Weapon Pictures.. then "other people" were talking about Can you Parse this and that?...

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Originally Posted by Starlord

Read the OP.. this thread was about Posting your Grand Company Weapon Pictures.. then "other people" were talking about Can you Parse this and that?...

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This is lodestone forums, should expect threads to be derailed.

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Originally Posted by Eliseus

This is lodestone forums, should expect threads to be derailed.

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Yep I know that.. it always happens that way :/ lol.. and what I say isn't facts.. its just how I "prefer" things to be for myself that's all :P.

Star, why would you even engage them in an argument about it being situationally better if this is a thread about posting pics? ._.;

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Originally Posted by Kiroh

Star, why would you even engage them in an argument about it being situationally better if this is a thread about posting pics? ._.;

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I didn't even start this to begin with.. -.- the beginning was about Pictures.. but everyone else took it to a Statistic level >.>...