Questions about job stories

I started as bard but it class story quests sucks . Any other dps job with fun story that you would recommend ?
Also I heard a lot of good about dark knight story , i like the i idea of wielding two handed sword , is he like death knight from wow, if that is the case i am not interested in playing him.
I will try paladin instead, also heard his story is decent.

Good DPS stories?
I quite enjoyed SMN and NIN~
Yeah, DRK's is pretty good too. And touching on non-DPS options I also quite enjoyed SCH and AST's stories.

I'm not sure what it is about Death Knight that would make you uninterested in playing Dark Knight. If it's the gameplay—I haven't touched WoW in years, but Dark Knight is nothing like Death Knight. If it's story, well...

Death Knights in WoW are undead killing machines—literally. If they don't slake their thirst for battle for long enough, they will lose all self control and engage in wanton slaughter until their bloodlust is sated. Dark Knight, by contrast, is closer to a traditional Knight Errant, but with dark magic and mild edginess thrown into the mix.

Couple of things.
You mentioned looking for decent DPS class stories, but then brought up Dark Knights and Paladins.
From a couple of things you mentioned, I'm assuming you're coming over from WoW, where Death Knights and Paladins have DPS specs.
Please be aware that FF14 does not have this, and that Dark Knights and Paladins are pure tanks, although everything is really some flavor of DPS in actuality (FF14 vets know what I mean here)
If you're looking for good DPS class stories, I personally really enjoyed the early rogue story, before you become a ninja, as well as the Dragoon.
The pugilist/monk storyline starts out well, but then peters out into a mostly meh story arc unfortunately.
I mostly play melee classes so I can't really say much about the ranged DPS class stories

If you have heard good things about the paladin story quest, you may have been deceived. The gladiator class quests are okay, but the 30-50 and 50-60 paladin quests are probably the worst in the game. The level 60-70 are about the same quality as the gladiator quests.

Marauder is okay, while warrior from 30-60 is not my favorite. The 60-70 quests are better, but they take a turn that may not be to everyone's taste.

Dark knight is probably the most popular, especially the 30-50 and the 80 quests. I also think they are quite good.

Gunbreaker isn't bad. It mostly serves as a way to provide backstory to the Hrothgar and Bozja.

Lancer was also pretty decent, though maybe nothing groundbreaking. I know people like the dragoon quests, but they never really got interesting to me until the 60-70 quests.

Pugilist is also decent, though the level 30-50 monk quests were kind of boring. I personally believe they got better from 50-70.

Samurai is pretty good from start to finish, but 50-60 is really good.

Rogue is great; same writer as the dark knight quests. Ninja quests from 30-70 aren't bad, but not outstanding. They aren't as great as the rogue quests, and kind the same story beats.

For some reason, I could not follow the archer and bard quests. I want to say the 50-70 bard quests aren't terrible, but I simply couldn't follow along.

Machinist is great. You spend a lot of time shooting people in the kneecaps.

Dancer was fine. Interesting, and has some good music, but I didn't stand out much to me.

Thaumaturge and black mage were fine up to 50, but 50-70 was kinda forgettable. Supporting characters were good, but the plots felt bland.

Red mage is overall great.

Arcanist was pretty good. Summoner was boring IMO, but scholar is fantastic.

I liked the conjurer quests, though a lot don't. White mage gets a little better in the 50-60 and 60-70 quests, but the 30-50 is eh.

Astrologian is also really good.

There are few good DPS job stories. I think only Dragoon, Red Mage, Samurai (to an extent), and Machinist really qualify for DPS. For healers, Scholar's storyline is really good. For Tanks, Gunbreaker and Dark Knight are good. Though in general, Dark Knight has the best job story in the game, since it actually takes what has happened in the Main Story Quests and uses it for the storyline.

Don't forget the crafter and gatherer quests. Alchemist is really good, especially 60-70 which gets into the backstory of a major character.

Botanist acknowledges that you have done an optional dungeon, which is kinda neat.

If I had to rate the stories overall...

Tanks: DRK > GNB > WAR > PLD

Heals: SCH > AST > WHM

Melee DPS: DRG > SAM > NIN > MNK

Ranged DPS: MCH > BRD > DNC

Magic DPS: SMN > BLM > RDM

DRK is a very "personal" story...and I can't say much more about that without it becoming spoilery.

DRG can be considered a prelude to HW in a way and changes the dialogue throughout a fair bit if you opt to finish the level 50 quests prior to starting it.

SCH offers some additional insight into the Nymians, the lesser known third party in the War of the Magi.

MCH ties rather strongly into the social climate of Ishgard and the push towards giving the commonfolk more power and presence in a society where some would rather they stay down in the dirt.

SMN offers a fair bit of additional lore behind the Allagans, has some appearances from MSQ characters, and also has the distinction of being the only job story that has any direct Ascian involvement.

I have reasons why I liked all of the stories in general, but I find those ones had the most reasons I liked them overall.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

If I had to rate the stories overall...

Tanks: DRK > GNB > WAR > PLD

Heals: SCH > AST > WHM

Melee DPS: DRG > SAM > NIN > MNK

Ranged DPS: MCH > BRD > DNC

Magic DPS: SMN > BLM > RDM

DRK is a very "personal" story...and I can't say much more about that without it becoming spoilery.

DRG can be considered a prelude to HW in a way and changes the dialogue throughout a fair bit if you opt to finish the level 50 quests prior to starting it.

SCH offers some additional insight into the Nymians, the lesser known third party in the War of the Magi.

MCH ties rather strongly into the social climate of Ishgard and the push towards giving the commonfolk more power and presence in a society where some would rather they stay down in the dirt.

SMN offers a fair bit of additional lore behind the Allagans, has some appearances from MSQ characters, and also has the distinction of being the only job story that has any direct Ascian involvement.

I have reasons why I liked all of the stories in general, but I find those ones had the most reasons I liked them overall.

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Thanks for the extensive info.

Dragoon has a really good story for DPS.

Warrior has a good story for tanks.

Scholar has a good story for healers, those are my recommendations.

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Originally Posted by Steelbreaker25

If you have heard good things about the paladin story quest, you may have been deceived. The gladiator class quests are okay, but the 30-50 and 50-60 paladin quests are probably the worst in the game. The level 60-70 are about the same quality as the gladiator quests.

Marauder is okay, while warrior from 30-60 is not my favorite. The 60-70 quests are better, but they take a turn that may not be to everyone's taste.

Dark knight is probably the most popular, especially the 30-50 and the 80 quests. I also think they are quite good.

Gunbreaker isn't bad. It mostly serves as a way to provide backstory to the Hrothgar and Bozja.

Lancer was also pretty decent, though maybe nothing groundbreaking. I know people like the dragoon quests, but they never really got interesting to me until the 60-70 quests.

Pugilist is also decent, though the level 30-50 monk quests were kind of boring. I personally believe they got better from 50-70.

Samurai is pretty good from start to finish, but 50-60 is really good.

Rogue is great; same writer as the dark knight quests. Ninja quests from 30-70 aren't bad, but not outstanding. They aren't as great as the rogue quests, and kind the same story beats.

For some reason, I could not follow the archer and bard quests. I want to say the 50-70 bard quests aren't terrible, but I simply couldn't follow along.

Machinist is great. You spend a lot of time shooting people in the kneecaps.

Dancer was fine. Interesting, and has some good music, but I didn't stand out much to me.

Thaumaturge and black mage were fine up to 50, but 50-70 was kinda forgettable. Supporting characters were good, but the plots felt bland.

Red mage is overall great.

Arcanist was pretty good. Summoner was boring IMO, but scholar is fantastic.

I liked the conjurer quests, though a lot don't. White mage gets a little better in the 50-60 and 60-70 quests, but the 30-50 is eh.

Astrologian is also really good.

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I cannot get into classes that at lvl 50 or over (too much skills at once , also it feels if i boosted a character). Summoner was my main but it got borring after a while. Now i am trying bard on differnt character but i find the store borring while gameplay could be interesting at later levels.

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Originally Posted by Kenarashi

I cannot get into classes that at lvl 50 or over (too much skills at once , also it feels if i boosted a character). Summoner was my main but it got borring after a while. Now i am trying bard on differnt character but i find the store borring while gameplay could be interesting at later levels.

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Gameplay for Bard can be interesting.

The Storyline pre-50 was written, as were all the base ARR jobs, with a bit less panache than later quests, writing against a deadline for a game that many thought was already dead, had something to do with it as well.

The reason Dark Knight and Machinist, for example, have what appear to be better storylines is that they had two years to put them together after the release of ARR. The storylines for jobs became much more straightforward in each subsequent expansion.

I wonder at times if the reasoning behind the Role quests in ShB (and, soon, in EW) is because it was really getting difficult to fit so many different storylines into each expansion and still keep them interesting. One can put way more effort into four storylines over a two year period than 18 of them.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

I wonder at times if the reasoning behind the Role quests in ShB (and, soon, in EW) is because it was really getting difficult to fit so many different storylines into each expansion and still keep them interesting. One can put way more effort into four storylines over a two year period than 18 of them.

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You are correct, they said it was too many jobs to make storylines for, so they're settling for role quests telling new storylines, and level cap job quests and job quests for the new classes. Meaning Reaper and Sage will have level 70-80 job quests, and then a final one at 90 (while all previous jobs will only have the 90 quest).

My favorite stories in ARR are GSM and ALC. For combat Rogue is the best and Maruarder the worst IMHO.

If you do the beast tribes, the Ixal story rocks.

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Originally Posted by Steelbreaker25

If you have heard good things about the paladin story quest, you may have been deceived. The gladiator class quests are okay, but the 30-50 and 50-60 paladin quests are probably the worst in the game. The level 60-70 are about the same quality as the gladiator quests.

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Makes sense, considering the 60-70 paladin quests are basically a gladiator story.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Makes sense, considering the 60-70 paladin quests are basically a gladiator story.

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Level 80 too. You talk to Jenlyns long enough for him to say something is bothering Mylla and then it's off to the Gladiator's Guild for the rest of the Job Quest. The HW Job Quests for Paladin were so bad it effectively killed the entire Job's storyline and from here on out it's pure Gladiator. The game is so well known for it's story and characters, but then you look at Paladin and it's like, what the hell happened here? Just depressing to even think about it.

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Originally Posted by Beddict

Level 80 too. You talk to Jenlyns long enough for him to say something is bothering Mylla and then it's off to the Gladiator's Guild for the rest of the Job Quest. The HW Job Quests for Paladin were so bad it effectively killed the entire Job's storyline and from here on out it's pure Gladiator. The game is so well known for it's story and characters, but then you look at Paladin and it's like, what the hell happened here? Just depressing to even think about it.

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It didn't even make any sense whatsoever. It's like...wait, for an order of Paladins, you...what? Who wrote that drivel?

My favorite job stories for combat classes is something like

Favorites:
DRK, DRG, SAM, NIN, MCH, DNC, GNB, AST, BLU, RDM

Well Liked:
SCH, SMN, BRD, WAR, MNK

Didn't really care about/was befuddled by/sorta didn't like:
WHM, BLM, PLD,

For crafters/gatherers:

Favorites:
MIN, ALC, CUL, CRP, FSH

Well liked:
BSM, ARM, BTN, GSM, All Facet Quests in Crystarium

Were OK/At least funny:
LTW, WVR

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It didn't even make any sense whatsoever. It's like...wait, for an order of Paladins, you...what? Who wrote that drivel?

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What's even worse is that the HW Paladin quests is you have a job that is called Knight in Japanese having no interaction with any of the Ishgardian knights, in an expansion centered on a city full of knights.

Guess I'm in the minority that I actually enjoyed gladiator and the Stormblood PLD storylines. I will agree the HW plot left very much to be desired. I'm hoping future PLD stories gets more "adventurey" and distance from the whole "Holy Knight for the Sultana". It feels like they wrote themselves in a corner with that. Like a mini Legend of Zelda vibe where you have to fight a dark wizard that just happens to be weak to light.

Pre Stormblood Samurai story was pretty good. Not as good as DRK, but it tugs at the feels a little bit.

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Guess I'm in the minority that I actually enjoyed gladiator and the Stormblood PLD storylines. I will agree the HW plot left very much to be desired. I'm hoping future PLD stories gets more "adventurey" and distance from the whole "Holy Knight for the Sultana". It feels like they wrote themselves in a corner with that. Like a mini Legend of Zelda vibe where you have to fight a dark wizard that just happens to be weak to light.

Pre Stormblood Samurai story was pretty good. Not as good as DRK, but it tugs at the feels a little bit.

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I found SB to be an alright gladiator story but a poor paladin story. It didn't help that the tournament really didn't even have any stakes, not even an actual reward story wise, though gameplay wise of course you get something.

If we ever get full on job stories for old jobs again I hope we get to go on an adventure doing knight errant stuff helping people instead of dealing with the Ul'dah paladins or gladiator drama.

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Gameplay for Bard can be interesting.

The Storyline pre-50 was written, as were all the base ARR jobs, with a bit less panache than later quests, writing against a deadline for a game that many thought was already dead, had something to do with it as well.

The reason Dark Knight and Machinist, for example, have what appear to be better storylines is that they had two years to put them together after the release of ARR. The storylines for jobs became much more straightforward in each subsequent expansion.

I wonder at times if the reasoning behind the Role quests in ShB (and, soon, in EW) is because it was really getting difficult to fit so many different storylines into each expansion and still keep them interesting. One can put way more effort into four storylines over a two year period than 18 of them.

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The original jobs we get during FF14 ARR were mostly just the original 1.0 job stories they carried over into FF14 ARR so the lack of flavor players feel is mostly due to being made during 1.0 era and just slapped on with a new coat of paint due to the changes to the locations from FF14 1.0 to FF14 ARR. Only Summoner and Scholar job story during 2.0 era were created for FF14 ARR.