Travel based content please

Idea:

High payload delivery quests.

Reward: full 2,000 White Scrips

Process:

You get an extra delivery NPC that sends you to some town that needs a delivery to the other side of the world. The package is too big to teleport or fly with.

Upon accepting the quest
-All Teleportation is disabled
-All Flying is disabled
-Only your chocobo is useable, for extra flavor he can be towing a little cart (a more liberal version on this would include all mounts) (I feel like this could be an activity you could share with your chocobo, you know the iconic FF mount you forgot you had?)
-You have to travel by land, to your destination, as a reward you fill all your scrips weekly.

Achievements:
-There would be reason to farm map to increase chocobo speed
-There would be a reason to use your chocobo and get a nice barding for it other than cannon fodder in fates
-Populates the overworld on a weekly basis making it look more lively
-Introduces a different type of content that is optional

I think I'd look forward to this quest more than the roulettes or anything else to be honest since I'm bored of instanced content.

Extra:
In a funner version of this, you could have an RNG chance of encountering random enemies along the way that bind your chocobo and you must defeat them to keep going. An open world encounter where other people can help, or just ignore you. Something casual, not hard. It would be reminiscent of old RPGs where open world travel could result in a battle encounter. (since this combat idk if people would like this for delivery quests but the idea is there)

Either way I know I would enjoy travel in this game that's not port to A, port to B, done. And flying also desensitizes you to some extent and might be too convenient for this, plus if you're carrying something heavy there would be a reason not to overload your mounts.

I feel like others would look forward to travel based content.

Why does this give me death stranding vibe

This sounds like a bigger version of some already existing Fates.
I'm not really sure how that on a bigger scale would make it more engaging.

I'm with you in that having a reason to walk across the maps would be nice though.

I don't know about traveling just for traveling's sake (because repetition), but adding content outside of fates into the open world will get the same desired effect. Hidden NMs that dont require a giant mob to kill and drop something actually interesting can definitely spice up the open world. That or open world dungeons that involve puzzles with doors/levers/etc. Then it can instance out to a boss fight or w.e. We do that similar to the treasure hunts, but the involvement with them is very shallow. You're just walking on open land and popping a chest.

My biggest gripe of this game is we have a giant beautiful world here and it has zero use after you go through the story. I would like more implementation to actually give any and all players a reason to go into it. How neat would it be to travel into all this ocean/lakes we have in content and find a cave that leads to a small puzzle or something?

Reminds of that notorious quest in FFXI where you had to smuggle goods for the Tenshodo from Jeuno to San d'Oria via airship (you couldn't teleport to the destination as it would destroy the goods, and it needed to be delivered more quickly than travel by chocobo was capable of), and it had the especially frustrating caveat that you had a one in two chance of being actually caught by the customs agents at the airship dock, who would then confiscate your airship pass for a whole week of real time (as well as the contraband you were smuggling, meaning you not only failed the objective, you lost your ability to travel by airship for a whole week - given how big the world was this made it even more worse).

But then, that was FFXI for you, it wasn't exactly a merciful game...

I'm very much in favour of more open world content!

I'm in favor of adding more travel (think "journey") based content, and just an overall greater experience (talking in single digit minutes, not hours like FFXI miss the boat your whole party is now dead lol), I'd also love to see mounts potentially gain more flavor like GW2 (in my defense I suggested like ideas before GW2 ! lol, way back in the ffxiv beta era XD).

I love the idea of the cart following the chocobo. It could be cool if there were options, pros, and cons, to different methods of transportation. Might have a nice mountain climbing bird vs a strong multi-cart birb. Different goals / concepts.

Someone referenced Death Stranding, and yeah sure look at that game and get some inspiration.

Ugh, please, no mount travel flavors. I like that my traveling experience is not diminished just because of my choice in mount. I am very much happy when every mount can now fly. The faster speed for the bike is just barely tolerable and I hope there's no more of these types of mounts. That said, multi-seater mount and mount actions are ok.

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Originally Posted by linayar

Ugh, please, no mount travel flavors. I like that my traveling experience is not diminished just because of my choice in mount. I am very much happy when every mount can now fly. The faster speed for the bike is just barely tolerable and I hope there's no more of these types of mounts. That said, multi-seater mount and mount actions are ok.

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Particularly I was thinking of the flavor during these travel quests, and in general not as much outside. Where it would fit better for approaching the game without being able to fly and such, high jump goes from useless but cute flavor to an actual feature in a situation where flying wasn't an option (like in some ways it being there, I think, is still cool but obviously a bit technically useless if you can just fly- which is for flavor I say Dragoon should get a better / charge jump once they unlock flying in an area.. prevents balance issues but adds just a neat extra 'thing'). Since you picked it before the mission started it also makes it more of a concept, rather than switching to the best of every situation you'd have to approach it to the best of your ability given what you brought. You might be able to sneak the system into general content before you unlock flying, some would huff but I think the ultimate implication would be fine as being locked to the ground is a short lived experience and could shift the way people initially approach the game (giving even more thought to the land), and once you get the aetherial currents you unlock aetherial movement which gives you a high precision vanilla movement ('magical' movement'). Not that it needs to be there in normal play, like I said I was thinking for this travel focused content.

Full flavor mounts, that are not just tiny flavor, would require a large shift in how mounts have worked all this time making a huge amount of work. Personally I think while that would be cool I know changing something people are used to is dangerous for multiple reasons, including FFXIV does do a "wear and be what you want" presentation so your mount getting taken off that wouldn't be the best so.. not the primary goal of that comment. Keeping it just a select few mounts, perhaps chocobos in particular to enhance the FF flavor, have this feature (like draught chocobo as your powerhouses, maybe colors-like feature mater here like in classic FF games, blue chocobo if you wanted them to carry stuff into the water or swim against heavy current). As mentioned above you might get away with it, especially if it was chocbos, pre-aether currents unlocked, and just have aetherial movement (particularly flying aspect itself) be better than the other choices such that flying is the great equalizer. Even if chocobos may still jump higher if upgraded, all mounts at that point fly and the fastest option is to fly- so the difference is not that punishing in the end (and happens to line up with ehy FF game, why not use a chocobo for some it.. lol). But is not needed, as I was speaking specifically 'travel content', like what OP was doing.

Another example of a good place you could use it, going off Chocobos again as well, is chocobo hot and cold. Especially if they did a very lite version of Death Stranding concepts (heavy current, steep cliffs, etc).

No. Real content please.

Archeage had something similar to this, where you took trade packs through the open world to a destination for reward, the further you went the more reward. They actually had it very well done where you could craft carts and even ships to carry more packs further.

However the content was only GOOD because that game was open world PvP. There was a risk involved in running trade packs, because you could get attacked by other players and they then could steal your goods.

This created a great amount of open world content because it created a service economy in the game as players would hire bodyguards, or groups would form specifically to hunt down traders. There was espionage, skullduggery and betrayal as well.

In FFXIV I think this type of content would be well... Boring. A cake walk through a completely safe environment, because let's be honest, nothing in the overworld is a threat to the player unless the are really bad at the game.

This reminds me of the traveling merchant thing from Mabinogi. I really enjoyed that content, it was fun running with other people around the world. If ffxiv ends up with something similar I would play it without doubt.

It's an interesting idea but I think for a single quest that gives 2000 scrips there should be some challenge. For instance, give it a level 1 cap and aggro (or getting aggro a certain number of times) causes failure.

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Originally Posted by MPK

No. Real content please.

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Yeah, we really need more raids and EX fights that only 5% of players even try let alone clear.

I’d rather the open world content.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Reminds of that notorious quest in FFXI where you had to smuggle goods for the Tenshodo from Jeuno to San d'Oria via airship

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Or doing deliveries to Frontier Stations from Adoulin on foot, before all the KI shortcuts and later zone routes were added piecemeal update-by-update which let you ignore most of the environment blockades/hazards.

one time quest... sure, why not

repeatable? no, not in favour.
bots already have an easy time getting scrips.. no need to make it even easier than it is now.

This would be repeatable weekly. Currently delivery quests require you to craft 6 items you can buy from a merchant and hand them in in less than 5 minutes, something a bot would have an easier time doing already. So the journey would be a less time effective way, however, would yield about 600 more scrips, enticing people who like to travel and justifying the harder work. Also, if the random encounters happen a bot would have to know how to fight effectively but even if they did not bots are not a reason to deprive users of content they may enjoy. We already see bots in dungeons and fights no matter how you report them. I do not see how this would improve or worsen the bot issue in FFXIV.

I actually like this idea, but the issue I have is how you can't fully traverse some areas without flying. What immediately comes to mind is The Peaks and Amh Araeng. With Peaks, if you enter from the north, you cannot go southward on foot, because of the higher elevation in the south. With Amh Araeng, while it's possible to go east to west via that cave behind Mord Souq, it's impossible to go west and east with that same route because of the cliff.

Yesss. Tie to it some camping elements (consumables) and we're good. Maybe to keep up a buff that increases a lil bit of speed? I dunno. I wanna set up a tent, maybe give one fashionable item like an umrella that allows me to do it.

Also,

Instead of the chocobo, lemme use a scooter. Yes.

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

I actually like this idea, but the issue I have is how you can't fully traverse some areas without flying. What immediately comes to mind is The Peaks and Amh Araeng. With Peaks, if you enter from the north, you cannot go southward on foot, because of the higher elevation in the south. With Amh Araeng, while it's possible to go east to west via that cave behind Mord Souq, it's impossible to go west and east with that same route because of the cliff.

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That's where I was trying to bump the idea with mount flavor stuff. Maybe a high peak area needs a mountain chocobo - which you might not unlock right away either to give your noodle some extra progression and thoughts to the area (at first you might just have a shallow stream boco, and you've to examine the map and miss certain quests, but through work in the area you'd unlock mountain walking rank 1 giving you a short period of time to 'climb' a mountain (think skyrim horse lol), which can climb mountains while using stamina or something (to prevent it from being like ground flying, but actually mountain climbing). Or you might have a open stretch area, and if you don't have too much cargo, you could do a running sprint leap that causes you to jump farther than normal (crossing a large distance).

Also, depending on the depth of content in an area, you might be able to construct and repair facilities- adding bridges or stairs, shortcut caves, ramps, secret of mana cannons. . . w.e / etc lol. Wouldn't make sense if you've like 2 missions in an area, but if they utilized Amh Araeng for like 10 repeatable quests that have mutations and their own variants (meaning a lot of possible opportunities), then the depth could be nice.

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Originally Posted by Rofel

Yesss. Tie to it some camping elements (consumables) and we're good. Maybe to keep up a buff that increases a lil bit of speed? I dunno. I wanna set up a tent, maybe give one fashionable item like an umrella that allows me to do it.
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I'd love to see tent and some camping stuff in the game, tents were a huge part of older FF games, and of course FFXV. It would be cool if you could gain buffs and such from having more of a road trip journey. Like if each zone had some basic local ingredients you could make a potent in-that-zone buff (that lasts quite some time, ranging from stat to QoL, like one might be like sprnt speed 100% while another may be sprint duration 500%), similar to how there were food buffs in FFXV, this camp buff not replacing normal cooking food buffs (perhaps if you combine your camp meal your CUL meal will last longer as well). Maybe a sort of zone guide for each area that comes with some tidbits of lore on plants and animals (that you can use for your benefit).

This sounds cool. Although personally I'd like it more if there were versions/chance of being attacked and you or other players doing it together defending the package.

Like the old chocobo caravans pre-ARR, but not as short. And probably no fleeing chocobo shenanigans.

I'd be down for it, giving us a reason to be out in the world is never a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

I actually like this idea, but the issue I have is how you can't fully traverse some areas without flying. What immediately comes to mind is The Peaks and Amh Araeng. With Peaks, if you enter from the north, you cannot go southward on foot, because of the higher elevation in the south. With Amh Araeng, while it's possible to go east to west via that cave behind Mord Souq, it's impossible to go west and east with that same route because of the cliff.

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For the peaks you would have to go around through Rhalgers reach or the fringes depending on the side you need, and for Ahm Araeng you would have to access through either the crystarium or lakeland, These are things that may get you stuck the first time around but an experienced traveler/cartographer would have no issues knowing the ins and outs of places. No zone in FFXIV is completely inaccessible by non-flying non-teleporting (gil based) methods. So one would have to know these things by simply getting to know the land. =P Which, is a challenge in and of itself.

I do like the other ideas suggested here and am not opposed to them in any manner. I was looking for the easiest route to get this implemented though and software engineering for some of the proposed methods would delay the release which gives me less hope. None-the-less, if you do possess a mountain climbing chocobo that can hop over terrain and they build the animations for it it would be neat.

Likewise, if you want to or need to AFK I can see setting up a tent you can sit in and everything that also spawns a safe zone so random encounter don't happen near you while you are parked. But again I dunno the coding aspect. Whereas in the simple version of this idea they really don't have to do anything to the game except put an NPC and script the quests and be done which may increase the chances of it happening. Loving all the ideas though I'm glad there is a demand for this type of activity. I did like traveling in XI a lot. It actually was more memorable than combat for me, however, the complaint, and very valid one was the time, which is why teleportation and flying exist. So I don't think this would take an insane amount of time if its only once a week and on top of it is completely optional for those of us that want a good journey every now and then.

That sounds kind of tedious. But I like the idea of getting out into the world. Maybe collectibles like EQII did. Some could be tradeable so there's a good gil sink and a market for those willing to go gather, and some could be untradeable. Could reward tomes or scrips based on the class you're on when you complete a set.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

That sounds kind of tedious. But I like the idea of getting out into the world. Maybe collectibles like EQII did. Some could be tradeable so there's a good gil sink and a market for those willing to go gather, and some could be untradeable. Could reward tomes or scrips based on the class you're on when you complete a set.

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At first glance it does. But one day I had the time to travel by land because I was making a video and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it. Problem is there really isnt any reason to and this would create a totally optional way of enticing you to do so.

I remember I used to play an MMO called Silkraod Online. The Trader job could make money by traveling across the map to other towns and selling their items to an NPC at a higher price than what they purchased them for. But other players who were the Thief job could hunt you down and attack you, and steal your goods. But this is why you partied with ''Hunters'' to protect you, whose job it was to kill Thief players. This was an interesting dynamic I have yet to see in any game since.

FF14 could have something like this, but instead of other players trying to kill you, maybe difficult mobs could spawn to try to kill you, and you could party with other players who would protect you, but also get a portion of the profit from your trades. I think it would be cool traveling with a band of players across the map on a long journey, and killing all kinds of mobs on the way

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Originally Posted by Shougun

I'd love to see tent and some camping stuff in the game, tents were a huge part of older FF games, and of course FFXV. It would be cool if you could gain buffs and such from having more of a road trip journey. Like if each zone had some basic local ingredients you could make a potent in-that-zone buff (that lasts quite some time, ranging from stat to QoL, like one might be like sprnt speed 100% while another may be sprint duration 500%), similar to how there were food buffs in FFXV, this camp buff not replacing normal cooking food buffs (perhaps if you combine your camp meal your CUL meal will last longer as well). Maybe a sort of zone guide for each area that comes with some tidbits of lore on plants and animals (that you can use for your benefit).

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Yup! When I was grinding for gathering scrips, I was thinking about having some small bonus related to camping on the general area you're flying around, like a small cumulative bonus to Gathering, Perception, GP or GP regeneration.

It could even scale based on how many gatherers you have on your party (1 tent for solo, 2 tents + nice fire for light party, 3 tents + food being cooked for full party).

I know they won't get deep on it but I'd gladly have a tent popping up as a consumable or fashion item.