Luminary and Forbidden Materia

Luminary tools should add to your forbidden materia percentage

Having a Luminary tool should increase all percentages by 10% when using that tool

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I've been thinking about this for a while. I agree.

I'm hoping at some point the luminary tools will be upgrade-able too, so that we can continue to use them forever. (like legendary tools that you can upgrade through merit-based quests and tasks.)

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Originally Posted by Deltara

I've been thinking about this for a while. I agree.

I'm hoping at some point the luminary tools will be upgrade-able too, so that we can continue to use them forever. (like legendary tools that you can upgrade through merit-based quests and tasks.)

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yes... because I don't want to ever have to give up my big ass skillet... or hammers!!!!!!!

I like the idea of using merit quests to make a luminary tool better.

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Originally Posted by Alzelia

I like the idea of using merit quests to make a luminary tool better.

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I do wonder about this...
Because as much effort as it takes to get a luminary... I would hate to have someone get one and the very next day a better crafted tool comes out

ya, you really should be back to using crafted tools only until you upgrade your luminary to the next stage.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I do wonder about this...
Because as much effort as it takes to get a luminary... I would hate to have someone get one and the very next day a better crafted tool comes out

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The L48 tools with double melded stat materia are already better than Luminary so they never really were anything but a status symbol to start with.

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

The L48 tools with double melded stat materia are already better than Luminary so they never really were anything but a status symbol to start with.

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I disagree... stat for stat I'd take Luminary....
Crafting materia stats are SUPER low

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I disagree... stat for stat I'd take Luminary....
Crafting materia stats are SUPER low

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You don't put Crafting Stat materia on them, you affix DEX on Weaver needle for example which makes the L48 weaver needle with ~35 DEX > Luminary for HQing

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

You don't put Crafting Stat materia on them, you affix DEX on Weaver needle for example which makes the L48 weaver needle with ~35 DEX > Luminary for HQing

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Overall I'd still take Luminary... its high in all 3 categories + the 10 in the stat

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Overall I'd still take Luminary... its high in all 3 categories + the 10 in the stat

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Yeah its your choice what you want to use, but was just stating that Luminary are not "the best end all craft tool" in the game. The double melded stat tools are vastly superior to them on any synth L50 or less, while 51-53 synths the 2 tools become closer with the stat tool edging out Luminary slightly for HQing. (obviously Luminary is better for raw success / standard spam if you really don't care if you HQ or not)

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

Yeah its your choice what you want to use, but was just stating that Luminary are not "the best end all craft tool" in the game. The double melded stat tools are vastly superior to them on any synth L50 or less, while 51-53 synths the 2 tools become closer with the stat tool edging out Luminary slightly for HQing. (obviously Luminary is better for raw success / standard spam if you really don't care if you HQ or not)

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To that point then... wouldn't adding 10% to forbidden HQ be a good way to increase the utility of the luminaries?

10% is way too ridiculously high to add to anything involving Materia.

I am concerned about 'Achievement Rewards' having a highly valuable benefit. At present they seem to be on par or only 'slightly' better than other items you can craft or find in dungeons.

To change that would make the Achievement Rewards more than a trivial benefit for those who seek achievement, and change it to a requirement for those who wish to progress skill wise.

That being said, I do not see a downside from implementing a quest or whatnot that eventually yields a reward similiar to that which is described above.