Spells and Abilities to look forward to.

Final fantasy XIV is a MMO and a mainline Final Fantasy. As such it has a lot of recurring names, skills and spells.

What are some spells you would like to see for the healer jobs? For already existing jobs (WHM, AST and SCH), or other possible healer jobs (Such as Chemist, Oracle, Sage, Time Mage and so on.)

Curaga.
I would like WHM's AoEs to be appropriately named.

Otherwise: reraise.
I feel like there could be a lot of fun strat potential with that.

Personally I would love Scholar to have Libra, Kaustra and Embrava.

Libra/Scan is such a iconic spell. I guess we do have Chain Stratagem that serves as a sort of visual portmanteau of the classic skill. (Analysis type of spell)
Kaustra and Embrava are two sides of the same coin, they are SCH's strongest spells in damage/debuff and healing/buff. They could serve as SCH's "finisher", as it's the only job that doesn't have a build-up-burst type of skill.

For WHM I'd love to have water elemental spells, though it seems elemental magick is discarded come ShB. Alternatively we might see a potency and animation upgrade to Holy with "Last Resort" or "Holyga".

For AST, I recall FFIX "Astral Flare" or "Star Flare" spell. I imagine we could get an upgrade to Gravity with a more Astral oriented magic.

I want WHM to get Protect (back) and Shell.
If they're breaking down the regen/shield dichotomy, then WHM will need some more shielding capability.

AST could do with an AoE version of Intersection as well. Opposition would probably be the better fit and then give it another non-opposite AoE skill to make up for it.

I'd like the next healer, specifically Chemist, to be able to fully mix and match shields and regens on the fly, as a kind of advanced AST that's not tied to sects.

I'd like WHM to get water, watera, waterga, waterja, aeroja, flood, tornado, quake, holyga and holyja (I don't recall ever a Holyra or holy-2)
Pipe dream: protect and shell back

Y'know, Iconic spells that all the npcs and enemies get to use but we can't

AST I would like to get lightspeed renamed to haste. Disable returned (a classic time mage spell) Gravira, Graviga and Gravija. Pipe dream spells: Teleport, Comet, Demi, Almagest, Extend (we had time dilation which was basically this)

SCH- Imperil, Libra, Debillitate/Degenerate, Sap (as a return to its dots)

The spells listed as ra-ga-ja are ones I could see as an upgrade. Especially given how poor healer damage is at the present compared to dps as opposed to previous expansions

Glare 5, Broil 7, and Malefic 12. Each expansion has to boost the glow factor ever so marginally.

I'd like to see Float show up as an ability that lets you boost your movement speed and let you cast while moving.

Ast: Starfall, aoe dmg that gives slow
Divine fate, manually select the
card you want
Impending Disaster, 30s timer,
gains stacks every card
used, potency when
goes off 100xstack
number, 30s CD, gcd

Whm: Fastcast, next 4 spells are instant
and reduce gcd cd to
0.5s, 120s cd
Afflatus Burst, 5% dmg up for
18s, 180s cd

Sch: Fey dominion, aoe DoT puddle
centred on fairy inflicts
heavy.
Fey Bonds, use 1 Aetherflow stack
to buff fairy for 30s
then after buff sch dmg
by 5% for 20s

Haste and Temper, where are they?

I dont wanna say Water or Banish or Quake because they're in the game...just not for casters

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

Sch: Fey dominion, aoe DoT puddle
centred on fairy inflicts
heavy.
Fey Bonds, use 1 Aetherflow stack
to buff fairy for 30s
then after buff sch dmg
by 5% for 20s

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A fairy-centered AoE that moves with it, whatever it's effect, would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Lyth

Glare 5, Broil 7, and Malefic 12. Each expansion has to boost the glow factor ever so marginally.

I'd like to see Float show up as an ability that lets you boost your movement speed and let you cast while moving.

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Absolutely. Want to see some mega casual action when the group can avoid ground aoes and cast without penalty. Also reminded me of this
https://youtu.be/bwxkz0dePQw

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Curaga.
I would like WHM's AoEs to be appropriately named.

Otherwise: reraise.
I feel like there could be a lot of fun strat potential with that.

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Originally Posted by Proceedings of the Council of Magi: (log found in the Great Gubal Library

Proceedings of the 284th Convocation of the Amdapori Council of Magi A Vote was called to settle on a Name for a potent and newly-fashioned Healing-Spell. Being that said Healing-Spell was an Augmentation of Curaga, erst the most potent Healing-Spell, the following Names were proposed by the Council. Curago, Curaza, Curaja, Curagura Finding the afore-written Names duly lacking in Gravity and the existing Hierarchy of Spell-Names needlessly abstruse, the Council did Vote by a margin of Seventeen to Three to do away with existing Naming-Conventions entirely and adopt a new system of numerical Spell-Names, as writ below, to be used henceforth. Cure I, Cure II, Cure III, Cure IV

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If you want that sort of name progression, look elsewhere than the English localisation.

I really just want SCH and WHM to have a targeted AOE spell, this point blank stuff just doesn't sit will with me.

A couple ideas for AST: Hastega and Triple. The former could be an alternative to Divination that buffs cast/recast/autoattack times for the party instead of damage, and works the same way with seals. The latter is a cooldown that gives a party member 2 instant casts.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I want WHM to get Protect (back) and Shell.
If they're breaking down the regen/shield dichotomy, then WHM will need some more shielding capability.

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I'm all for a comeback of Protect, but as a different spell, because the previous iteration was just an annoying maintenance buff for the sake of it. For it to work like that, it would have to be an exclusive buff from one of the healers.

Maybe something like the PVP version would be nice.

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Originally Posted by sleepy-bear

Triple

a cooldown that gives a party member 2 instant casts.

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I'm not sure this really belongs in the AST action set.

But if it were to be implemented, whatever job gets it, it should be much more specific to activate and restrictive in its benefit than that. E.,g.:

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Originally Posted by Triple

Grants the effect of Triple.
Duration: 5s

Triple: Grants two stacks of Reverberation upon casting any spell with a cast time. While under the effect of Reverberation, the next time you cast the spell that triggered this effect it will require no cast time and no MP cost. Effect is canceled upon casting any spell other than the one that triggered this effect or execution of any action other than an ability. Auto-attacks do not cancel the effect.
Reverberation duration: 15s

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The 5s duration prevents it from being used to triple raise, though raise spells could explicitly be carved out in the description so that it can have a 15s duration. The rest makes it consistent with the concept of Triple tripling a single spell, rather than being a Dualdualcast.

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Originally Posted by ADVSS

Absolutely. Want to see some mega casual action when the group can avoid ground aoes and cast without penalty. Also reminded me of this
https://youtu.be/bwxkz0dePQw

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Yes so good! Where is float! Would bad still affect you if you are floating? This could be a great ultimate ability if so

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Originally Posted by Rongway

I'm not sure this really belongs in the AST action set.

But if it were to be implemented, whatever job gets it, it should be much more specific to activate and restrictive in its benefit than that. E.,g.:



The 5s duration prevents it from being used to triple raise, though raise spells could explicitly be carved out in the description so that it can have a 15s duration. The rest makes it consistent with the concept of Triple tripling a single spell, rather than being a Dualdualcast.

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This Triple doesn't seem like something you should be casting on party members.

Imagine using it on a BLM... right as they use Triplecast.
That BLM is now forced to repeat the same spell, or at the very least, they've wasted a Triplecast.

BLM - Ultima, a Scathe that isn't a massive joke compared to the FFXII Scathe.
WHM - Cure IV, Protect, Shell, Bravery, Water spells, (return of) Aero spells
SMN - Timelord Trance (i.e. Alexander)
RDM - Verwater / Verblizzard
SCH - gib back Miasma II and Bane ⊂(•̀﹏•́⊂ )∘˚˳°
AST - replace Gravity and remaining "Time Magic" with other effects, to make way for:

Time Mage
- with Haste / Haste III spells
- Gravity is their AOE, AST gets a replacement (like how SCH did with Miasma II -> Art of War)
- Comet as an ability / spell maybe? High potency?

Depending on the role of Time Mage, either in fashion as a Time Battlemage (see FFXII Zodiac Age) as a DPS or a Time Mage healer if we dont get chemist, could see other effects happening.

Please don't comment "But AST is basically Time Mage", you will simply waste your time and I am sick of hearing it. ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

AST - replace Gravity and remaining "Time Magic" with other effects, to make way for:

Time Mage
- with Haste / Haste III spells
- Gravity is their AOE, AST gets a replacement (like how SCH did with Miasma II -> Art of War)
- Comet as an ability / spell maybe? High potency?

Depending on the role of Time Mage, either in fashion as a Time Battlemage (see FFXII Zodiac Age) as a DPS or a Time Mage healer if we dont get chemist, could see other effects happening.

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I don't think they're ever going to do this.
Time Magic has always really been 'Spacetime' magic, that's how it's regarded in Japan.
There's still way too much overlap, it's not just Gravity, but there's also Lightspeed as well, and if reading Celestial Bodies to Predict the Future isn't a form of 'Spacetime' magic I don't know what is.

Now, maybe they could overcome this overlap by making it a caster DPS, kinda like SCH and SMN are both Arcanists in different roles, but we're not getting Time Mage as a healer, we already have that.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

Please don't comment "But AST is basically Time Mage", you will simply waste your time and I am sick of hearing it. ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ

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I say this for the benefit of others reading this, feel free to ignore it yourself.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I don't think they're ever going to do this.
Time Magic has always really been 'Spacetime' magic, that's how it's regarded in Japan.
There's still way too much overlap, it's not just Gravity, but there's also Lightspeed as well, and if reading Celestial Bodies to Predict the Future isn't a form of 'Spacetime' magic I don't know what is.

Now, maybe they could overcome this overlap by making it a caster DPS, kinda like SCH and SMN are both Arcanists in different roles, but we're not getting Time Mage as a healer, we already have that.

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More than that, Yoshi in the past already dismissed plans to implement an actual Haste spell in the game back during the early phases of the ARR Beta test, stating that it would "make the game too easy" - Lightspeed already really fills that role anyway and as you stated AST is basically already glorified Time Mage in everything but name and with cards, this is another nail in the coffin for Haste I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I want WHM to get Protect (back) and Shell.

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Irony is, we actually did have Shell back in 1.0, and, in ARR and HW, Shell was actually still in the game anyway, but rolled into Protect automatically with the 'Proshell' trait, effectively making it the traditional FF spell Wall in all but name (probably due to pragmatism - why complicate matters by providing spell bloat when players would want protection for both physical and magical attacks and just cast both spells anyway one after the other if offered both seperately?). Then when Protect became a healer role ability that was lost.

Personally I'd love to see Protect return, but I think SE has made their choice. Divine Bennison sort of replaces it at high levels anyway, but it's not completely the same (rather than just outright giving increased defence it cancels damage out to the equivelant of a 500 potency heal), so there is hope that maybe one day SE might bring it back for CNJ/WHM, but I'm not going to hold my breath. :(

WHM:
Cleric Stance - returns as a stance that increases damage but slowly drains MP (similar to original Darkside). It wouldn’t debuff heals like old Cleric Stance, and could swap out conjury skills with White Magic versions.
Water/Osmose, for increased mana recovery.
Stoneskin1/2, since I believe that all healers should have access to shielding.
Protect/Shell, as upgrades to Stoneskin when WHM really starts getting into White Magic.

SCH:
Full removal from SMN spells - no more Bio/Ruin. Some examples could be:
Vitriol - Bitter Criticism/Malice, also an archaic term for Acid.
Fervent - Being passionate/intense, also an archaic term for glowing with heat.
Bedlam - Chaos occurring, also an archaic term for mental asylums
If we’re also keeping the doctor-ish theme, we could have mixed damage&mitigation, with:
Phrenolysis (the breaking down of the mind)
Myolysis (the breaking down of the muscles)

AST:
The card system change didn’t work, nor do I think that going back to StB would be efficant.
Going forward I’d like cards to become a rotating set of stances, like BRD’s songs, rotating on a mostly-fixed cycle that you choose.
It’d lean heavily into AST’s requirement for pre-planning and foresight.
Ewer: HP Regen/Heals received up (for the filling of the Ewer)
Spire: Shield (for the invigoration of the tower by levin)
Arrow/Spear: (I need to reread AST’s lore to properly assign effects for these)
Bole: Damage mitigation (from the protection of the Bole)
Balance: Damage buff (for divine retribution)
All effects 15 seconds long with 80second cooldowns (so you have a little wiggle room with changing card order mid-fight)
You’d get a GEO inspired damage buff while a card is active (since each card represents an element) to incentivise always having a card active

Randomness shouldn’t be a big part of healing/mitigating, but it can still be included in a secondary personal DPS kit.
Similar to 11’s Corsair, I’d give AST a blackjack style gambling system with a chance to break for massive damage, or bust for nothing.
That’s where the card-shark name scheme can come in, with Spread (second draw), sleeve draw, bottom draw, etc all making appearances.

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Originally Posted by YusiKha

WHM:
Cleric Stance - returns as a stance that increases damage but slowly drains MP (similar to original Darkside). It wouldn’t debuff heals like old Cleric Stance, and could swap out conjury skills with White Magic versions.
Water/Osmose, for increased mana recovery.
Stoneskin1/2, since I believe that all healers should have access to shielding.
Protect/Shell, as upgrades to Stoneskin when WHM really starts getting into White Magic.

SCH:
Full removal from SMN spells - no more Bio/Ruin. Some examples could be:
Vitriol - Bitter Criticism/Malice, also an archaic term for Acid.
Fervent - Being passionate/intense, also an archaic term for glowing with heat.
Bedlam - Chaos occurring, also an archaic term for mental asylums
If we’re also keeping the doctor-ish theme, we could have mixed damage&mitigation, with:
Phrenolysis (the breaking down of the mind)
Myolysis (the breaking down of the muscles)

AST:
The card system change didn’t work, nor do I think that going back to StB would be efficant.
Going forward I’d like cards to become a rotating set of stances, like BRD’s songs, rotating on a mostly-fixed cycle that you choose.
It’d lean heavily into AST’s requirement for pre-planning and foresight.
Ewer: HP Regen/Heals received up (for the filling of the Ewer)
Spire: Shield (for the invigoration of the tower by levin)
Arrow/Spear: (I need to reread AST’s lore to properly assign effects for these)
Bole: Damage mitigation (from the protection of the Bole)
Balance: Damage buff (for divine retribution)
All effects 15 seconds long with 80second cooldowns (so you have a little wiggle room with changing card order mid-fight)
You’d get a GEO inspired damage buff while a card is active (since each card represents an element) to incentivise always having a card active

Randomness shouldn’t be a big part of healing/mitigating, but it can still be included in a secondary personal DPS kit.
Similar to 11’s Corsair, I’d give AST a blackjack style gambling system with a chance to break for massive damage, or bust for nothing.
That’s where the card-shark name scheme can come in, with Spread (second draw), sleeve draw, bottom draw, etc all making appearances.

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If we don''t get Chemist as healer i'd like to see things like "reverse/bubble/ and especially Reflect(its totally in the BLU carnival) make it as job defining abilities personally.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Irony is, we actually did have Shell back in 1.0, and, in ARR and HW, Shell was actually still in the game anyway, but rolled into Protect automatically with the 'Proshell' trait, effectively making it the traditional FF spell Wall in all but name (probably due to pragmatism - why complicate matters by providing spell bloat when players would want protection for both physical and magical attacks and just cast both spells anyway one after the other if offered both seperately?). Then when Protect became a healer role ability that was lost.

Personally I'd love to see Protect return, but I think SE has made their choice. Divine Bennison sort of replaces it at high levels anyway, but it's not completely the same (rather than just outright giving increased defence it cancels damage out to the equivelant of a 500 potency heal), so there is hope that maybe one day SE might bring it back for CNJ/WHM, but I'm not going to hold my breath. :(

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I'd prefer something like Protect being our Divine Benison, and then Shell being an AoE equivalent.

Protect:
Creates a barrier around self or target party member that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 500 potency.
Duration: 15s
Additional Effect: If physical damage is absorbed by target, then lily progress is increased by 10s.
Recast: 30s

Shell:
Creates a barrier around self and any party members nearby that absorbs damage equivalent to a heal of 300 potency.
Duration: 30s
Additional Effect: If magical damage is absorbed at least one target, then lily progress is increased by 10s.
Recast: 60s

Generally tank busters are more likely to be physical, while raid-wides are more likely to be magical.

While I can appreciate a lot of what people have suggested, maybe some more critical thinking is needed before some suggestions are made. I see a few suggestions for skills that are already in the game just under different names. Like Chain Stratagem is Libra and Lightspeed is Haste. They are skills that fit the lore of the skill but allow it to fit within XIV's world. Also some skills are named differently in Japanese, and are actually the skill we think it is. Like Infuriate is Warcry, Life Surge is Lancet, and apparently Devilment is a Tango? Who knew, lol.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

SCH - gib back Miasma II and Bane ⊂(•̀﹏•́⊂ )∘˚˳°
AST - replace Gravity and remaining "Time Magic" with other effects, to make way for:

Time Mage
- with Haste / Haste III spells
- Gravity is their AOE, AST gets a replacement (like how SCH did with Miasma II -> Art of War)
- Comet as an ability / spell maybe? High potency?

Please don't comment "But AST is basically Time Mage", you will simply waste your time and I am sick of hearing it. ლ(ಠ益ಠ)ლ

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While I won't bring up the whole AST is a Time Mage thing, though were all thinking it. I will point out a few holes you might not realize.

While SCH did get Miasma II replaced, it is still a poison based skill. In fact in Japanese its called "Poisoning Art" honestly they could of just kept the animation and changed the name. My guess is that they changed the name to go along with their military background. Additionally, the Malefic spell line is meant to mimic celestial bodies, and while not all of them are, some have Comets in the animation. I think only Malefic III uses an actual comet though. And well there is of course Lightspeed.