We need Runeknight

so hear me out we honestly do really need runeknight and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't want another sword job...

The reason:
We need a elemental user ( a real user of elements) with en and spike and bar abilities... along with the ability to seal targets ( for interprets or something)

another reason why is our enchantment and enfeebling job options are honestly pathetically low

how it could work
bar abilitys could boost a person defense or powers

for example barwater-boost in envade or regen short bit
whilee enfire boost attack

so basicly all ens would be boost to attack based things
and all bars is defensive

then its attacks could go
Wind sword- Fire sword- earth sword

with dot Venom sword

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

along with the ability to seal targets ( for interprets or something)

another reason why is our enchantment and enfeebling job options are honestly pathetically low

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How would sealing targets work in 14?
For enfeebling I assume you want something more than a token addle/reprisal/whatever, but would that really be useful?



QUOTE=LolitaBansheeMeru;5378281]bar abilitys could boost a person defense or powers

for example barwater-boost in envade or regen short bit
whilee enfire boost attack

so basicly all ens would be boost to attack based things
and all bars is defensive

then its attacks could go
Wind sword- Fire sword- earth sword

with dot Venom sword[/QUOTE]

So, it boosts a person's defensive powers, and has regen? You're proposing Rune Fencer as a tank then?

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Originally Posted by ItMe

How would sealing targets work in 14?
For enfeebling I assume you want something more than a token addle/reprisal/whatever, but would that really be useful?



QUOTE=LolitaBansheeMeru;5378281]bar abilitys could boost a person defense or powers

for example barwater-boost in envade or regen short bit
whilee enfire boost attack

so basicly all ens would be boost to attack based things
and all bars is defensive

then its attacks could go
Wind sword- Fire sword- earth sword

with dot Venom sword

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So, it boosts a person's defensive powers, and has regen? You're proposing Rune Fencer as a tank then?[/QUOTE]

or a support dps either or

and sealing can be used to inturpet so you could seal away "cure" or a physical attack for a short bit so basicly it would "break the single ability" not the entire bar of it so if I seal away Cure 2 they can still cast cure just not cure 2

or it could work by locking the ability and changing what it does to its targets so cureing on a target when you sealed cure hurts them while sealng fire heals ur group

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

and sealing can be used to inturpet so you could seal away "cure" or a physical attack for a short bit so basicly it would "break the single ability" not the entire bar of it so if I seal away Cure 2 they can still cast cure just not cure 2

or it could work by locking the ability and changing what it does to its targets so cureing on a target when you sealed cure hurts them while sealng fire heals ur group

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Ok, I getcha. I'm behind this.
I'm not sure how it would work in Savage/ultimate, but the idea of a support role helping others have more uptime is interesting.

Yes please.

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Originally Posted by ItMe

Ok, I getcha. I'm behind this.
I'm not sure how it would work in Savage/ultimate, but the idea of a support role helping others have more uptime is interesting.

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well I'm sure it would work fine just would be a little bit harder and "big Brain" game play which is something honestly we are missing

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

so hear me out we honestly do really need runeknight and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't want another sword job..

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If we got a rune knight, it would have to be a Disciple of Magic melee DD. I do think we already have too many sword jobs, but I can get over that if it's otherwise something we don't have yet, like a DoM melee DD. I definitely couldn't get behind the idea of adding yet another tank with a large slashy weapon and heavy armor; we already have four of those.

But yeah, if it's an interesting enough novel magic DD, then sure, let's get one of those.

(I'm not saying this because you said anything about it being a tank; just that the last FF to have a rune knight (Rune Fencer) made it a tank.)

I'm down with this. Also, it doesn't have to use a sword. It could use a one handed axe and shield, which is my runeguard's setup in dnd.

I'd be up for a Mystic Knight melee DPS that uses one-handed Hammers/Maces/Axes. But there's only so far it can really go in the 'Rune Fencer' direction.

Considering that Rune Fencer has been cannibalised by Red Mage, which has an enchanted sword combo and some of the same skills as XI's Rune Fencer.

We're unlikely to get any en- skills, because that's what RDM's enchanted melee combo is, just without the elements, because XIV doesn't do elemental damage.
But it could do something around the bar- skills as a counterpart and contrast to RDM's role.

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I'm down with this. Also, it doesn't have to use a sword. It could use a one handed axe and shield, which is my runeguard's setup in dnd.

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It could smack mobs with the elementally enchanted back of their hand. I agree. If they're attacking with magic it could take any number of forms.

I personally want the Mystic Knight in the style of Minwu from FF2, like Bartz's appearance in the class in 5.

Its funny I made Rune Knight and all its abilities as a joke one night when I couldn't sleep and the next time I opened up that doc I was surprised with how well it turned out. Basically its a Twinblade job that shares the same gear as DRG but it gimmick is that it uses Quickenings as its magic. Basically its Gabranth from FFXII but plays more like his dissida version where you want to stay in EX mode to have the Twinblades split into two swords. Basic gameplay revolves around getting your gauge up then entering EX mode (I called it "Awakening") and trying to keep your rotations to build quickening gauge for those devastating moves like Pyroclasm or Fulminating Darkness. Your EX gauge is constantly depleting so it rewards aggressive play and max uptime.

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Originally Posted by Marxam

Its funny I made Rune Knight and all its abilities as a joke one night when I couldn't sleep and the next time I opened up that doc I was surprised with how well it turned out. Basically its a Twinblade job that shares the same gear as DRG but it gimmick is that it uses Quickenings as its magic. Basically its Gabranth from FFXII but plays more like his dissida version where you want to stay in EX mode to have the Twinblades split into two swords. Basic gameplay revolves around getting your gauge up then entering EX mode (I called it "Awakening") and trying to keep your rotations to build quickening gauge for those devastating moves like Pyroclasm or Fulminating Darkness. Your EX gauge is constantly depleting so it rewards aggressive play and max uptime.

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Twin blade as in a single double sword ? or as in two weapons aka duel weilding

My Rune Knight concept was a support melee DPS with what is effectively a Lightsaber and the ability to conjure up Runes of the 12 for buffs.

Also uses the En- spells.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

If we got a rune knight, it would have to be a Disciple of Magic melee DD. I do think we already have too many sword jobs, but I can get over that if it's otherwise something we don't have yet, like a DoM melee DD. I definitely couldn't get behind the idea of adding yet another tank with a large slashy weapon and heavy armor; we already have four of those.

But yeah, if it's an interesting enough novel magic DD, then sure, let's get one of those.

(I'm not saying this because you said anything about it being a tank; just that the last FF to have a rune knight (Rune Fencer) made it a tank.)

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Besides transformation job I don't really have a job I would /really/ like to see, but right next to that is stuff I think would be very interesting and I feel a melee magic damage dealer would be that. I've nothing against if it was chemist or something, I'd still okay and very probably have fun, but I do get a bit exited thinking about melee magic jobs.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Twin blade as in a single double sword ? or as in two weapons aka duel weilding

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ah ya that id love

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God no, that is completely ridiculous. Give them a sword.

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This would be awesome