The Firmament teleport ticket

So...there is a teleport ticket we can buy for 500 (!) scrips to teleport directly to the firmament. Idk what SE had in mind when they set the price for this item.

For example, you can buy some of the rare dyes and sell it for at least 50k gil which gives you enough gil to at least teleport 50 times from your current location to the edge of the universe. Not to mention that emotes and glam sold for more so it's even more hilarious.

So...is it just me going crazy and not getting the sense behind it or did SE just spammed the 0 too much?

You're right, it makes no sense unless they give a large quantity of them for the same price.

The GCs sell similarly overpriced teleport tickets - 2000 seals if I remember right. At that price I'd expect a permanent item, not a single trip.

Perhaps the designers were thinking of different things between the creating and the pricing of it.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The GCs sell similarly overpriced teleport tickets - 2000 seals if I remember right. At that price I'd expect a permanent item, not a single trip.

Perhaps the designers were thinking of different things between the creating and the pricing of it.

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Those are actually not that bad if you are Maelstrom. When you hit Stormblood, I find you start to hit limitations of reasonable ways you can spend your GC seals after you have thousands of ventures and the crafting materials are drying up in value on your world, including the ones you get from desynth. Still not worth it for Twin Adders or Immortal Flames IMO but I'll gladly skip a loading screen for Maelstrom. It is kind of like 14k seals/week luxury service.

Im sitting on the far side of the world(really, anywhere but the entrance to firm or ishgard aether plaza) and i get notice that the next phase is starting(or just started). In this scenario im probly just logging in. Pop the ticket to get straight in and participate in one loading screen instead of 2. For some people the loading time saved might mean they get to participate instead of just missing it. Its a niche item sure, but not totally worthless. Ooooh, or popping it when housing goes up to get into the zone faster to buy?

It's a niche item, but not a completely useless one. What I wonder more about is if the ticket (and the entire scrips shop and appraising, at this point) will stay there once the Restoration is completed. Other housing zones (as it's hinted several times that Ishgard will be one, altough still not 100% confirmed) don't have any fast travel system, except the zone you have a house in, so once the area is restored, the need for the ticket will be under the question.

Plot twist : this ticket is in fact permanent, but we dont know it because nobody did buy it XD

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Originally Posted by Kleeya

Plot twist : this ticket is in fact permanent, but we dont know it because nobody did buy it XD

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I bought it, and no, it isn't permament. Each travel to the Firmament via ticket will cost 500 scrips.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

I bought it, and no, it isn't permament. Each travel to the Firmament via ticket will cost 500 scrips.

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Thank goodness Ishgard is my free teleport-spot since 3.4-times! I would have been very upset to buy such ticket only to realize a huge waste of points. :<

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The GCs sell similarly overpriced teleport tickets - 2000 seals if I remember right. At that price I'd expect a permanent item, not a single trip.

Perhaps the designers were thinking of different things between the creating and the pricing of it.

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And then you realize you can buy those same tickets for like 5 allied seals. . .

I think these tickets are only there for people who do this stuff so much that they have nothing else they want to buy (and don't care about gil I guess).

There are a lot of items that are too expensive for what they do, they are probably in-game just to waste currency when the player has nothing else to buy.


That doesn't mean I support such prices, they should be worth accordingly to their function!.

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

Still not worth it for Twin Adders or Immortal Flames IMO but I'll gladly skip a loading screen for Maelstrom.

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I have adder ones to save me teleporting from The First or anywhere in the east, anything that makes the eorzea teleports 999. Two loading screens but saves gil and I'm cheap enough to do it

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

And then you realize you can buy those same tickets for like 5 allied seals. . .

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No you can't. Those are free teleport tickets. The GCs teleport you to the GC you bought them from only which isn't to any aetheryte. The free teleport tickets is to any aetheryte.

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

Those are actually not that bad if you are Maelstrom. When you hit Stormblood, I find you start to hit limitations of reasonable ways you can spend your GC seals after you have thousands of ventures and the crafting materials are drying up in value on your world, including the ones you get from desynth. Still not worth it for Twin Adders or Immortal Flames IMO but I'll gladly skip a loading screen for Maelstrom. It is kind of like 14k seals/week luxury service.

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Exactly how many retainers and ventures do you have?

Because, I'm shuddering in horror that you're not spending GC seals on Coke/Hardened Saps either to sell or craft your own submarines/other things and instead blowing them on teleport tickets.

Coke and Hardened Saps sell by the thousands daily. I know because I visit every world on Crystal at least twice a day looking for Coke and Hardened Saps. Can go through 3-5k Coke and 2-3k Hardened Saps a week.

Likewise, I'm sure other crafters/submarine builders would love to have more Coke/Hardened Sap up on the MB.

well they must be really expensive to make too since those locations do not have a teleport crystal.

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Originally Posted by TwistedTea

Exactly how many retainers and ventures do you have?

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4 retainers. Now I keep around 1k ventures, buying more when I dip below.

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Originally Posted by TwistedTea

Because, I'm shuddering in horror that you're not spending GC seals on Coke/Hardened Saps either to sell or craft your own submarines/other things and instead blowing them on teleport tickets.

Coke and Hardened Saps sell by the thousands daily. I know because I visit every world on Crystal at least twice a day looking for Coke and Hardened Saps. Can go through 3-5k Coke and 2-3k Hardened Saps a week.

Likewise, I'm sure other crafters/submarine builders would love to have more Coke/Hardened Sap up on the MB.

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Both of those items are worth <500 gil/ea on Primal according to a quick lookup. Even if I optimistically price it to 500 gil, and spent those 14k seals on them, and sold all of them, and had no taxes, I'd get 35000 gil/week, or about 1.8m gil a year. Even if I quadrupled the value to say maybe I looked at a bad time to give you the benefit of the doubt, that's still a pittance.

If you are "shuddering in horror" over how someone is spending a run's worth of GC seals, a trivial virtual currency worth a trivial amount of gil in a videogame, you really need to re-evaluate where you are placing your emotional investment in life.

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Originally Posted by TwistedTea

Exactly how many retainers and ventures do you have?

Because, I'm shuddering in horror that you're not spending GC seals on Coke/Hardened Saps either to sell or craft your own submarines/other things and instead blowing them on teleport tickets.

Coke and Hardened Saps sell by the thousands daily. I know because I visit every world on Crystal at least twice a day looking for Coke and Hardened Saps. Can go through 3-5k Coke and 2-3k Hardened Saps a week.

Likewise, I'm sure other crafters/submarine builders would love to have more Coke/Hardened Sap up on the MB.

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Prices for different materials vary from Data Center to Data Center. Right now (checking via FFXIV companion) Coke costs 320 gil and Hardened Sap costs 600 gil on Spriggan (Chaos, EU). Not the most beneficial deal, if you ask me, Retainer can bring much more valuable materials from Hunting ventures (Dhalmel Hide, which is... 55 lvl hunt iirc, costs 1700 gil atm).

Now some math:

Hardened Sap - 200 GC Seals for 1 piece, 600 Gil - tax
Coke - 200 GC Seals for 1 piece, 320 Gil - tax
Dhalmel HIde - 2 Ventures, 400 GC Seal, 10 pieces with some of them potentionally being HQ, 17000 Gil - tax.

That said, if you want to raise gil with GC seals, where you spend them will depends a lot on a market of your Data Center. Also on how fast prices fall and raise again. Economy of each world is not as simple as "just buy that and you're rich", sadly or not.

The ticket effectively reduces the load screens you have to go through to get to the firmament. We're talking less than a minute saved, but when your FC announces that the FATE is about to start, and you're off in the boonies, that ticket is godsend.

Worth 500 scrips? Probably not, but unless they keep pouring items into that NPC; you'll need something to dump them on eventually I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Esmoire

If you are "shuddering in horror" over how someone is spending a run's worth of GC seals, a trivial virtual currency worth a trivial amount of gil in a videogame, you really need to re-evaluate where you are placing your emotional investment in life.

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Jestful hyperbole buddy. Hakuna your tatas.

But your point about prices varying on data centres and if you consider it a pittance is valid.

Hardened Saps can reach 1k each on Crystal.Coke about 700-800gil each. And the volume which moves daily.

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Originally Posted by Jade3173

I have adder ones to save me teleporting from The First or anywhere in the east, anything that makes the eorzea teleports 999. Two loading screens but saves gil and I'm cheap enough to do it

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I wouldn't call 2000 seals for 999 gils when you can make much more by buying something else a save of gils.

It's kind of like the reagan peppers (for resetting chocobo SP) costing 48k company seals (which was very close to what used to be the maximum of 50k you could carry)... or just a pittance of allied seals; like 20? Something like that.

There's definitely a disconnect somewhere in terms of how these sorts of items are valued.

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Originally Posted by TwistedTea

Jestful hyperbole buddy. Hakuna your tatas.

But your point about prices varying on data centres and if you consider it a pittance is valid.

Hardened Saps can reach 1k each on Crystal.Coke about 700-800gil each. And the volume which moves daily.

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Ha ha. Yeah. I hear you. Guess I am too accustomed to the way people on this forum seem to use exaggeration and hyperbole as a means to try to sound more compelling.

In general, while all DCs are different, Crystal is very peculiar in a lot of ways. It has nearly half as many raiders on it compared to Aether, for example. There's apparently a lot of weird stuff going on with the MB.