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    The Firmament teleport ticket

    So...there is a teleport ticket we can buy for 500 (!) scrips to teleport directly to the firmament. Idk what SE had in mind when they set the price for this item.

    For example, you can buy some of the rare dyes and sell it for at least 50k gil which gives you enough gil to at least teleport 50 times from your current location to the edge of the universe. Not to mention that emotes and glam sold for more so it's even more hilarious.

    So...is it just me going crazy and not getting the sense behind it or did SE just spammed the 0 too much?
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    You're right, it makes no sense unless they give a large quantity of them for the same price.
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    The GCs sell similarly overpriced teleport tickets - 2000 seals if I remember right. At that price I'd expect a permanent item, not a single trip.

    Perhaps the designers were thinking of different things between the creating and the pricing of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The GCs sell similarly overpriced teleport tickets - 2000 seals if I remember right. At that price I'd expect a permanent item, not a single trip.

    Perhaps the designers were thinking of different things between the creating and the pricing of it.
    Those are actually not that bad if you are Maelstrom. When you hit Stormblood, I find you start to hit limitations of reasonable ways you can spend your GC seals after you have thousands of ventures and the crafting materials are drying up in value on your world, including the ones you get from desynth. Still not worth it for Twin Adders or Immortal Flames IMO but I'll gladly skip a loading screen for Maelstrom. It is kind of like 14k seals/week luxury service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Still not worth it for Twin Adders or Immortal Flames IMO but I'll gladly skip a loading screen for Maelstrom.
    I have adder ones to save me teleporting from The First or anywhere in the east, anything that makes the eorzea teleports 999. Two loading screens but saves gil and I'm cheap enough to do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade3173 View Post
    I have adder ones to save me teleporting from The First or anywhere in the east, anything that makes the eorzea teleports 999. Two loading screens but saves gil and I'm cheap enough to do it
    I wouldn't call 2000 seals for 999 gils when you can make much more by buying something else a save of gils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    Those are actually not that bad if you are Maelstrom. When you hit Stormblood, I find you start to hit limitations of reasonable ways you can spend your GC seals after you have thousands of ventures and the crafting materials are drying up in value on your world, including the ones you get from desynth. Still not worth it for Twin Adders or Immortal Flames IMO but I'll gladly skip a loading screen for Maelstrom. It is kind of like 14k seals/week luxury service.
    Exactly how many retainers and ventures do you have?

    Because, I'm shuddering in horror that you're not spending GC seals on Coke/Hardened Saps either to sell or craft your own submarines/other things and instead blowing them on teleport tickets.

    Coke and Hardened Saps sell by the thousands daily. I know because I visit every world on Crystal at least twice a day looking for Coke and Hardened Saps. Can go through 3-5k Coke and 2-3k Hardened Saps a week.

    Likewise, I'm sure other crafters/submarine builders would love to have more Coke/Hardened Sap up on the MB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Exactly how many retainers and ventures do you have?
    4 retainers. Now I keep around 1k ventures, buying more when I dip below.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Because, I'm shuddering in horror that you're not spending GC seals on Coke/Hardened Saps either to sell or craft your own submarines/other things and instead blowing them on teleport tickets.

    Coke and Hardened Saps sell by the thousands daily. I know because I visit every world on Crystal at least twice a day looking for Coke and Hardened Saps. Can go through 3-5k Coke and 2-3k Hardened Saps a week.

    Likewise, I'm sure other crafters/submarine builders would love to have more Coke/Hardened Sap up on the MB.
    Both of those items are worth <500 gil/ea on Primal according to a quick lookup. Even if I optimistically price it to 500 gil, and spent those 14k seals on them, and sold all of them, and had no taxes, I'd get 35000 gil/week, or about 1.8m gil a year. Even if I quadrupled the value to say maybe I looked at a bad time to give you the benefit of the doubt, that's still a pittance.

    If you are "shuddering in horror" over how someone is spending a run's worth of GC seals, a trivial virtual currency worth a trivial amount of gil in a videogame, you really need to re-evaluate where you are placing your emotional investment in life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmoire View Post
    If you are "shuddering in horror" over how someone is spending a run's worth of GC seals, a trivial virtual currency worth a trivial amount of gil in a videogame, you really need to re-evaluate where you are placing your emotional investment in life.
    Jestful hyperbole buddy. Hakuna your tatas.

    But your point about prices varying on data centres and if you consider it a pittance is valid.

    Hardened Saps can reach 1k each on Crystal.Coke about 700-800gil each. And the volume which moves daily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedTea View Post
    Exactly how many retainers and ventures do you have?

    Because, I'm shuddering in horror that you're not spending GC seals on Coke/Hardened Saps either to sell or craft your own submarines/other things and instead blowing them on teleport tickets.

    Coke and Hardened Saps sell by the thousands daily. I know because I visit every world on Crystal at least twice a day looking for Coke and Hardened Saps. Can go through 3-5k Coke and 2-3k Hardened Saps a week.

    Likewise, I'm sure other crafters/submarine builders would love to have more Coke/Hardened Sap up on the MB.
    Prices for different materials vary from Data Center to Data Center. Right now (checking via FFXIV companion) Coke costs 320 gil and Hardened Sap costs 600 gil on Spriggan (Chaos, EU). Not the most beneficial deal, if you ask me, Retainer can bring much more valuable materials from Hunting ventures (Dhalmel Hide, which is... 55 lvl hunt iirc, costs 1700 gil atm).

    Now some math:

    Hardened Sap - 200 GC Seals for 1 piece, 600 Gil - tax
    Coke - 200 GC Seals for 1 piece, 320 Gil - tax
    Dhalmel HIde - 2 Ventures, 400 GC Seal, 10 pieces with some of them potentionally being HQ, 17000 Gil - tax.

    That said, if you want to raise gil with GC seals, where you spend them will depends a lot on a market of your Data Center. Also on how fast prices fall and raise again. Economy of each world is not as simple as "just buy that and you're rich", sadly or not.
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