15 Glamour plates is not enough

There are possibly already several threads complaining about this matter, but I feel the need to bring it up again:

We don't have enough glamour plates.
So the fundamental idea of glamour plates was initially, that jobs that share gear can have different glamours. This idea is nice and good, but with the amount of glamour plates we have right now, players who like to play every job cannot use it as intended.

Currently we have 15 glamour plates and you might say "but the amount was already increased!", yes, but not enough. The problem is, that there are too many jobs that share gear. Those are:

- All 4 tanks (+4 = 4 plates)
- All 3 healers (+3 = 7 plates)
- MNK and SAM (+2 = 9 plates)
- All 3 ranged physical jobs (+3 = 12 plates)
- All 3 caster jobs (+3 = 15 plates)
- All 8 crafter jobs (+8 = 23 plates)
- All 3 gatherer jobs (+3 = 26 plates)

We have 15 plates now. Bottom line: We need at least 11 more plates, for people that want to glamour their crafters & gatherers differently.
If there are more jobs coming out in 6.0 that amount has to be increased as well, if the new jobs share gear as well.

Yes. So much yes.

There's not even enough plates for Jobs, nevermind DoL and DoH classes if all you want to do is use even a single piece of job specific armour on each.

P.S. you forgot DRG, NIN and BLU. They each share some gear too.

I'm pretty sure SE realises it's not enough. They've indicated that they want to give us more, but there is some kind of technical issue - most likely inventory data space.

While I understand there are technical issues preventing them from letting us walk around with unlimited plates all the time, I wonder if it would be possible to tie extra plates to the dresser itself. Cap the player at x number of plates like now, but let us store more in the dresser and allow us to swap them in and out. That would let us have more plates but not overload whatever system currently limits them.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

P.S. you forgot DRG, NIN and BLU. They each share some gear too.

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Uh, what? What gear does DRG share with any job? DRG doesn't share gear with any job. Also, the only gear NIN shares with any other job is ARR raid gear and BLU is always 20 levels behind (and can't wear caster endgame gear), so there is no reason that they require glamour plates. I repeat: The intention was, to enable jobs with endgame gear that share their gear to have different glamours, without having to re-glamour everything manually on every job change.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm pretty sure SE realises it's not enough. They've indicated that they want to give us more, but there is some kind of technical issue - most likely inventory data space.

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Did they? When did they? The last time I heard them talking about giving us more glamour plates was before Shadowbringers and since that increase there was no word about it anymore. Can you give me a source?

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

While I understand there are technical issues preventing them from letting us walk around with unlimited plates all the time, I wonder if it would be possible to tie extra plates to the dresser itself. Cap the player at x number of plates like now, but let us store more in the dresser and allow us to swap them in and out. That would let us have more plates but not overload whatever system currently limits them.

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This is just a band-aid, but this would already help a LOT!

Accessories are shared even at end game.

Also, endgame gear glamour is not the only thing glamour plates are useful for. Why only request 26 plates when you actually need at least 29 to cover every job/class? That's just silly. Or are you suggesting that the extra glamour plates are only needed for people with all jobs at level 80 with only endgame gear equipped?

I'm suggesting that this was the main reason, glamour plates were made to begin with: Jobs with shared gear having different glamours. Around the end of Heavensward people were asking about a feature for exactly this all the time and the Glamour Dresser was SE's answer to this.

And earring glamours don't really convince me, that DRG "share gear" with other jobs. I'm talking about stuff you actually see without having to zoom into the face of the person.

I'm not going to argue with you over this because this is something that SE absolutely should do for far more reasons than just partial end game gear sharing and I do not want an argument thread derailing a perfectly good suggestion. Round it up to 30 glamour plates for an even doubling of the current number and happiness will ensue.

My idea is to bring the Glamour Plates down to 5 per class rather than having a static 15. A little bit of extra work to manage for each class, surely, but I feel this would be an effective compromise rather than just simply increasing the amount of plates available overall.

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Originally Posted by CaptainFishSticks

My idea is to bring the Glamour Plates down to 5 per class rather than having a static 15. A little bit of extra work to manage for each class, surely, but I feel this would be an effective compromise rather than just simply increasing the amount of plates available overall.

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Define "down" and "compromise" when you want to go from 15 to 5x26 = 130...

Personally I'd be happy with 20. That would cover all combat jobs, a crafter and a gatherer.
I know some people like to glam each individual crafter, but I think that's the compromise that has to be made. If you're doing each crafter, you cant do every combat class.

Please add at least one glamour plate per job! I love being able to pair a glamour plate to a gear set, but PLEASE allot (at the very least) one plate per job! Thanks!

Assuming 5 is the standard per xpac, I have reason to believe that we will catch up in 6.0 (the recent xapcs have added 2 new jobs each ... and BLU)

Of course there is still the matter of DoL/H

On another note, Does any think the Dresser needs a search/sort function?

Every job. Enough glamour plates for every battle job and every DoH/L job (at the very least 1 per). I realize that there may be some background technical/coding issues that need to be addressed first, but its not like its some small indie company we are paying a monthly subscription to.

I'd say 30 Plates. Expand Dresser to 1000 items, and expand the armoire for All job gear.

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Originally Posted by Nejiro

I'd say 30 Plates. Expand Dresser to 1000 items, and expand the armoire for All job gear.

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30 would be enough for everything,including 6.0's new jobs...assuming they did add a Limited Job or have 3 new jobs like Heavensward did.

Better go with 35 just to be safe.

SE could have easily just added glam to each gear set but they went an even worse route and made them their own thing. There is no redoing this now which is sad.

I agree "I'd say 30 Plates. Expand Dresser to 1000 items, and expand the armoire for All job gear"

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm pretty sure SE realises it's not enough. They've indicated that they want to give us more, but there is some kind of technical issue - most likely inventory data space.

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(Playstation is the problem)



Plus the game is built on old technology. We need a Glamour Book or something. SOmething we can apply anywhere. Other than a Glamour box or w/e lol Remove the limits!

Please don't blame the PlayStation when you don't actually know it is the problem.
Also aside from the allocation of resources they probably don't have anyone available to code that or look into it. Instead of asking for something come up with a solution or accept what we have and make it work. Be happy that they gave this to us and enjoy it. Not every game can have something like this so try to understand what it is your Actually asking for before you ask for it. It's not easy to code something like this.

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Originally Posted by Karatecatgrl

Please don't blame the PlayStation when you don't actually know it is the problem.
Also aside from the allocation of resources they probably don't have anyone available to code that or look into it. Instead of asking for something come up with a solution or accept what we have and make it work. Be happy that they gave this to us and enjoy it. Not every game can have something like this so try to understand what it is your Actually asking for before you ask for it. It's not easy to code something like this.

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I don't think it works like that though. Yes something like that is difficult to code, but I don't think you can stop complaints and suggestions form popping up from people dissatisfied from the current system. After all people are still asking for Egi-glamours years after the initial tease. It's gonna take confirmation from the devs themselves, (something like "we are unable to add more with this system" rather than vague statements) to stop threads about the topic from popping up.

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Originally Posted by Morningstar1337

I don't think it works like that though. Yes something like that is difficult to code, but I don't think you can stop complaints and suggestions form popping up from people dissatisfied from the current system. After all people are still asking for Egi-glamours years after the initial tease. It's gonna take confirmation from the devs themselves, (something like "we are unable to add more with this system" rather than vague statements) to stop threads about the topic from popping up.

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I am sure even SE telling us that it isn't possible wont stop these threads from surfacing. lol

It would be nice if The Dev somehow implemented a system where we don’t need to keep going to the dresser to change our glamor. Add more plates and allow us to change them in the fly. Maybe even allow us to save the gear we already found in a book or something without having to add it to a dresser. Like a collectible book that shows everything gear we unlocked. From that book all we have to do is right click and add to plates or current gear.

I just want to be able to have separate glams for PLD and DRK tied to the job, so I don't have to swap plates when swapping class even if they use the same set of gear.

I'd just like a glamour plate for each job. No less.

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Originally Posted by Kidria

I just want to be able to have separate glams for PLD and DRK tied to the job, so I don't have to swap plates when swapping class even if they use the same set of gear.

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You can tie a glamour plate to a gearset so you don't need to swap plates each time.

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Originally Posted by Karatecatgrl

Please don't blame the PlayStation when you don't actually know it is the problem.
Also aside from the allocation of resources they probably don't have anyone available to code that or look into it. Instead of asking for something come up with a solution or accept what we have and make it work. Be happy that they gave this to us and enjoy it. Not every game can have something like this so try to understand what it is your Actually asking for before you ask for it. It's not easy to code something like this.

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That's a lot to unpack for such a short post.

1: "PS2 limitations" was a favorite excuse for SE not adding things to FFXI for a REALLY long time, and then it turned out to not really be true later in the game's life. "PS3 limitations" were a STRONG reason for how segmented the game's zones are, so "Playstation limitations" seems like a valid check here.

2: "Don't have anyone available to code..." I'm sorry but they've had months to figure this out at this point. This next patch was already delayed by months because of the pandemic. The pandemic is a thing, it's not really a great excuse now. Other companies (including other Japanese companies) found a way to make it work.

3: "Instead of asking for something come up with a solution or accept what we have and make it work." are.. are you serious? What do you think the forums are for? This is feedback here. It's not even unreasonable feedback. SE already knows the glamour dresser is insufficient as it stands. This thread and other like it contain suggestions for how the system could be improved.

4: "Be happy that they gave this to us and enjoy it." They gave us nothing. We pay for this. You pay for this. We all pay for this. None of this is charity. And btw, the glamour dresser existing AT ALL is because of feedback like this.

5: "Not every game can have something like this so try to understand what it is your Actually asking for before you ask for it." I don't even know what this means. Games aren't slapped together from pre-fab parts or something. They're programmed. And computers, not being magic, can be programmed differently. No one is suggesting this is easy. We know they're working with spaghetti code left over from 1.0, especially in their inventory subsystem. Here's the thing about that: that's not our problem. That's not on the customers to solve, that's on them to solve. 1.0 was a long time ago, it's time to stop using it as an excuse for why they can't do things.

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Originally Posted by Callinon

We know they're working with spaghetti code left over from 1.0, especially in their inventory subsystem. [...] 1.0 was a long time ago, it's time to stop using it as an excuse for why they can't do things.

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Maybe we need another calamity to reset the game lol. Give them another opportunity to update things under the hood like ARR sort of did.
This game's about a decade old. Relaunch it into FF14-2 lol
(I am not serious)

400 slots isn't enough either, and i can barely wear any of the game's helm glam