Is there a hint of a future job according to this character (spoilers)?

Gaia's hammer, we expecting something soon like Time Mage or whatever she is exactly?

Here is hoping will get a Whip Wielder too.

The guest character designer didn't know that 14 doesn't have a hammer-wielding combat job. It was basically an accident.

Mind you, I'd love a hammer job, but Gaia's not really an indication of anything to come.

I'd have to say if Gaia was hinting at anything it would be Geomancer again consindering her name and what happans after each phase of raid+the hammer

I want a time mage, but I don't think she's a hint at a new job.

There have also been hints of a shapeshifting class as well, if you look at what an amaro says when it comes to soldiers changing into beasts, then there’s a fate in Lakeland that hints to it.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

The guest character designer didn't know that 14 doesn't have a hammer-wielding combat job. It was basically an accident.

Mind you, I'd love a hammer job, but Gaia's not really an indication of anything to come.

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This, they covered it during one of the last fanfests where they basically admitted it was a mistake and that they had a bit of a hard time justifying the hammer. Pretty sure the VOD is still up on their twitch account if anyone wants to take a peak themselves, and I know reddit has at least archived the slide thread where translators wrote out everything that happened in English that also contains that particular bit of information.

That said it's been around a year since then, so who knows if they changed their minds or not.

Yes SE please make a job where I can stop having Dancer parties or raids where like 10 DPS are dancers.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

There have also been hints of a shapeshifting class as well, if you look at what an amaro says when it comes to soldiers changing into beasts, then there’s a fate in Lakeland that hints to it.

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I don't see how that counts as hinting as a class, unless everything that ever happens in the story is a hint at a class.

Nero and Godbert Manderville use hammers...what's the big deal exactly? I don't see how it's a "mistake" when there are already other characters that use hammers. /shrug

She comes off like one of the time sorceress' from FF8- I figure a weapon such as a hammer would just be to add a flair to her--- never mind the gorgeous long hair she has that we'll most likely never see released to players.

Maybe BLM will get a Sorceress/Sorcerer option & be given void/time spells & water spells?

I think we've only have had 4 examples so far of jobs being hinted at ingame before announcement(besides The Rising events).

Ninja: Yugiri shows up and fights in a cutscene before the Leviathan trial.
Red Mage: Alisaie during the WoD fight in HW.
Samurai: Gosetsu during the Omega activation solo-instance at the end of HW(Can't remember if samurai was actually announced before or after this).
Blue Mage: Translators said "Prelude in Violet" title was a hint for it.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

I'd have to say if Gaia was hinting at anything it would be Geomancer again consindering her name and what happans after each phase of raid+the hammer

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Normally, I'd say that Geomancer is lorewise, just AST.

But given that they had no qualms with completely destroying all the lore from the AST quests about the significance of the constellations with the new card system, I suppose them retconning the rest of AST's job quests to fit in Geomancer wouldn't be such a surprise at this point.

Especially since they've also got rid of the last of Conjurer in WHM, so Earth/Wind spells are no longer being used by any jobs (Aside from Verstone/Veraero on RDM)

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

Gaia's hammer, we expecting something soon like Time Mage or whatever she is exactly?

Here is hoping will get a Whip Wielder too.

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Given that Gaia was made by the guest designer, rather than SE themselves, it's unlikely that she's a precursor to any new jobs. As the guest designer wouldn't know anything about that.

Also, as far as what she is, she's the Oracle of Darkness. Which isn't really something we can obtain a job in any more than we can get an "Oracle of Light" job where we can be useless like Minfilia/Ryne.

For something to be hinting at a job, you'd want to be looking at the MSQ as that was designed by SE and so could incorporate hints to future content plans.

Personally, I was curious about the whole thing in Amaurot about creation magicks and if that was going to become something we could wield (Though, I guess it sort of represents BLU given that they create physical objects out of aether based on designs used by monsters) - Even with the comments about our ability to utilize it being non-existent (However, this was back before our soul merged with Ardbert's)

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

I'd have to say if Gaia was hinting at anything it would be Geomancer again consindering her name and what happans after each phase of raid+the hammer

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In E8 she seems to be using a time based spell. Just saying. Time mage could be a posibility as well.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

The guest character designer didn't know that 14 doesn't have a hammer-wielding combat job. It was basically an accident.

Mind you, I'd love a hammer job, but Gaia's not really an indication of anything to come.

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This is exactly what happened. Tetsuya Nomura was asked to design Gaia and he wasn't aware that no classes use a hammer in combat. When Yoshida saw the art he was like "oh no one uses this weapon, but we can make it work."

I don't think she is a hint of a new class. She could definitely be made into one, but I think it's also just as likely that Gaia will have a unique combat style due to her very unique abilities as an Oracle.

I would love to see a class that uses giant hammers. Looks awesome.

I don't think they'll make a class that uses hammers. Reason being, they've already given Warrior a hammer weapon and I think it'd be odd if they then went and made a hammer class.

I don't see how WAR having 1 hammer weapon means that jobs we can never have a job that uses hammers as a main weapon. Before NINs was released, PLD used daggers. By that logic, NIN should never use daggers because some PLD weapons were daggers. Then there's also all the different types of sword-based jobs we have in game, but I guess those are fine because they're different types of swords? I don't see why there can't be different types of Hammers.

Anyways, back on topic. I don't think Gaia is hinting at any future jobs, especially this early in the the expansion's patch cycle.

Gaia is a Nomura character right?

Everything she has is purely and aesthetic choice.

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Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe

I don't think they'll make a class that uses hammers. Reason being, they've already given Warrior a hammer weapon and I think it'd be odd if they then went and made a hammer class.

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DRK has a katana

NPC's aren't limited in weapon choices to job types.

There's an NPC in the MCH questline that uses a 1 handed axe paired with their gun.

The leader NPC in Limsa with the name I can't spell uses 2 guns.

Rauhban used 2 1 handed swords until things happened causing him to have less than 2 hands.

There might be more but these 3 came to mind immediately.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

DRK has a katana

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That's a nodachi.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

That's a nodachi.

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Well then the WAR hammer is a ballpeen, and a new job can use sledgehammers.

The Dwarven Mythril Warhammer is more like a maul. (I mean, it's really a totally-made-up fantasy weapon, but.) And miners already use sledgehammers.

I'm a weapons nerd, I can do this all day.

Well, it's not impossible. I think they did state that one of the jobs coming next expansion would be a job new to Final Fantasy, so it's not out of the question.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Well, it's not impossible. I think they did state that one of the jobs coming next expansion would be a job new to Final Fantasy, so it's not out of the question.

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That's the first I've heard of any news about plans for 6.0 jobs. Do you have a source for that statement?

She's litterally a hammer dark knight. Most of her attacks have dark knight names and animations.

Was there ever a hint at future jobs? But, at least Geomancer is hinted in Ast's storyline back in SB
Thats the best your gonna get for a possible 'hint'

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Originally Posted by Iscah

That's the first I've heard of any news about plans for 6.0 jobs. Do you have a source for that statement?

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I'm trying to find the article now where I read it, but I'm not finding it. Must have been one of those articles with clickbait false info speculation, sorry for the misinformation.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I'm trying to find the article now where I read it, but I'm not finding it. Must have been one of those articles with clickbait false info speculation, sorry for the misinformation.

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Rather than for 6.0, they stated back in 4.x that they wanted to eventually do a job completely original to 14. Of course, this was back when we still thought we were going to Garlemald in 5.0, so people came up with lots of ideas for a "14 original" job.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Was there ever a hint at future jobs? But, at least Geomancer is hinted in Ast's storyline back in SB
Thats the best your gonna get for a possible 'hint'

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Well,honestly, yes.before you get to heavenward you see Ast all over camp dragonbone so that was going to come evently, You see the Samuria in hw and the red mage so you knew that was coming. We have dancers since reborn all over the place so you knew that was coming. Both Raubhaun and Griffon are blue mages so you knew they had to add blue mage. And you knew they had no choice but to add gunblades as a job because the entire imperial army basicly uses a gunbreaker all over the place. So honestly every job added has been hinted at. Look at the time line on websites date vs job release and you realize every job has little hints about them all over the place before the job is made. I mean Limsa basicly has a gunner guild (which sadly should have been added with duel pistols ... but they went with cids path of machines... which again is a hint.. I think the only one visually that never had a in game hint was Dark knight. But then again you can't have paladins without have their opposite be playable without pissing people off so dark knight honestly had to be added at some point so


so Honestly they have no choice but to add a hammer job at this point consindering how many characters outside Gaia has hammers visually being used diffently than a warrior fights..

And honestly adding Geomancer now is a must consinder the amount of tease the game does and the lack of a job that honestly focuses on all the elements.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Well,honestly, yes.before you get to heavenward you see Ast all over camp dragonbone so that was going to come evently,

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The Coerthan astrologians are a very different thing to the Sharlayan discipline we learn as a class. They're basically astronomers - they look at the stars, take notes and draw maps - not a very thrilling base for gameplay.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

We have dancers since reborn all over the place so you knew that was coming.

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People dance. That's normal and would happen in any setting. We have not seen anything resembling chakram-wielding battle dancers prior to Shadowbringers.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Both Raubhaun and Griffon are blue mages so you knew they had to add blue mage.

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Um, what.

Explain your logic because nobody has ever made that leap before.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

The Coerthan astrologians are a very different thing to the Sharlayan discipline we learn as a class. They're basically astronomers - they look at the stars, take notes and draw maps - not a very thrilling base for gameplay.




People dance. That's normal and would happen in any setting. We have not seen anything resembling chakram-wielding battle dancers prior to Shadowbringers.





Um, what.

Explain your logic because nobody has ever made that leap before.

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Its not about seeing the weapon being use small hints alone proved they were going to have to do it since alot of people who would play this game has played atleast 1 other final fantasy with jobs like dancer so small little hints like that proves it.


as for raubhuan and griffon 1st He duel wields scimmys basicly a blue mage trait in some ffs second his nick name Bull of the east again basicly blue mage hint ... Griffon Saugan blade Lions etc all of their abilitys have a beast/monster name and has mele abilitys so ya basicly both are blue mages lol

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Um, what.

Explain your logic because nobody has ever made that leap before.

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It's obvious! Griffon was wearing blue...and he had a beard! Blue guy with a beard, a mage! Like Dumbledore but in the blueman group! And duh, everyone knows having an arm cut off makes you a wizard. I dont know how you missed this.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Well,honestly, yes.before you get to heavenward you see Ast all over camp dragonbone so that was going to come evently.

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Those are Astronomers, don't think they are a Hint at a Future job.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

You see the Samuria in hw and the red mage so you knew that was coming.

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Where? You can Argue Alisaie was the 1st red mage before SB dropped. But I dont recall any Samurai, especially in HW

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

We have dancers since reborn all over the place so you knew that was coming.

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Your reaching if you think Scantly clad Miqote Dancing around is a Hint at a Dancer Job. By that logic we should have gotten them sooner.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Both Raubhaun and Griffon are blue mages so you knew they had to add blue mage.

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They have not done ANYthing related to Blue Magic. But I do know that in XI there was a Bluemage under the name Raubauhn. And I think the Immortals or something like that was the group/faction name. Good references and nods to another game...but are not tied or hint to Blue Magic in XIV at all.
And his name is Illbert. :P

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

And you knew they had no choice but to add gunblades as a job because the entire imperial army basicly uses a gunbreaker

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The Imperials do not use Gunbreakers. Gunbreaker is an art made by the Hrothgar (in XIV of course) which uses Aether/Magic Infused Cartridges on a Sword with a Chamber similar to a gun. The Imperials are using basically Swords with Gun Barrels on them. The Main difference is One can Cut and Stab and fire Bullets, the other Infuses the Blade with energy of some kind.
Just like Dancer, if there was a Hint this was coming, then we should have gotten it sooner.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Limsa basicly has a gunner guild (which sadly should have been added with duel pistols ... but they went with cids path of machines... which again is a hint.. I think the only one visually that never had a in game hint was Dark knight. But then again you can't have paladins without have their opposite be playable without pissing people off so dark knight honestly had to be added at some point so

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What Guild are you referring to? Or at the least what did you see in game that looked like a Gunners Guild? And..I guess how is it a Hint at a future Job?
Because the "Gunners" that we got are Machinists. They literally work with Machines, and they Developed guns as another machine to help in ranged Combat in the Ishgard army.
I dont see a sinle point in the game that this is hinted at.
And...I dont think people would be in an uproar if we had Paladin and not Dark Knight. People would just be more mad if we didnt have another Tank Job to play, and it could have been anything other then dark knight. Heck, we could have Gotten that job THIS expansion instead of HW.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

so Honestly they have no choice but to add a hammer job at this point consindering how many characters outside Gaia has hammers visually being used diffently than a warrior fights..

And honestly adding Geomancer now is a must consinder the amount of tease the game does and the lack of a job that honestly focuses on all the elements.

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They could just make Hammer Weapon designs for the Tank Jobs. XD
And nah on Geomancer, give us Chemist. It would be alot more interesting to have a 4th Healer, and Non-Magical Healer at that. Plus it would fit very well if we are going into Garlemald since they can't use Magic.
Btw...did you forget Conjurer & Whitemages use the Elements?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Um, what.

Explain your logic because nobody has ever made that leap before.

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They are actually talking about this fellow
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110913153736
His name is Raubahn and he is a Bluemage from XI. The group he is apart of is also called The Immortals
So its a big nod at a Previous game, yes. Its not a Hint At All to Bluemage being in the game....
Just that another character from another gamer shares the same name...lol

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Those are Astronomers, don't think they are a Hint at a Future job.


Where? You can Argue Alisaie was the 1st red mage before SB dropped. But I dont recall any Samurai, especially in HW


Your reaching if you think Scantly clad Miqote Dancing around is a Hint at a Dancer Job. By that logic we should have gotten them sooner.


They have not done ANYthing related to Blue Magic. But I do know that in XI there was a Bluemage under the name Raubauhn. And I think the Immortals or something like that was the group/faction name. Good references and nods to another game...but are not tied or hint to Blue Magic in XIV at all.
And his name is Illbert. :P


The Imperials do not use Gunbreakers. Gunbreaker is an art made by the Hrothgar (in XIV of course) which uses Aether/Magic Infused Cartridges on a Sword with a Chamber similar to a gun. The Imperials are using basically Swords with Gun Barrels on them. The Main difference is One can Cut and Stab and fire Bullets, the other Infuses the Blade with energy of some kind.
Just like Dancer, if there was a Hint this was coming, then we should have gotten it sooner.



What Guild are you referring to? Or at the least what did you see in game that looked like a Gunners Guild? And..I guess how is it a Hint at a future Job?
Because the "Gunners" that we got are Machinists. They literally work with Machines, and they Developed guns as another machine to help in ranged Combat in the Ishgard army.
I dont see a sinle point in the game that this is hinted at.
And...I dont think people would be in an uproar if we had Paladin and not Dark Knight. People would just be more mad if we didnt have another Tank Job to play, and it could have been anything other then dark knight. Heck, we could have Gotten that job THIS expansion instead of HW.



They could just make Hammer Weapon designs for the Tank Jobs. XD
And nah on Geomancer, give us Chemist. It would be alot more interesting to have a 4th Healer, and Non-Magical Healer at that. Plus it would fit very well if we are going into Garlemald since they can't use Magic.
Btw...did you forget Conjurer & Whitemages use the Elements?

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Go to Limsa go to the maruder guild stop outside the door and look at the flag one is a axe the other is duel wielding pistols a unfinished guild they never really used but should have go down the stairs and you see npcs being trained to shoot duel pistols


Also your incorrect gunblades have been a imperial thing since reborn Guise and many of the imperial troops walk around with gunblades. DO you even pay attention to their weapons?

also they are blue mages not because of a name but because 1st off duel weilding swords with that shape and 2nd off THEIR ATTACKS ARE ALL NAMED MONSTER SLASH LIONS ROAR ETC WHICH ARE BLUE MAGIC BY DEFINATION.

the second The samuria fat dude lands in the port is during heavenward ;p




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETI040rW...name=4096x4096 <this guild look across from the 2 axes its unifinished and unused but it was obviosely made to be a guild at some point.


As for the imperial just pop your msq let and u will see atleast 1 character with a gunblade

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

Go to Limsa go to the maruder guild stop outside the door and look at the flag one is a axe the other is duel wielding pistols a unfinished guild they never really used but should have go down the stairs and you see npcs being trained to shoot duel pistols


Also your incorrect gunblades have been a imperial thing since reborn Guise and many of the imperial troops walk around with gunblades. DO you even pay attention to their weapons?

also they are blue mages not because of a name but because 1st off duel weilding swords with that shape and 2nd off THEIR ATTACKS ARE ALL NAMED MONSTER SLASH LIONS ROAR ETC WHICH ARE BLUE MAGIC BY DEFINATION.

the second The samuria fat dude lands in the port is during heavenward ;p




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETI040rW...name=4096x4096 <this guild look across from the 2 axes its unifinished and unused but it was obviosely made to be a guild at some point.


As for the imperial just pop your msq let and u will see atleast 1 character with a gunblade

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They say explicitly in the gunbreaker quests that the garlean gunblades are completely different to the gunbreaker ones, and the gunbreaker npc is annoyed people conflate the two, so youre wrong here

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I'm trying to find the article now where I read it, but I'm not finding it. Must have been one of those articles with clickbait false info speculation, sorry for the misinformation.

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I know they said exactly the same thing about a year ago when they were teasing Gunbreaker.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

also they are blue mages not because of a name but because 1st off duel weilding swords with that shape and 2nd off THEIR ATTACKS ARE ALL NAMED MONSTER SLASH LIONS ROAR ETC WHICH ARE BLUE MAGIC BY DEFINATION.

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No, their attacks are blue magic "by definition" when they are the same specific attacks used by certain monsters.

Otherwise gunbreaker and dragoon are now blue mages because they use "fang" and "claw" attacks.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

the second The samuria fat dude lands in the port is during heavenward ;p

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That would be post-Heavensward, approaching Stormblood, when samurai would have been well under development if not already announced.

While we're on the topic of Ilberd...

Is there any chance that he was a hint at Gunbreaker?

Specifically, due to his Lionshead skill, when the premier Gunblade user from Final Fantasy is Squall, who has an afinity for Lion head jewelery/ornaments. In addition, the fact that the skill summons exploding swords a term that isn't too far off how one might describe a Gunblade...

/tinfoilhat

Go back and do MSQ roulette and do both dungeons. That scene was purely lore only. Lahabrea describes the hammer of darkness in clear detail and it was a "coming full circle" moment nothing more.