New healer Job suggest

Medic
many people want chemist as a job. so I came up with comprise Medic. Medic is pistol wielded dog loving healer. Medic has ability mix chemist chemical to heal or harm as bonus you get doggie to help the dog can do recue by pulled player out the way or sniff interest herb to help you heal or steal enemy medic kits to help you heal your allies or grenades to harm your enemies.

dog name basic on type of dog

Angelo for example would Australian Shepherd
Aururo would sybrien Husky
Bear Bernese Mountain Dog
Beoren Shibi Inu
Buddy German shepord

Yeah, the devs really don’t want to do another pet class.

SE can't handle their other pet jobs, especially SCH. I don't want another one until they get those two down.

Also a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I don't want a 4th healer either,for much the same reason. Square can't handle 3 healers, and I'd hate to see how they'd ruin a 4th.

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Originally Posted by Savagelf

Medic
many people want chemist as a job. so I came up with comprise Medic. Medic is pistol wielded dog loving healer. Medic has ability mix chemist chemical to heal or harm as bonus you get doggie to help the dog can do recue by pulled player out the way or sniff interest herb to help you heal or steal enemy medic kits to help you heal your allies or grenades to harm your enemies.

dog name basic on type of dog

Angelo for example would Australian Shepherd
Aururo would sybrien Husky
Bear Bernese Mountain Dog
Beoren Shibi Inu
Buddy German shepord

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I honestly do not want them designing another healer until we get the previous three sorted.

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Originally Posted by Billythepancake

SE can't handle their other pet jobs, especially SCH. I don't want another one until they get those two down.

Also a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I don't want a 4th healer either,for much the same reason. Square can't handle 3 healers, and I'd hate to see how they'd ruin a 4th.

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I would be happy with a 4th healer if it meant that the others could be fixed.

There are some who like the current design of healers and many who don't. The beauty of having multiple jobs is they can appeal to different playstyles.

They could shift the current healer design philosophy onto a new healer, perhaps WHM's because it is the best designed of the 3. This would be room to add "Devout" as Krile' s outfit teased, but the design could also be applied to a different theme without being too much like WHM.

Then go back to the other 3 and give back what people loved about them or evolve them in a way that respects what people loved about them.

That means those who praise the current design get what they want. Those who miss the old design get our way. It means those who like how stripped back healers are because it makes it simple, IE: new or less confident healers or those who want a super simple DPS rotation will get a healer that suits them.

I feel this is how it should have been done in the first place. Varied difficulties in healers and each satisfying different playstyle and philosophies.

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Originally Posted by Billythepancake

SE can't handle their other pet jobs, especially SCH. I don't want another one until they get those two down.

Also a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I don't want a 4th healer either,for much the same reason. Square can't handle 3 healers, and I'd hate to see how they'd ruin a 4th.

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A lot of healers going to be pissed if they don’t get a 4th healer next expansion.

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Originally Posted by gman1311

A lot of healers going to be pissed if they don’t get a 4th healer next expansion.

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A lot of healers were also pissed that they ruined the role this expansion. I'd rather have 3 boring/unfun classes over 4.

This seems more call of duty than ffxiv.

I definetely want with 6.0 a 4th healer and 4th ranged dps or mage


Voting for Necromancer as Melee Healer using scythes and Hunter as ranged dps using crossbows.

The point with healers is, that they need to fix together with a 4th healer the sub roles of the healers, while making sure, that they can fullfill all the task of being the main healer properly and to do that in certain content means, that healers need to be able to perform to a certain extent all the same effects with their spells,which is the reason whY many people think that healer jobs play too similar? The problem is, if they get too unsimilar, then will healers that are too uneffective not get played and players kicked, if they play the wrong healer job.

Each healer as to be kind of unique in its kind of sub role, while ensuring, that they are equally potent at doing their main tasks, thats not easy to design without potencially unbalancing them for the sake of their individual sub roles with that healers stand out from each other

I do want a 4th healer, but not if the gameplay stays the same for all 4. Right now playing as a healer is really boring, which is why you see adventurer in need is about 75% healer 25% tank.

We know that Chemist and Necromancer wont be added due to alchemist being in the game and Necromancer being taboo in Japan. With WHM going the white magic route then geomancer may be an option.

But really they need to get the core gameplay of healing right. Make it fun again, the dps options are very very limited in its current state.

I'd like to see one that relies solely on HOTs.

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Originally Posted by gman1311

Yeah, the devs really don’t want to do another pet class.

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Do they still count as pet jobs?

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Originally Posted by Kaiserdrache

I definetely want with 6.0 a 4th healer and 4th ranged dps or mage


Voting for Necromancer as Melee Healer using scythes and Hunter as ranged dps using crossbows.

The point with healers is, that they need to fix together with a 4th healer the sub roles of the healers, while making sure, that they can fullfill all the task of being the main healer properly and to do that in certain content means, that healers need to be able to perform to a certain extent all the same effects with their spells,which is the reason whY many people think that healer jobs play too similar? The problem is, if they get too unsimilar, then will healers that are too uneffective not get played and players kicked, if they play the wrong healer job.

Each healer as to be kind of unique in its kind of sub role, while ensuring, that they are equally potent at doing their main tasks, thats not easy to design without potencially unbalancing them for the sake of their individual sub roles with that healers stand out from each other

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I don't think we're going to get a melee healer. I think that would fly in the face of FFXIV encounter design to have healers that want to be in melee a lot. Any new healer is going to need to be fully functional at range making the melee part kind of pointless, and it's unlikely they're going to give a healer a rdm melee combo with how much they've culled healer dps buttons in general.

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Originally Posted by gman1311

A lot of healers going to be pissed if they don’t get a 4th healer next expansion.

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As a healer I’m more pissed they ripped my DPS tools out of my Scholar and then proceeded to brutalize my fairy on the way out :(

I wouldn't say no to a new healer, or any new classes tbh.

With the caveat that they also do something about the sorry state of the healers we have now. Balance is an ongoing issue, and will be for the life of any game, so there's no point in holding off on anything until jobs are perfectly balanced or we'll never get anything new. By all means, give us a new healer, just don't ignore the issues we already have.

when the ideal of medic I realize it need rgm

so I thought rinoa dog Angelo who help her in her lb. also since US use dogs in combat sometime as do many other country I thought add a dog as service the healer

second I thought chemist that people want through on battle medic could be use as replace chemist plus because are enemy as inaccess to aether they would have medic.

third people like dogs have a dog gain and take medic kits for they enemy to healer or second find herb that they can mix with they potions to make better healing I thought this would be a good ideal

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

They could shift the current healer design philosophy onto a new healer, perhaps WHM's because it is the best designed of the 3.

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Do u really think WhM is the best designed healer? WhM is the poor designed one, just an entire expansion to get what we have now and we get a gauge with 3 lilies which u re force to use even when u don’t need, to unlock a powerful attack. Such design, a job created to let new people get into healer job, which could have been some useful support skills for your allies, as white mage community as always asked for (ally mp Regen, co healing support spells, etc..) to let new players and old players feel useful now brings on a concept of the best damage healer despite we already had scholar which was designed to do that and now is quite poor. Such design.

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Originally Posted by Billythepancake

SE can't handle their other pet jobs, especially SCH. I don't want another one until they get those two down.

Also a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I don't want a 4th healer either,for much the same reason. Square can't handle 3 healers, and I'd hate to see how they'd ruin a 4th.

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Totally agree with that

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

They could shift the current healer design philosophy onto a new healer, perhaps WHM's because it is the best designed of the 3.

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Do u really think WhM is the best designed healer? WhM is the poor designed one, just an entire expansion to get what we have now and we get a gauge with 3 lilies which u re force to use even when u don’t need, to unlock a powerful attack. Such design, a job created to let new people get into healer job, which could have been some useful support skills for your allies, as white mage community as always asked for (ally mp Regen, co healing support spells, etc..) to let new players and old players feel useful now brings on a concept of the best damage healer despite we already had scholar which was designed to do that and now is quite poor. Such design.

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Originally Posted by finnegandadaeon

Do u really think WhM is the best designed healer? WhM is the poor designed one, just an entire expansion to get what we have now and we get a gauge with 3 lilies which u re force to use even when u don’t need, to unlock a powerful attack. Such design, a job created to let new people get into healer job, which could have been some useful support skills for your allies, as white mage community as always asked for (ally mp Regen, co healing support spells, etc..) to let new players and old players feel useful now brings on a concept of the best damage healer despite we already had scholar which was designed to do that and now is quite poor. Such design.

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Healers are useful, they’re keeping the party alive.

I don't think scholar is badly design pet jobs do need work. this why beast master will be a limit job for a good reason limit jobs can be a test bay to improve other pet jobs such as scholar and summoner. even possible Medic basic my suggest with Medic is more basic on what dog can doing as a working dog in really life. like sniff out drugs and bombs as pet job Medic's dog isn't really like other pet jobs mind you more of random game machinac simple and able work with attack could be a ability for a dog too retrieve supply and such.

Kinda expecting a new healer and caster in the next expac just cause it balances out the number of options, ignoring blu and ranged dps.

Also makes sense to me to tackle healers collectively at the same time as developing a new one because then when you're looking at class features/identity/uniqueness they're part of that?

I think Chemist could be a neat one, I like the idea of the class having abilities that are just different items, the various potions for heals, bombs and the like for attacks. A "mix" ability/effect seems pretty cool, maybe complex, could be like mudras or could be like DNC combos where one "item ability" gives you a buff that modifies other "item abilities".

Morale Booster. MRL.

They 'encourage' the other party members to keep pressing on where otherwise they would give up and pass out.

They use the same weapon as BRD, and play REALLY bad music until your health is back up.

I'm honestly not sure the game could actually manage not bringing out a new healer. New jobs are what sell the expansions because they're not only the easiest thing to explain to people about an expansion, but also the one part of an expansion that is fully tangible to players as the lenses through which we see the game. Those lenses for healers will be pushing eight years old by the time 6.0 rolls around, and without a new job to revitalize the hardest role in the game (and maybe some other incentives offered), I'd genuinely expect FFXIV healers to wind up on the endangered species list.

As for next healer, no it won't be a pet job because scholar takes that spot (more or less), it won't be melee unless it's only for doing damage, and it'll most likely follow the same template that every other healer job works off of. Something like a Medic or any other alchemical-themed job is a possibility, but not with a pet.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

I'm honestly not sure the game could actually manage not bringing out a new healer. New jobs are what sell the expansions because they're not only the easiest thing to explain to people about an expansion, but also the one part of an expansion that is fully tangible to players as the lenses through which we see the game. Those lenses for healers will be pushing eight years old by the time 6.0 rolls around, and without a new job to revitalize the hardest role in the game (and maybe some other incentives offered), I'd genuinely expect FFXIV healers to wind up on the endangered species list.

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An interesting point I saw elsewhere was that Healer is the only role you can't switch to at a previous level cap at this point which could be a factor.
You can start any of the other roles at 50 (SAM/RDM) or 60 (GUN/DNC) but healer you need to level from at least 30, unless you happened to level SMN of course, which can make it a bigger investment to just try it out unless you buy a level skip.