As a healer doing duties, there is no greater joy than...

... having bad teammates and especially a bad tank.

Yes. I am serious. I'll take any fellow novice that plays "catch the red circle" over any overgeared pro that rushes through the dungeon in mental auto mode without question.

Nothing against a fast run, but that's just grind. It can't beat the fun of barely making it and knowing you had to put in some serious effort.

To all scrubs and noobs, if you try to have my back, I'll make sure to have yours any time of the day.

Have fun! :p

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry.-Let-s-vent.

Here you go. No need to treat the forums like your personal blog!

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry.-Let-s-vent.

Here you go. No need to treat the forums like your personal blog!

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Personal blogging aside; I think the post was aimed more a healing being more engaging when players are derping than actually venting about poor play, which I find to be 100% true. It doesn't mean it's ok to stand in bad. It means that it's bad that it's ok to stand in bad.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Personal blogging aside; I think the post was aimed more a healing being more engaging when players are derping than actually venting about poor play, which I find to be 100% true. It doesn't mean it's ok to stand in bad. It means that it's bad that it's ok to stand in bad.

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The vent thread isn’t exclusively for venting. Good stories and posts like this are also appropriate.

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Originally Posted by Belgianbeer

... having bad teammates and especially a bad tank.

Yes. I am serious. I'll take any fellow novice that plays "catch the red circle" over any overgeared pro that rushes through the dungeon in mental auto mode without question.

Nothing against a fast run, but that's just grind. It can't beat the fun of barely making it and knowing you had to put in some serious effort.

To all scrubs and noobs, if you try to have my back, I'll make sure to have yours any time of the day.

Have fun! :p

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But... If you're a noob and the tank is pulling lots of things, you are likely "barely making it and putting in serious effort" to keep them alive.

Plus, the entire game is pretty much "just grind". It's an mmo, that'd what mmos do.

I personally take it as a challenge. Ie, Can I keep this overgeared tank alive that pulls from wall to wall without a CD? Or this baby tank, who is nowhere near geared for this duty? Dps cant keep up with the mobs and the tank is taking some severe damage, let's see if I can keep everyone alive? Or the good ol' stand in everything mentality. Let's see how well I can manage my UGH! Or one of my personal favorites: can I out dps the tank or dps while keeping everyone in one piece. XD Honestly, you can make anything a grind with the wrong mentality, but a challenge and personal drive will keep you equally frustrated, but entertained.

Ahaha, phone auto corrected ogh to ugh.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

Personal blogging aside; I think the post was aimed more a healing being more engaging when players are derping than actually venting about poor play, which I find to be 100% true. It doesn't mean it's ok to stand in bad. It means that it's bad that it's ok to stand in bad.

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That's completely accurate. I see so many threads/comments about people complaining that their mates don't know the dungeon or don't know their role/job.
That's their thing and that's ok.

My thing is when people are trying but things go wrong and you're feeling the extra pressure which wakes your inner demon and you refuse to let anybody die.
There is fun in failure and chaos. I think that's a message worth highlighting.

It does always feel good to save a run. I have actually switched to being a RDM main, so I can rez when both healers die >. >

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry.-Let-s-vent.

Here you go. No need to treat the forums like your personal blog!

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Are you a mod here?
Thread fits this subforum.

The best is when you find the tank wearing gear 10 to 20 levels below what they our and blame you the healer for them dying and get kicked over it. Lost count how many times that's happened to me. Healers get treated like garbage.

I mean that's a big mood in like trials or raids. Sometimes they just go too well and you leave feeling unfulfilled because you've just spent the entire time spamming glare/broil/malefic.

As far as dungeons go, however, i like it better when people know what they're doing so we can be in and out in 10 to 15 minutes. This in mind, there is a surprising amount of fresh 80's who managed to bypass the part of the MSQ where they literally send you to pick up free 430 gear. Like how do you even miss that? Why are you dpsing in expert roulette with ravel keeper gear? WHY IS THIS RUN TAKING 30 MINUTES?

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Originally Posted by hynaku

The best is when you find the tank wearing gear 10 to 20 levels below what they our and blame you the healer for them dying and get kicked over it. Lost count how many times that's happened to me. Healers get treated like garbage.

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This is why it pays to be a salt mage. Assert dominance over the group. Let your spite alone keep people alive.

This is what savage and extreme fights are for. You shouldn't be struggling in roulette. Wall to wall pulls are the norm, you're supposed to just rush through these and get your tomes and move on.

If you want to put in some serious effort hop into a PF for e2s where nobody knows what quietus is.

I know the feeling.

It's very repetitive and boring when every dungeon run just happens the same way, smoothly without any problems. It's more a chore to repeat than anything else.
There's more fun when something unusual happens, players struggling with a fight or even with just the pulls - and I agree that it's quite a fun challenge as a healer to put in the extra effort to get them through it.
Can also be fun if somehow people start chatting for some reason, rather than just silently going through it like programmed robots doing their job. ...even if they for some reason end up fighting or flaming each other, can be quite amusing at times (eating imaginative popcorn while reading along and healing, or trying to calm them down).

In general it's more fun when you feel like you're playing with people, with their faults and randomness rather than just hamsters doing their daily wheel-run in silence.

.. well, that's just my opinion.

Yeah I never understood the complaints about bad party members "stressing" the healer in normal content. It's exhilarating, not stressful.

I would agree, but I only exchange my one button dps action for a one button heal in most of these cases... so eh?

I get what you're saying about healing the 'pros' being boring.

But tbh im the overgeared tank running constantly on autopilot lol, what can i say, gotta get my deepshadow gear somehow

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Originally Posted by Reinha

Yeah I never understood the complaints about bad party members "stressing" the healer in normal content. It's exhilarating, not stressful.

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I think that can be inversely related to the level of the content, and thus how many tools the healer has/how creative they can get in dealing with things. I know it is for me, at least, and for various other healer-main friends I've spoken to.

A disaster tank in Grand Cosmos who leaves me feeling like I've just been through an action sequence in an adventure movie can be exhilarating; I remember those runs a lot more vividly—and a lot longer—than I do the smooth ones. A disaster tank in Sastasha, though, I have very few options for dealing with; I'll still finish the run and keep them up, but it mostly becomes "how quickly can I spam the same low-level heal" rather than an intricate and exhilarating dance of a dozen different things like it would be in Grand Cosmos.

This is why pugging Mythic+ was the best. Nothing teaching healing like cascading mistakes in a challenging environment.

Hail the noob

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Originally Posted by Belgianbeer

... having bad teammates and especially a bad tank.

Yes. I am serious. I'll take any fellow novice that plays "catch the red circle" over any overgeared pro that rushes through the dungeon in mental auto mode without question.

Nothing against a fast run, but that's just grind. It can't beat the fun of barely making it and knowing you had to put in some serious effort.

To all scrubs and noobs, if you try to have my back, I'll make sure to have yours any time of the day.

Have fun! :p

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I prefer a game where the players are good, but the healer still has trouble healing, because the game itself gives the player a proper challenge. Rather than carrying an entire party, for them to blame you specifically when something goes wrong and or not even have the commen courtesy to hand out a single commendation for all the time you spent (sometimes going on 40+ minutes in dungeons) with the group.