24 MAN RAID (FF7 REMAKE)

Just figured i'd post this here as an idea. I don't know if this was already brought up but with the FF7 Remake around the corner i would like to see a collaboration in the form of a 24 man raid like they did Nier Automata/FFT, etc. The raid can take place in Midgar as we try to blow up the reactor and make our way to the headquarters. I would love to see something like this.

Eh if we did ff7 theme raid there is a better thing to do than the blowing up reactiors like the Jenova bosses In clouds home town leading up the mountain which leads to Sephiorth lol The reactiors were kind of lame and only had two moments.

Please, no.

FF7 is one of there biggest sellers they will make a FF7 based raid when you factor in FF6 was done FF7 will most likely be next and on top of that FF7 remake is so close to release they would be dumb not to do it.

were getting Ruby Weapon which is the FF VII nod were going to get.

For the love of god, no. If FFVII was a cow, we'd have to go to the store for milk.

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Originally Posted by Wiccan026

were getting Ruby Weapon which is the FF VII nod were going to get.

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really thats lame all we need is another booring lame trashy Robot fight we need more living creature fights not more "its a robot yay for another a machine" I sware all the machiens are basicly the same and not enjoyable at all.

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Originally Posted by Gemina

For the love of god, no. If FFVII was a cow, we'd have to go to the store for milk.

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Don't see why people say no. FFXIV is a fanbase MMO. We already have Materia and the Gold Saucer from FF7. With the FF7 Remake there IS most likely going to be something else added like a raid, possibly. And even though you say no, you're still going to play it if they release something.

there will be no 24 man FFVII raid. we get the weapon series in trials form. that'll be it. maybe a small crossover event.

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Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru

really thats lame all we need is another booring lame trashy Robot fight we need more living creature fights not more "its a robot yay for another a machine" I sware all the machiens are basicly the same and not enjoyable at all.

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Except the Weapons are biological in FF7, and biomechanical in XIV. Heck, Ruby looks almost exactly like its 7 counterpart.

That said, we don't need a 24-man raid. The Weapons trial series is enough of a send-off seeing as we already have the Gold Saucer, Nael is a Sephiroth expy... I'd be fine with a JENOVA boss but a full 24-man? Nah thanks.

No.

Purely for the reason I'd rather not see Sephiroth or a talking lion telling me what to do, especially when we've already beaten Ultima Weapon so Midgar is safe.

Though, the parallel with the Meteor in 7 and the end of FFXIV 1.0 may be cathartic by proxy. But that's up to the people that played 1.0. But I still stand by my point before. We don't need more Sephiroth Clones. We already have plenty.

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Don't see why people say no. FFXIV is a fanbase MMO. We already have Materia and the Gold Saucer from FF7.

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That's why it's no. With Weapons Trials, we have already enough FF7 in FF14. AND I guess devs prepare a crossover event like FF13/FF15 for the release.

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Originally Posted by Kenky

No.

Purely for the reason I'd rather not see Sephiroth or a talking lion telling me what to do, especially when we've already beaten Ultima Weapon so Midgar is safe.

Though, the parallel with the Meteor in 7 and the end of FFXIV 1.0 may be cathartic by proxy. But that's up to the people that played 1.0. But I still stand by my point before. We don't need more Sephiroth Clones. We already have plenty.

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Isn't Zenos basically a clone.port of Sephiroth?

Haven't been following the news. Is the game still being released in parts? If so, still plenty of time to continue adding more content based on it.

We wouldn't get another alliance raid until 6.0 anyway, since we still have two more Nier raids. By that point, it won't be as relevant anymore.

I'd rather see 9 get some love, personally.

Maybe by the time the PS4 timed exclusive period is over they'll do something even if just a short cross over. Considering FF7R is gonna be episodic and the amount of time it is taking them to release the first one I'm sure they'll have like a decade to implement something if this game is still chugging along by then before it completely fizzles out.

So you telling me that;
-Meteor like event of 1.0
-Ultima weapon
-King Thordan
-Scorpion robot
-City of the Ancients
-Hades
-Cloud's bike
-Advent Cloud's outfit
-Cloud,Tifa,Aerith minions
And the new trial series.

Were not enough fan service for FFVII :P

They will probably have a reference to FFVII in the last part of each expansion until the game dies as is tradition while off adapting whatever for ffxiv more :P

Personally I'd like to see more FFIV, IX or X stuff since they aren't as heavily used as the others have been and that is if they must have fan service.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

So you telling me that;
-Meteor like event of 1.0
-Ultima weapon
-King Thordan
-Scorpion robot
-City of the Ancients
-Hades
-Cloud's bike
-Advent Cloud's outfit
-Cloud,Tifa,Aerith minions
And the new trial series.

Were not enough fan service for FFVII :P .

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Not to mention Costa Del Sol and the Gold Saucer. lol We have two entire maps that are a tribute to VII, but I guess people are conveniently forgetting about it.

No for the simple fact 7 was a mediocre RPG. Take off the Rose colored nostalgia glasses just because it was 90% of people first RPG doesn't make it this end-all be all game.

7 gets way too much praise just because it came out at the right time and had the right advertising.

Xenogears absolutely destroys 7s story and gameplay. Not to mention countless other Rpgs in the psx era did.

No thanks. Also what’s the obsession with 24 man raids? If anything those are the most annoying to do in this game.

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Originally Posted by jameseoakes

Isn't Zenos basically a clone.port of Sephiroth?

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Not really. While both do have long hair and fill the "Angsty edgelord" role, Zenos isn't hell-bent on worldwide conquest or galactic domination. He just wants to fight the strongest and continue getting stronger. He isn't like other Garleans, who think it's their god-given right to control all of Eorzea, because they're descendants of morons that sacrificed themselves to a god of destruction (as per their creation) and now must punish every other race, due to their own shortcomings.

No, I'm not still salty they have cool robes, Shut up!

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Originally Posted by EtherRose

Don't see why people say no. FFXIV is a fanbase MMO. We already have Materia and the Gold Saucer from FF7. With the FF7 Remake there IS most likely going to be something else added like a raid, possibly. And even though you say no, you're still going to play it if they release something.

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On the contrary, I have next to zero interest in the remake, and I grew up on early FF titles released in America like VII. My reluctance also isn't just due to how overly saturated the franchise has become with releases related to VII; it also comes from an awareness of time. Nier Automata is already established as the 24-man colab for this expansion, and between now and the next expansion there is no telling which game - if even a FF title would be the most fitting for the next raid. On top of that, there are already the call backs you mentioned such as materia, and the Gold Saucer. Plus, we are also getting the weapons as our next set of trials.

To me, the question quickly becomes why use more VII when there are other, untapped wells to draw from? I'm still waiting for major callbacks to FFIV, which is another very popular FF title. It would have been the perfect choice for the 24-man back in HW that was so focused on the DRG job, and also bringing DRK into the game. Better late than never, I say. However, collabs in FFXIV seem to always be with other franchises, not other FF titles.

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Originally Posted by kazzel120

No for the simple fact 7 was a mediocre RPG. Take off the Rose colored nostalgia glasses just because it was 90% of people first RPG doesn't make it this end-all be all game.

7 gets way too much praise just because it came out at the right time and had the right advertising.

Xenogears absolutely destroys 7s story and gameplay. Not to mention countless other Rpgs in the psx era did.

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I am sorry that you are angry because your niche game is not more popular, I really do feel for you as a Breath of Fire fan.

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Originally Posted by kazzel120

No for the simple fact 7 was a mediocre RPG. Take off the Rose colored nostalgia glasses just because it was 90% of people first RPG doesn't make it this end-all be all game.

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Thank you, I thought I was the only one.

Id love it if one day we got a mortal Kombat crossover of some kind, that's my wish for crossovers, but an ff 7 of some kind wouldn't be bad.

Why the hate for FF7? We already have other titles as fan service in here and the last 24 man is a basic love letter to tactic fans. I say why not, lets have a fun 24 man based on some FF7 stuff. It's not like we already don't have things in the game thats from 7 and other games anyway. What's so wrong with a 24 man too? And no 7 wasn't my first jrgp.. my first would be breath of fire. Just pointing that out there. This reminds me of the old school sonic vs sonic adventure debate. Where people would say if you like sonic adventure you were a -new- fan. I always hated that point, I like Sonic adventure and FF7 and those were not my first games ever.

Ye but iirc, we haven't a lot of FFXII/Tactics references in the game. Maybe just the Sky Pirates for lvl 60 24 man raid as far as I remember.

We'll get the new trials based on FFVII and you want a 24 man raid too ? Guys ? Really ? Rename "Shadowbringers" into "FF7 Legacy" in that case.
Just to be clear, I have nothing special against FF7, I liked it. But it is fanaticism to want too much. Just to remind:

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

So you telling me that;
-Meteor like event of 1.0
-Ultima weapon
-King Thordan
-Scorpion robot
-City of the Ancients
-Hades
-Cloud's bike
-Advent Cloud's outfit
-Cloud,Tifa,Aerith minions
And the new trial series.

Were not enough fan service for FFVII :P

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Originally Posted by Canada_bangs

Why the hate for FF7?

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Because 7 is seen as "mainstream", so hating on it makes you look edgy and cool.

I don't hate 7, but after all the attention it's gotten over the years, I'm tired of it.

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Originally Posted by Kenky

No.

Purely for the reason I'd rather not see Sephiroth or a talking lion telling me what to do,
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Wait you're complaining about talking lions despite that already exists with Hrotgar?

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Originally Posted by Sheli54

Ye but iirc, we haven't a lot of FFXII/Tactics references in the game. Maybe just the Sky Pirates for lvl 60 24 man raid as far as I remember.

We'll get the new trials based on FFVII and you want a 24 man raid too ? Guys ? Really ? Rename "Shadowbringers" into "FF7 Legacy" in that case.
Just to be clear, I have nothing special against FF7, I liked it. But it is fanaticism to want too much. Just to remind:

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No because none of that is an epic 24 man raid... it's different. The raid would be bigger then some costumes, pets and an area people rarely go too.

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Originally Posted by Metalwrath

Wait you're complaining about talking lions despite that already exists with Hrotgar?

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The Ronso are cool and not entirely "talking lions". They're like furry Roegadyns, unlike Red XIII which is literally a talking lion. Or Tiger.. A talking cat, you know what I mean!

(I refuse to call Ronso anything other than Ronso, purely because I hate the word Hrothgar. Sounds dumb.)

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Originally Posted by Kenky

(I refuse to call Ronso anything other than Ronso, purely because I hate the word Hrothgar. Sounds dumb.)

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It's worth noting that Hrothgar was the name of a king from the story of Beowulf. Not saying you have to like it, just that SE didn't make it up.

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Originally Posted by Canada_bangs

No because none of that is an epic 24 man raid... it's different. The raid would be bigger then some costumes, pets and an area people rarely go too.

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I mean, by your logic, once the following expansion lands, nobody will go to FF7's raid. Alliance raids always suffer due to Lab and Syrcus Exist due to item level cheese. How many people now a days still have Ivalice pending because they joined in ShB and likely wait for hrs to see a queue happen? Its a common thing.

If the "extreme" fights will be themed around the weapons of FF7 or maybe something else, that is something that can be an easy experience by comparison of a 24 Man. But hey, the raid will have more costumes, pets and will become an area people rarely go to once its not the "current thing".