Pvp rewards

Is it possible you guys can make other possible ways to get feast top 100 rewards for example trading in wolf marks for them its really unfair to other being pitted against high ranking for a chance to get those rewards not only that I know numerous of people in feast who make themselves alts and climb using that feeling up the top 100 spots from other people can u please change the way this works

So basically you saying that people from top100 is better than you and this is unfair?
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I'd like to be able to get old stuff, maybe in different colors so the ancient ones aren't mad. I have like 50 collars unused. For you though, you just need to dance and stop trying to red mage.

The irony is a lot of those players who you claim can't get spots because of alts tend to only climb because those alts carry them in the first place. Also if alts are the difference between you being in a top 100 spot and not getting it, then you're just bad.

Unfair? What will be the point of Feast if anyone can do a few Frontline matches and buy the same rewards with wolf marks? Wouldn't it be unfair to those who struggled through hundreds of Feast matches to get them? It'll be the death of this game mode instantly. Exclusive rewards is the only reason most players bother with it at all as it's not excactly fun on its own.

And while we're at it make it so that I get tokens every wipe I get on an ultimate so I can eventually trade it in for an ultimate weapon. Phase 1 wipe =1 token phase 2= 2 tokens, etc.

>Uses alts argument, when that's really not the issue in getting into top-100

How about we allow tomes or better yet wolf marks to trade-in for savage mounts too while we are at it?

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Originally Posted by technole

>Uses alts argument, when that's really not the issue in getting into top-100

How about we allow tomes or better yet wolf marks to trade-in for savage mounts too while we are at it?

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Most of the actual good ideas I've heard about this involve the old season mounts and armors being released to the general populace for some achievement or currency, but only after the reward has been exclusive to top 100 rewards for a certain period of time, letting them retain exclusivity for a bit and then be obtainable afterward.

Which is a good and nuanced way to go about it and directly mirrors being able now to go into unsynced savage raids for their mounts? I don't recall any PvP mains being angry that you could unsync A4S or A12S for the gobwalker or arrhidaeus, but bring up the idea that you should be able to get PvP mounts or armor that have been completely unobtainable for three years and folks go ballistic.

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Originally Posted by Aurida

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Originally Posted by Kaiche

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Sorry, did you come prepared with an actual argument for why they shouldn't be comparable, or did you just have that image saved and feel a need to use it?

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Originally Posted by Aurida

Sorry, did you come prepared with an actual argument for why they shouldn't be comparable, or did you just have that image saved and feel a need to use it?

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I do, This is so beaten to death in every form so i will make it brief and not waste my time. Simply put; PVE is against AI, PVP is against Players in a competitive environment, you dont get a trophy then others get the same trophy you earned in a Ranked season by doing trivial tasks or grind It doesn't make sense at all and if you can't understand that then it's a waste of time and you dont play or understand ranked pvp in any game.

What players can ask however is for more rewards outside of the season or more different items for collars for playing ranked feast, It amazes me how many people dont understand the difference.
Also this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Feast-Rewards /thread

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Originally Posted by Kaiche

I do, This is so beaten to death in every form so i will make it brief and not waste my time. Simply put; PVE is against AI, PVP is against Players in a competitive environment, you dont get a trophy then others get the same trophy you earned in a Ranked season by doing trivial tasks or grind It doesn't make sense at all and if you can't understand that then it's a waste of time and you dont play or understand ranked pvp in any game.

What players can ask however is for more rewards outside of the season or more different items for collars for playing ranked feast, It amazes me how many people dont understand the difference.
Also this: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Feast-Rewards /thread

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Literally you could make that same argument about doing a savage or ultimate fight while it's relevant, but I'll also make it brief and not waste my time and say that you simply don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Aurida

Literally you could make that same argument about doing a savage or ultimate fight while it's relevant, but I'll also make it brief and not waste my time and say that you simply don't get it.

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Again, Its PVE NOT PVP, you dont even have the foresight to see what would happen to the core ranked mode if you did what you said, imagine thinking doing the casual side of the mode(s) equates to competing in a ranked season smh, you cant be helped. keep wishing upon a star dude. Play some pvp games while you're at it cos u clearly dont have a scooby pve boyo.

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Again, Its <current raids> not <old raids>, you dont even have the foresight to see what would happen to the core <relevant raid tier> if you did what you said, imagine thinking doing the <unsynced, outgeared tier> of the <content>(s) equates to competing in <savage prog> smh, you cant be helped. keep wishing upon a star dude. Play some <completely irrelevant rhythm games> while you're at it cos u clearly dont have a scooby <pvp main>.

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We can sit here and play mad libs all day with each other but it doesn't change the fact that it's a dumb argument! No one is asking for the FRC titles or the #1 trophies or whatever else. Heck, you can keep your <eversharp> or whatever the other titles. Display 'em with pride if you want! But you know what the cool thing about the other stuff is, the <eversharp> or the <wings of fire> or the <alpha wolf> or whatever is? The fact that they're still in game with an achievable pathway to obtaining them. As is, uh, every single non-legacy PvE reward that's ever been implemented?

But as it is, anyone who actually wants to get into ranked PvP comes on here, they see the words you have written, and they say 'oh so if you didn't play the game two years ago and do pvp AND be one of the top 100 characters on your data center then then you just don't get to have this cool thing? Ever?' and this does nothing to get them into the content so they don't. But if there were actual, achieveable rewards that didn't feel like an insurmountable wall with a game mode that barely bothers to explain how to play it, let alone how to excel? Maybe you folks would see more people branching out and trying to get involved.

That's why I specifically make the suggestion that I do. If a feast season ended more than one year ago, put its reward up for 10 wolf collars. That's wolf COLLARS, not wolf MARKS. That way people still have to do the ranked modes. That way the lower tiers are still populated midway through the season. That way you get your fresh blood into the ranked mode and MAYBE, just maybe, some people decide it's actually fun and want to try for top 100 next season.

It's not all people scrambling over each other for welfare handouts, it's a mode with an anemic reward system and both a game presence and a community that does little to nothing to draw people in. Maybe stop seeing everyone not at the top level as a leech and you'll get there.

Feels like the OP complaining about multiple rank places filled by the same person.

If the "top 100" is intended as rewarding the players, I'd be fine if, of all my playing PvP characters, I get only the higher ranked on the list.

But, it will be 1,000 times better have the "top 100" rankings divided by the performed role and personal rankings separated by the role performed. After all if I'm awesome decent at ranged but my healing is terrible and if you see me top ranked as healer you will feel something is amiss.

I don't compete for top 100 ranked rewards currently but I deserve to have them anyway because they're exclusive.

I want to see the "true competition" that including Japanese players for the Feast and only Top 100 is rewarded with unique mounts for following reasons:

1. True competition; player pool is increased and top 100 will be the best of bests
2. English Meta vs Japanese Meta, which is superior?
3. Reduce the chance of "arranged" matches (Not saying it is 100% but it does happen)

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Originally Posted by Aurida

If a feast season ended more than one year ago, put its reward up for 10 wolf collars. That's wolf COLLARS, not wolf MARKS.

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then begins the slippery slope where people start whining for wolf marks to be exchanged for collars cuz da pvp too harddddddd :( /s

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Originally Posted by Aurida

Give me rewards now!!

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Look, have you ever thought that not every item or reward in the game has to be given out to everyone? have you considered that there would be rewards designed for only a certain amount of players who worked hard to compete and learn the meta at the time, jobs and gameplay? no? of course you haven't because you just see that the rewards are exclusive and you suddenly want them, I bet you've never got past gold in feast and actually tried to get top 100 rewards, with your suggestions and the fact you still blab on about pve = pvp in how rewards are giving out shows so much ignorance.

Did you know that every 2 seasons its the same reward extended over months and months, you have around 4+ months or so to grab one of the original or reskin reward, bet you didnt know that! you have no thought for those who play the mode frequently season after season at top 100 at all and you dont care because you just want the reward and then be done, like the majority of those who ask and cry for the rewards but wont put anywhere near the effort of those who actually play the season and learn. Imagine placing bronze or silver over multiple seasons thinking thats the same amount of work lmao

I have rewards from S5 onwards, would i like the old coats and hellhound mounts? sure but i know I didnt play much back then and didnt compete, I could have made more effort to play but i didnt and you know what I did? I accepted it, accepted that everything doesnt have to be mine because its exclusive and valuable, I dont do ultimates; I accept the rewards arent for me. Can you imagine that? I respect those who put the time in back then and got it but its one reward out of many. Fresh blood comes from seeing the reward and if theyre interested they will go for it and put effort like ive seen countless times, and then they usually stick with it after, We need OTHER rewards for those who participate on the lower end but you need to understand that every season has meta changes, sometimes different maps and other adjustments. This isnt PVE like old content gets irrelevant it simply doesn't work like that which you need to get into your head, its not hard and its simple to understand, seriously, No pvp game that has seasonal ranked rewards gives out the previous rewards again because thats retarded.

I await another lame copy and pasta, but before you do actually read this this time: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Feast-Rewards now Let this meme thread die hhh :D

If you place a certain tier or a certain ranking, you should be allowed to choose from rewards in that ranking. So if you placed top 100, you should get something you can redeem for top 100 rewards of past seasons (excluding the very top top trophy) if you wanted those instead of whatever was being offered. Also make the stuff you win account-wide. It can't possibly be that hard to make that happen, since they did it with the old veteran rewards

Edit: I just read that thread. It would be nice if he made them available again but of course in feast, by feasting. 99 Wolf Collars or something. /shrug. Now I have to go change my signature... I'm gonna miss it. It's been there since like.. the POTD days.. /sob.

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

If you place a certain tier or a certain ranking, you should be allowed to choose from rewards in that ranking. So if you placed top 100, you should get something you can redeem for top 100 rewards of past seasons (excluding the very top top trophy) if you wanted those instead of whatever was being offered. Also make the stuff you win account-wide. It can't possibly be that hard to make that happen, since they did it with the old veteran rewards.

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Uh, no. S14 Top 100 isn't the same as S3 Top 100, S7 Top 100 isn't the same as S5 Top 100, and so forth.

Also if I was an S1/S2 player and caught people with rewards for those seasons after spamming a bunch of Monk and Dancer games in S14 ngl I'd be pissed.

I guess it's way easier now? (I haven't played Feast since SB.... hell I haven't played FFXIV since SB so there's a lot to get used to now). In that case, I'd be inclined to agree with you. There's a certain something to being able to say "I got this when it was hard." .. but it's really a shame that that line of thinking doesn't apply to anything else in the game. I wish it did but at the same time, I wish there wasn't this artificial wall of either":

1. You can't have this because it was available for a super rare period of time and to a super exclusive group of people.. haha just kidding here's some earrings. OR
2. I want gamers to have rare items.. but only PVP players, and only 1% of them. It's like that meme with the metronome!

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

I guess it's way easier now? (I haven't played Feast since SB.... hell I haven't played FFXIV since SB so there's a lot to get used to now). In that case, I'd be inclined to agree with you. There's a certain something to being able to say "I got this when it was hard." .. but it's really a shame that that line of thinking doesn't apply to anything else in the game. I wish it did but at the same time, I wish there wasn't this artificial wall of either":

1. You can't have this because it was available for a super rare period of time and to a super exclusive group of people.. haha just kidding here's some earrings. OR
2. I want gamers to have rare items.. but only PVP players, and only 1% of them. It's like that meme with the metronome!

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Even if you haven't played this season (it is easier for top 100 than usual btw) it's just common sense that every season is going to be different and metas change (because virtually every PvP game is like this; even Call of Duty and Madden aren't the same every season lol); I mean I compared SB to HW in my example and everyone knows how different they were. In SHB, melee has become a far easier and more effective role, and tank has become much, much harder. Caster is possibly the most difficult it ever has been. Cutoffs are low, in S7 mount season I think it was like 2050 on my DC, this season I'll be surprised if it's like above 1700-1800; so if someone gets 1800 this season why should they get the same reward someone else got in a far competitive season where they might have needed 2100+ to get it? Correct, that line of thinking doesn't apply to anywhere else because this is the only recognised competitive activity in the game. If you do Ultimate SB stuff now, aside from a few ability changes or changes the way certain jobs play like Ninja for example it's the same fight, if people weren't capable of doing it in SB they'd be in the same position now, so the reward stays the same because balance-wise it's consistent I wouldn't say UWU or UCOB have gotten easier. Also 1%? Have you ever played rank? Using the pool of people that actually play Feast from DC to DC it's more like 30% (probably 18-20% if you take away all the alts) - that is a hell of a lot more than exclusive ranked rewards in a lot of other games, but that's because our community is also very small.

Yes, I played quite a bit and got platinum. I think in the last season I played I got gold. I honestly don't remember. But I miss the competition. I saw that for some reason they're not doing rewards this season because they're going to be making bigger changes to PVP in the next patch, or something along those lines?

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Originally Posted by Stormfur

Yes, I played quite a bit and got platinum. I think in the last season I played I got gold. I honestly don't remember. But I miss the competition. I saw that for some reason they're not doing rewards this season because they're going to be making bigger changes to PVP in the next patch, or something along those lines?

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With all due respect, as I always appreciate people that play the mode enough to at least get Platinum because without people like you, we don't get pops - but that's not like extremely active, Plat is sort of like where the bulk of individual improvement starts I'd say and you leave behind a tier where you can pretty much get away with anything, but the important thing is yes, you've seen ranked; the reason I asked is because obviously if you play even two different seasons of ranked, you -should- notice differences.

That is correct, we're getting another another overhaul, which sorta carries on from my last point that S15 is going to be a different season to S14, the S14 reward befits the game's state in S14, like any other season (altho S15 will probs be s14 mount recolor because SE are -at- least generous enough to give people two chances to get it; same way in WoW the type of mount ie drake, wyrm, serpent etc is obtainable every season in the expac in diff colors but once it's gone - it's gone)

I just want glowing weapons that look cool. :(

I understand people saying *git gud* and all that but as someone who wanted to get into Ranked... I can't... namely because I'm stuck in Bronze qualifiers still waiting on my queue to pop when it says "6 mins" and its been 40. Everyday... all the time... and this is as a Tank.

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Originally Posted by BarretOblivion

I understand people saying *git gud* and all that but as someone who wanted to get into Ranked... I can't... namely because I'm stuck in Bronze qualifiers still waiting on my queue to pop when it says "6 mins" and its been 40. Everyday... all the time... and this is as a Tank.

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this is what happens when u start 8 week race 2 week before finish,everyone at least gold and cant be matched with you

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Originally Posted by BarretOblivion

I understand people saying *git gud* and all that but as someone who wanted to get into Ranked... I can't... namely because I'm stuck in Bronze qualifiers still waiting on my queue to pop when it says "6 mins" and its been 40. Everyday... all the time... and this is as a Tank.

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Next season will be probably a recolor of this season's reward, so lesson learned, play early on in the season and not when it's basically over. Get gold and after that you can basically do w.e you want because gold will safely pop the vast majority of days right until the end of season.

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Originally Posted by Coopa

this is what happens when u start 8 week race 2 week before finish,everyone at least gold and cant be matched with you

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I stared when the season started and its been 3-4 weeks of this limbo.

Damn sure is unfair that old pvp rewards are unobtainable! Old ultimates shouldnt be locked now so no one can clear them anymore! Same prestigious quality amirite haha

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Originally Posted by BarretOblivion

I stared when the season started and its been 3-4 weeks of this limbo.

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you did something wrong then. you didn't play enough or you played during non-peak times. you basically have to spam no life your way up to diamond/platinum or else risk being left behind with no way to advance like you are in now.

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Originally Posted by BarretOblivion

I stared when the season started and its been 3-4 weeks of this limbo.

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then you're queueing at dumb times when it's inactive and no-one else plays. If I only queued at midday-4pm every day I wouldn't get matches either.