Can we get Garo-related gears back in the game ?

Hi guys,

I'm a new player just bought a game for nearly a month. And it is so worth. It's been a long time since I found a game I'm so dedicated to its contents. One thing I love is chasing pieces of gear and making them glamours (I played 160 hours already but haven't even finished ARR yet - pouring my time into PvP for those glamours). That being said, I was so disappointed knowing that the Garo gears and mounts are no longer obtainable in the game. I honestly wished I played the game a little earlier. Is there any chance the devs will bring them back in the game, or at least just make them appear in the Calamity Salvager options for new players like me (even at a higher wolf marks price than the original). The thought of not being able to have those beautiful gears bugs me everytime I log in to the game.

I know my request is selfish since it was in the game for a long time, according to some players I asked, but I don't want to abandon the hope and maybe find someone like me

Thank you guys for your time. Sorry for my bad English, and wish you all a Happy New Year!

Considering the trouble they went through to make sure everyone knew they were on the way out I don't suspect they'll be back at all. Doesn't hurt to request though. Hope it does come back, some of the stuff was really neat and are some of my favorite pieces.

maybe some day
but obviously it shouldn't last as long as it did before

yokai keeps coming back really dont see why Garo cant one day

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Originally Posted by Duskane

maybe some day
but obviously it shouldn't last as long as it did before

yokai keeps coming back really dont see why Garo cant one day

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Yo-Kai came back once and iirc only because Yoshi is personal friends with that Yo-Kai guy.
Garo was in the game for years. We were made aware months in advance it would be leaving. I don’t see Garo making a return.

Idk why they even removed it at all tbh... I mean it was in for so long, and I came back to the game months after it started, so I didn't even know it was a limited time "event" until they started talking about removing it.

At least the removal gave a few solid weeks of very quick PvP queues...

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Originally Posted by Moonfish

Yo-Kai came back once and iirc only because Yoshi is personal friends with that Yo-Kai guy.
Garo was in the game for years. We were made aware months in advance it would be leaving. I don’t see Garo making a return.

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Duskane mentions it as "keeps coming back" because Yoshi announced its return at some point in the future, in the most recent 14-hour live stream. This time, they'll be making it easier to obtain the Whisper-Go mount, along with the addition of Yokai weapons for RDM, SAM, GNB, and DNC.

As for the GARO event, I wouldn't be surprised if it'll eventually make a comeback, if there's enough demand for it.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

Idk why they even removed it at all tbh... I mean it was in for so long, and I came back to the game months after it started, so I didn't even know it was a limited time "event" until they started talking about removing it.

At least the removal gave a few solid weeks of very quick PvP queues...

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It's surprising that it went on for as long as it did, since they initially mentioned the event would continue on until some point after the release of Stormblood.

What was interesting about Garo was it initially served as a means of getting catch up gear via pvp. It wasn't bis when it came out or anything, but 230 ilvl gear wasn't anything to sneeze at either when trying to bump your ilvl up on a new new character/alt job. Because it was done that way and all the titles, achievements and mounts tied to doing pvp I think unlike most other events it was intended from the start to last a long time.

Obviously I'm not a SE insider and so don't know why exactly it went away. But I would guess it's because of licensing issues or something. I don't think it's likely to come back ever. But no harm in requesting it, and while I 'got mine' it'd be cool if the gear was brought back at some point. A lot of the sets were really good and unique without feeling too out of place in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

Obviously I'm not a SE insider and so don't know why exactly it went away. But I would guess it's because of licensing issues or something. I don't think it's likely to come back ever. But no harm in requesting it, and while I 'got mine' it'd be cool if the gear was brought back at some point. A lot of the sets were really good and unique without feeling too out of place in FFXIV.

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Yeah if I had to guess that explanation probably makes the most sense. Be nice if they could at least add the gold saucer versions back, if they can't/don't want to do the full event... so the skins would be available, just not dyeable. I'd rather have the bonus incentives to PvP personally, but still.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

Yeah if I had to guess that explanation probably makes the most sense. Be nice if they could at least add the gold saucer versions back, if they can't/don't want to do the full event...

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I thought they said specifically at the time that the licence has expired? Or maybe that was just speculation when we were discussing it.

In any case, if it is due to licensing then there's no chance of adding just the GS versions back "so we have them in some form", because the licence would be for using those gear designs in any form. Either the licence gets renewed, or they're not coming back at all.


I do hope they can come back at some point - there are some great designs and it's disappointing that I won't be able to access them on any future alts. I had a mad last-minute grind when I realised (a week before 5.1) that a planned-future-alt wasn't going to be able to get them if I didn't start and rush him through the MSQ right now. I got most things I wanted but was so burnt out at the end I couldn't quite bring myself to grind for the healer boots. I'm regretting that a bit, but I really couldn't do it at the time.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

Yeah if I had to guess that explanation probably makes the most sense. Be nice if they could at least add the gold saucer versions back, if they can't/don't want to do the full event... so the skins would be available, just not dyeable. I'd rather have the bonus incentives to PvP personally, but still.

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The outfits are from the Garo show so they're probably an all or nothing thing.

The GS versions kind of confused me tbh, because they're inferior to the normal ones (not dyable, not actual stated gear), but at least for me it would take much longer to grind out the mgp for them than the wolf marks for the pvp gear.

Would be nice if at the very least they put in an Emperor's New Shield item, I think the Garo shield is the only invisible shield in the game.

Slightly tin foil hatty here, but maybe they'll go up on the market board one day if I'm wrong about the licensing deal being why they were removed.

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Originally Posted by Bright-Flower

The GS versions kind of confused me tbh, because they're inferior to the normal ones (not dyable, not actual stated gear), but at least for me it would take much longer to grind out the mgp for them than the wolf marks for the pvp gear.

Would be nice if at the very least they put in an Emperor's New Shield item, I think the Garo shield is the only invisible shield in the game.

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They did mention they were looking at adding a replacement invisible shield. It's not like they had to license the appearance of it, unless there were some weird clauses in that agreement...

There were pros and cons to the GS versions. On the one hand they're undyeable, but on the other they can be used immediately at Lv1 instead of having to get all the way to Lv60.

If anything, they're probably there to encourage you to grind for them twice.

I'm not keen on PVP so I bought a lot of the GS items. For my rushed alt, I was able to start earning MGP (at Lv15 when the airship routes are unlocked) well before I got to unlock PVP (not available until after beating Ifrit and joining a GC). For my others, I had a lot of MGP accumulated over time and not much else to spend it on. I picked out the items that I wanted to be able to dye, and only bought those with wolf marks - the rest will be fine as-is. I hope.

(The last week before 5.1 felt a bit like I was organising for a family holiday, trying to check across all my characters to see what gear they had and needed. "You've all got every gear piece you'll ever want? Are you sure? Have you double-checked? We're not going to be coming back for anything you forgot...")

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I thought they said specifically at the time that the licence has expired? Or maybe that was just speculation when we were discussing it.

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I dunno, if they did I never saw it so it could just be something I missed. If that is the issue then yeah I doubt it'll come back. I was more thinking if there was some other reason they didn't want to then maybe they could throw a bone with the GS stuff.

Is a shame though. I do like a lot of the glamours. I'm just glad I managed to get all of the sets before it ended... got everything but the feast mount and the accessories. Wouldn't mind a shot at getting the rest eventually.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

This time, they'll be making it easier to obtain the Whisper-Go mount, along with the addition of Yokai weapons for RDM, SAM, GNB, and DNC.

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But I want everyone to suffer as I did... 808 FATES for that damned mount... that I barely use because it looks like a glowing sperm haha...

(I'm only partially serious about wanting everyone to suffer for it. Would probably be annoyed if it was too easy.)

Wait they're really bringing back Yo-Kai, and making it easier?

I'm not sure what I think of that. It was a total pain to do 766 FATEs, but it's nice to have a rare mount that nobody else can get. :D

More seriously, rarer items (and mounts especially) have a higher perceived value because of their rarity, so making them common/easy to get lowers that value.

On the other hand, that FATE grind was so awful I thought it kind of detracted from the game. Moogle tomestones were also bad.

Having yo-kai weapons (and minions?) for the new jobs is kind of a cool idea though. I used the weapon/shield glamours on PLD for a long time. And the yo-kai watch itself is one of the few wristwatches in the game I think, if not the only one? AFAIK FFXIV doesn't have a "wrist chronometer" although I kind of wish it did.

It was very disappointing that such unique headpieces like the flowers and butterfly were female-only.
I'd love to see Garo gear come back without restrictions.

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

But I want everyone to suffer as I did... 808 FATES for that damned mount... that I barely use because it looks like a glowing sperm haha...

(I'm only partially serious about wanting everyone to suffer for it. Would probably be annoyed if it was too easy.)

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I agree 100%. It took quite some time and a ton of fates to get that mount. Now SE is going to give it to people on a platter.

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

But I want everyone to suffer as I did... 808 FATES for that damned mount... that I barely use because it looks like a glowing sperm haha...

(I'm only partially serious about wanting everyone to suffer for it. Would probably be annoyed if it was too easy.)

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Not sure if there's a better summary of the 14-hour live stream, but the article I found mentioned the Whisper-Go mount. The glowy, grindy version is the Whisper A-go-go one.
Then again, I don't remember the non-glowy version ever being grindy to obtain.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

I agree 100%. It took quite some time and a ton of fates to get that mount. Now SE is going to give it to people on a platter.

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I mean, when only a very, very small portion of players who took part in the event the first couple times finished it entirely, I think there's an issue there. It's a crossover. It shouldn't be overly easy, but it shouldn't be soul crushingly difficult either...especially when the only difficult part is stomaching hundreds of Fates. 3-400 or so? I guess that's reasonable. But 800+? That's just...there aren't words. Well, there are, but I'd rather not get a temp ban.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I mean, when only a very, very small portion of players who took part in the event the first couple times finished it entirely, I think there's an issue there. It's a crossover. It shouldn't be overly easy, but it shouldn't be soul crushingly difficult either...especially when the only difficult part is stomaching hundreds of Fates. 3-400 or so? I guess that's reasonable. But 800+? That's just...there aren't words. Well, there are, but I'd rather not get a temp ban.

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This, yeah it's kinda a gut punch to have gone through the initial event and paid your dues to get the shiny version of the mount. But part of the reason why the event was unpopular in the first place, aside from the clashing aesthetics, was because of the sheer grind one needed to do to even get the mount in the first place. If we're only going to be getting Yokai Watch one more time then it's smart to cut down on the tedium.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

I mean, when only a very, very small portion of players who took part in the event the first couple times finished it entirely, I think there's an issue there. It's a crossover. It shouldn't be overly easy, but it shouldn't be soul crushingly difficult either...especially when the only difficult part is stomaching hundreds of Fates. 3-400 or so? I guess that's reasonable. But 800+? That's just...there aren't words. Well, there are, but I'd rather not get a temp ban.

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The glowy version of the mount was never designed for everyone to obtain, I remember that being outright stated in the announcement of the event. The first event duration was available for close to 10 weeks (from the 26th of July until the 3rd of October, 2016), while the second event was available for just over 8 weeks (3rd of September 2017 until the 1st of November 2017).

That duration in mind, along with the average of 700-800 FATEs to complete it, that's roughly 11 FATEs per day during the 1st event, or 13 FATEs per day during the 2nd event. And that's not taking into account that the player's ability to somewhat plan around which weapons to obtain first. For example, leaving the Outer La Noscea for the last 3 weapons allows one to ping-pong between the two FATEs in the U'Ghamaro Mines (completing one instantly forces the other one to respawn).

But there's a clear reason why there's a non-glowy version that was much easier to obtain, for the player who didn't want to grind as much.

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Originally Posted by Enla

This, yeah it's kinda a gut punch to have gone through the initial event and paid your dues to get the shiny version of the mount. But part of the reason why the event was unpopular in the first place, aside from the clashing aesthetics, was because of the sheer grind one needed to do to even get the mount in the first place. If we're only going to be getting Yokai Watch one more time then it's smart to cut down on the tedium.

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its not much different to the rest of this game normally
relics become easier to make over time
can unsync Extremes and savages to be much easier at a later date

unless its Ultimate or the new Blue mage savage stuff expect it to become more lenient at some point

Also speaking of Blue mage i found it funny yoshi said "weapons for the four new jobs"

I would completely support this.. but that's largely because I missed out as well. I had no idea the vendor in the GS was linked to this at all and was planning to go back later and make some purchases there but now it's just gone. My bad for not realizing or connecting the two but it still sucks. I suppose it also would provide at least a little something extra for PVPers to go after as a reward.

And I'm personally looking forward to the Yokai event returning as I wasn't subbed when it was here in the past. No interest at all in the weapons or mount(s) but some of the minions do look great and don't seem to be gated behind an awful grind. It's always nice for the game to have some sort of side content to do outside of the main game systems so it would be nice for there to always be something extra like this active, even just on a rotating basis with the same things leaving and coming back

Sorry for the late reply on my own thread, the internet went down for 3 days and I couldn't do anything at all.

So about the Garo gears, I found that there are people who want it to come back like me, but while we don't know if it is about the licensing issue or not yet, I'll just waiting patiently then.

About the PvP grind, at first I thought it is riddiculous, but then I found that queuing at the right time can give me super fast frontline matches, and they served as a good way to leveling as well.

Frontline was worst than feast for me when I was getting the mounts. Almost never win frontline. Ever.

If your lucky still can get garo gear from retainers quick ventures. So far I have got 3 garo items from them after it ended. But I don't think you can get mounts from them.