In the media section of the 5.1 site, there is a set of screenshots, one of which shows hoodless G'raha Tia in lakeland. Then above them there are two shots of character models on a white background, one of which is also a hoodless G'raha Tia. This implies that the media, including the model shots, are specifically about post-5.0 content.
My question comes in about the other model render shown: Ardbert. The above logic means that his render being there means he's got something to do with the next patch. Is it possible he's still around? It sure seemed like the symbolism in the final scenes of 5.0 said he was moving on, but now I'm not sure. Not that I'd mind if he's still around. I'd just be pretty surprised.
Or perhaps he's got some past history with the Grand Cosmos and will appear in flashbacks? Do we ever learn where he was actually from?
Is our friendly ghostly making a return?
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10-19-2019, 01:23 AMAlleluiaIs our friendly ghost making a return?
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10-19-2019, 01:48 AMJeanneOrnitier
I sure hope he's still around.
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10-19-2019, 02:28 AMTheodric
I hope so, he's my favourite character not only in Shadowbringers but the game as a whole.
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10-19-2019, 06:33 AMRoseSymphony
I remember initially seeing that picture of Ardbert before the site got updated but looking at it now, it seems to be gone. I'm not sure if they put it there by accident or if it was just a filler image.
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10-19-2019, 07:15 AMLihtleita
https://i.imgur.com/HnaJJuI.jpg
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10-19-2019, 07:17 AMDriven
Maybe it’s just me, but I was under the impression that our souls merged before the final fight. And that last scene with him walking with the other warriors of light was more of an artistic farewell to their characters.
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10-19-2019, 08:03 AMIscah"Looks like" but I doubt it. You can see the same boy in an earlier cutscene when you first restore night to Lakeland, and Ardbert's soul isn't "available" to be reincarnated because it's still him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lihtleita
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10-19-2019, 08:20 AMJeanneOrnitier
Ardbert a) merged with us so his soul can't even be reincarnated anymore and b) if he somehow were reincarnated then his reincarnation would have been born just like a couple hours before we spoke to that kid, not 8 years old or however old the kid is.
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10-19-2019, 08:36 AMNalienTechnically isn't his soul now us? I expect him to live on as a Fray type character at this point, at least. One who is effectively just in our heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iscah
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10-19-2019, 08:47 AMIscahThat too - he definitely won't be reincarnated now.Quote:
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10-19-2019, 11:09 AMRannie
That kid at the end of ShB reminded me of the Doman boy who with his 3 friends started the "Doman Adventurers Guild" more than anything especially with him rapidly firing off those questions. If they do anything with Ardbert, it may be more of the bleeding effect that Desmond started getting from over use of the Animus in Assassin's Creed. *shrugs*.
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10-19-2019, 05:19 PMAlleoThat would make no sense. He was becoming a part of our soul so he should not be able to reincarnate at all and that would be too fast. I just think this boy shows how our deeds change people and give them a reason to become adventurers themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lihtleita
At OP: Would be nice if he makes a return but that would also mean that he somehow is able to co-exist even with our souls rejoined..poor WoL her mind is really getting full. -
10-19-2019, 11:57 PMErendisI believe he was supposed to remind us of YozanQuote:
Originally Posted by Lihtleita
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10-20-2019, 12:39 AMIscahI don't think it's so much "supposed to remind us of _______" as that all child characters (of a particular race/gender) have prettymuch the same face, and it's especially noticeable when their hair is the same as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erendis
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10-20-2019, 02:55 AMAlleluia
Firstly, I'd like to thank the official forums UI that will not let me correct the typo in this thread's title, even when it claims I have. Consider Ardbert the Friendly Ghostly now embraced as my headcanon, SE. You win.
Secondly, his promotional art is definitely still there. Second image in the "artwork" section. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/shado...ers/patch_5_1/
Thirdly, I thought he was merged with us and therefore not interactable anymore, too. Again, if they go all Frey with him, I'll still be happy. Kinda makes the "walking to his friends" scene make less sense, I think. But I suppose its not like his soul could really move on anyway if it was merged with us??? Personally, I'd be fine with Ardbert providing running commentary in every other CS for the next three xpacs.
I hope the soul expert in next patch really has some lore bombs for us on how exactly souls work in this universe. The pixies, the fuath, the soul fragmentation, the scions... we need some confirmation on the rule set around souls and aether and how they are different, if they are. lol -
10-20-2019, 08:23 PMRiastradSome people believe we are going to meet up with a character named Ezel Berbier, who was a npc from the FFTactics Advanced games who wrote anti laws to be used against the the laws Judges used in battles. The character is a Nu Mou whose first name Ezel means separation or departure in Hebrew. I wonder what, if anything that could mean for anyone merged together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleluia
Not everyone agrees with my previous theories on the matter I know, but there will come a time down the road when we either separate again (because why would Hydaelyn allow us to remain merged when that goes against her modus operandi?) or we "simply" destroy both her and zodiark (as we cannot allow one with out the other).