More Beast Tribe crafting quests please.

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10-15-2019, 01:24 AM
SamSmoot

More Beast Tribe crafting quests please.

The Ixal had a large number of quests available in the 40's level range. I'd generally do my remaining six allowances with them, but no longer have any crafts in their range now.

Moogles and Nazmu only offer three quests each day, so my craft leveling has become much slower (and I have less stuff to do every day.)

How about opening it up, allow up to 12 quests for each tribe, so you can get XP on multiple crafts, even if you only have one tribe to work with.

And, expand the levels to 80, or add a new tribe for the 70-80 range.

I dread having to use leves only for 70-80 leveling, since it takes hours to collect all the materials to make the stuff with.
10-15-2019, 01:33 AM
RoseSymphony

We're getting the pixies as the new tribe in 5.1 which may/may not be geared toward crafting/gathering.
10-15-2019, 01:35 AM
RyuDragnier

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Originally Posted by RoseSymphony

We're getting the pixies as the new tribe in 5.1 which may/may not be geared toward crafting/gathering.

They won't be. If there was any beast tribe you could make the case for requiring you to craft, it'll be the Nu Mou, who are merchants by nature. And with the recent MSQ, they WILL be wanting to restart their supply lines with other places so they have people to trade with and serve again (the adorable things).
10-15-2019, 01:39 AM
RoseSymphony

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

They won't be. If there was any beast tribe you could make the case for requiring you to craft, it'll be the Nu Mou, who are merchants by nature. And with the recent MSQ, they WILL be wanting to restart their supply lines with other places so they have people to trade with and serve again (the adorable things).

I agree. I was only pointing out what information we were given.
10-15-2019, 01:40 AM
Rhus

Think crafting tribes are always the last one are they not? Also fairly certain it’ll be the dwarves who are miners
10-15-2019, 01:49 AM
SerLuke

They said you can use Ishgard Restoration for leveling crafters/gatherers which is coming out in 5.1
10-15-2019, 01:50 AM
SerLuke

Also are you doing custom deliveries? Those are a good weekly source of crafter/gatherer exp too
10-15-2019, 09:10 AM
einschwartz

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

How about opening it up, allow up to 12 quests for each tribe, so you can get XP on multiple crafts, even if you only have one tribe to work with.

I actually hated that ARR have up to 12 quests (or more?) per tribe. The whole process ranking up is dreadful. I'm currently leveling my other crafters to 50 (already have CRP, MIN, BOT in 70s) and it took so much time to spend all my allowances doing Ixal, on top of running daily roulette within limited playtime.

I will say that the quest formula for ARR tribes are mostly to blame here. Travel to different maps, gather this and send them to npc, then go to another npc to get your mats. I'm glad they change this and the number of quests to 3 per tribe starting HW onwards.

Then again, perhaps it won't be so bad to having to do 12 quests with the current formula (/ponder)? As someone who have limited playtime (2-3 hours weekdays) like myself, what we have currently is comfortable enough.

Look forward for new beast tribe though. I like using it to level DoH together with custom deliveries.
10-15-2019, 09:14 PM
Frizze

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Originally Posted by Rhus

Think crafting tribes are always the last one are they not? Also fairly certain it’ll be the dwarves who are miners

Moogles and namazu were both last. I couldnt tell you the order the ARR tribes were added. And yeah, my money is on the dwarves as the crafty tribe.
10-15-2019, 10:09 PM
SerLuke

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Moogles and namazu were both last. I couldnt tell you the order the ARR tribes were added. And yeah, my money is on the dwarves as the crafty tribe.

And I’m still holding out hope those dwarf quests will give us an item with the mini effect to let us non little people into their houses XD
10-16-2019, 03:11 AM
LineageRazor

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Originally Posted by Frizze

Moogles and namazu were both last. I couldnt tell you the order the ARR tribes were added. And yeah, my money is on the dwarves as the crafty tribe.

Ixal were last, as well.
10-16-2019, 06:43 AM
AnimaAnimus

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

They won't be. If there was any beast tribe you could make the case for requiring you to craft, it'll be the Nu Mou, who are merchants by nature. And with the recent MSQ, they WILL be wanting to restart their supply lines with other places so they have people to trade with and serve again (the adorable things).

The Dwarves are more likely. Go to Tomra and take a look around, its all about crafting/gathering over there.
10-16-2019, 07:13 AM
RyuDragnier

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

The Dwarves are more likely. Go to Tomra and take a look around, its all about crafting/gathering over there.

It's also the Tholls vs the Goggs, so them basically "hiring" us to attack the other side and destroy the stuff of their competition is highly possible.
10-16-2019, 07:33 AM
SamSmoot

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

Also are you doing custom deliveries? Those are a good weekly source of crafter/gatherer exp too

I've been doing those. The Crystarium deliveries have been a bust though, since every one of the turn-ins requires stuff from three level 70 crafts. However, I staggered my crafting levels across the beast tribes, so I can't make the items to turn in because they always require a material from a craft whose level is too low to make it.

So, I'm just using the old turn-ins, Nazmu, and Moogles to get everything else up to 70 so I can do the Crytarium stuff (and whatever comes up in 5.1).
10-16-2019, 10:57 AM
SannaR

Those are house of splendors not Custom deliveries which have their own little stories and start with Zhole unlocked at 60. Starts with lv 57 turn ins. As far as I know there isn't a ShB person yet.
10-16-2019, 04:35 PM
TalithaSolarien

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Originally Posted by SannaR

Those are house of splendors not Custom deliveries which have their own little stories and start with Zhole unlocked at 60. Starts with lv 57 turn ins. As far as I know there isn't a ShB person yet.

We get a new Custom Delivery guy/gal in patch 5.1.
10-16-2019, 05:29 PM
LalaRu

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

...Nazmu only offer 3 quests each day, so my craft leveling has become much slower...

Namazu exp reward is awesome in the range 60-69 and three quest are enough for a fast path to 70. Unless you want 9 quests but with standard exp rewards that are 1/100 of what you get today...
10-16-2019, 05:33 PM
AriaEnia

Slightly off topic here, but Namazu max rank is 8 or could be more?
10-16-2019, 05:57 PM
einschwartz

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Originally Posted by AriaEnia

Slightly off topic here, but Namazu max rank is 8 or could be more?

Yes. Rank 8 (Bloodsworn) is the max for HW and SB beast tribes.
Maxing all the tribes and completing the allied tribe quests will grants you to the true rank (Allied).
10-16-2019, 08:30 PM
Frizze

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Originally Posted by SamSmoot

I've been doing those. The Crystarium deliveries have been a bust though, since every one of the turn-ins requires stuff from three level 70 crafts. However, I staggered my crafting levels across the beast tribes, so I can't make the items to turn in because they always require a material from a craft whose level is too low to make it.

So, I'm just using the old turn-ins, Nazmu, and Moogles to get everything else up to 70 so I can do the Crytarium stuff (and whatever comes up in 5.1).

The crystarium deliveries were good exp, though its not repeatable. Once you hand in your first 6 facet of _____ items, the story progresses and they no longer need that item. Each stage was worth around a level of exp when done near level(and with HQ turn ins of course). This far into the patch cycle, buying the intermediate mats from the classes you dont have leveled shouldnt be too expensive if youre judicious about it. You could also try running some gliderskin maps, as they reward mostly crafting mats and you could theoretically get what you need(this is all rng of course). And finally, if you have any crafter friends in a similar position you could trade mats you can make for mats they can so you both can finish things more cheaply. Otherwise, waiting is fine too. Just sometimes it helps to have one or two classes ahead of the others for agnostic turn ins(like the new custom delivery client coming in 5.1).
10-16-2019, 10:08 PM
einschwartz

For those unaware, this 'Crystarium Deliveries' we've been referring to are actually role quests for DoH/L similar to how we have them for battle jobs starting lv70. This is why they're unlocked after reaching certain level range and are not repeatable.

What I gathered from the last live letter, Kai-Shirr (the blue mystel we met in msq) will be our ShB Custom Deliveries client. :)
I'm really ecstatic because my wol has a crush on him lol
10-16-2019, 10:25 PM
SerLuke

Also just FYI Crystarium Deliveries give more exp for the individual turn-ins if you are using HQ items
10-16-2019, 11:47 PM
Berteaux_Braumegain

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Originally Posted by RoseSymphony

We're getting the pixies as the new tribe in 5.1 which may/may not be geared toward crafting/gathering.

We'll undoubtedly get two combat tribes first, with a crafting/gathering tribe coming near the end of Shadowbringers' patches.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

They won't be. If there was any beast tribe you could make the case for requiring you to craft, it'll be the Nu Mou, who are merchants by nature. And with the recent MSQ, they WILL be wanting to restart their supply lines with other places so they have people to trade with and serve again (the adorable things).

I'd say that's highly possible, but not exactly guaranteed. The Ananta specialized in gemcraft, after all, but that was just reduced to cutscenes while most of their quests involved just doing chores for the Ala Mhigan Resistance.
10-17-2019, 01:19 AM
Kuro_Mao

I agree for the people that don't want to go hardcore; and wish SE would prioritize it as a second Beast tribe until waiting for the last one. That said, if you level your gatherers to 80, and can farm the items for 70-75 levee quests... Crafting is a joke in this ex pack. Its more repetitive than anything.
10-20-2019, 06:37 AM
SamSmoot

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

Namazu exp reward is awesome in the range 60-69 and three quest are enough for a fast path to 70. Unless you want 9 quests but with standard exp rewards that are 1/100 of what you get today...

Problem is, if you happen to be leveling all your crafts at the same time (for cross-class abilities and materials), you end up with all of them in the 60's at the same time, but only able to do 3 quests per day.
I suppose they could just let us spend up to 9 allowances on any one tribe each day, doing 3 for each eligible class.
10-21-2019, 12:52 PM
Destati

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Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain

I'd say that's highly possible, but not exactly guaranteed. The Ananta specialized in gemcraft, after all, but that was just reduced to cutscenes while most of their quests involved just doing chores for the Ala Mhigan Resistance.

Gonna piggyback off of this and say the third SB beast tribe was meant to be the Qiquirn but was later changed to Namazu due to their unprecedented popularity.