It's the only GNB skill that I feel is somewhat awkward to use because it feels like it should be an Ability(Like Bow Shock) and not a Weaponskill. I get that they are trying something new, but I find this skill just a little weird as if it being labeled as a Weaponskill was a mistake. Lol.
Thoughts? :3
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I wish Sonic Break was an Ability, make it happen!
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10-08-2019, 01:38 PMRiko_FutatabiI wish Sonic Break was an Ability, make it happen!
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10-08-2019, 03:48 PMDRKoftheAzure
No, leave it a GCD it would feel more awkward than not having Scourge or more combos on Dark Knight
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10-08-2019, 04:00 PMDuskaneYou cant go one thread without mentioning Drk can youQuote:
Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure
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10-08-2019, 04:15 PMReiMakoto
Sonic break as a gcd is wonderful as it gives you more room to weave your abilities, class is tight enough as it is without removing sonic break as a gcd
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10-08-2019, 04:43 PMJandor
I like Sonic Break, although I kind of wish it was just a regular GCD instead of a cooldown one.
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10-08-2019, 11:58 PMDRKoftheAzureLike Goring Blade regular GCD? As Goring Blade is a GCD combo ender for PLD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jandor
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10-09-2019, 12:10 AMMahrze
I actually like these "hybrid WpnSkills" that behave like abilities. Plus it aligns with No Mercy so well I'd hate to see it nerfed in potency for the sake of it being up regularly.
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10-09-2019, 12:27 AMNoitems
I mean if you're doing your opener properly Sonic Break is almost like an OGCD anyway. Since you're using it after the first ready combo into Bow Shock and Blasting Zone anyway which is about the same amount of time as your normal GCD.
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10-09-2019, 12:38 AMKabooa
It'd be pretty rough. You'd have to have an extra filler every 60s and that extra filler might be a Burst strike you don't get in the window.
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10-09-2019, 02:01 AMRiko_Futatabi
Also, because it's not part of a combo and has around a minute CD. I feel like I'm prone to forgetting about the skill more than usual. Hopefully, I just get used to it. lol
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10-09-2019, 02:26 AMTouchandFeel
Sonic Break is a GCD weaponskill because Burst Strike is one as well.
GNB has a more strict rotation-based focus for its gameplay, similar to PLD.
Since Burst Strike is on the GCD and you are using it very regularly, it ends up offsetting your base combo rotation from the timers of your buff abilities like No Mercy, leaving you just slightly off with your rotation and timers. The GCD of Sonic Break helps fill and fix that gap of being "slightly off" to better align your rotation and timer-based buffs, making the GCD cadence of the job more consistent and flowing. If you remove that by making Sonic Break insta-cast, you create a situation where you will have to adjust to the "off" rotation and timers, resulting in either delayed GCDs, delayed buff activation or things just not lining up the way you would want them to. -
10-09-2019, 06:26 AMShurrikhanThen you'd have to make room for another GCD per minute that desyncs you from the GF combo... There's no way you wouldn't be hitting that again at each duration's end (i.e. every 30 seconds).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jandor
No, that's the point. Moving from 12 GCDs per Gnashing Fang combo to 13 every other Gnashing Fang combo (unless you intend to simply overcap cartridges) would not make it easier to re-align. Its pairing with Burst Strike is perfectly fine at present as it matches our actual cartridge generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluffernuff
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10-09-2019, 07:14 PMJandorI was thinking more like Stormbite or Caustic Bite on Bard. You press it, DoT goes on, that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure
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10-12-2019, 04:14 AMFluffernuffthey meant a regular weaponskill, 2.5s, not the 60s it is now. it would still fit in the same places, and even be much more reliable to re-allign instead of relying on burst strike. the matter of DoT uptime would have some ramifications elsewhere in the rotation, thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Shurrikhan
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10-12-2019, 06:05 AMMavrias
No thanks. It works perfectly the way it is now.
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10-12-2019, 07:01 AMQuorI mean, that's what it does now, it just has a CD to it. Removing the CD on it means it becomes a high priority thing, above literally everything else as long as you can be sure you'll get the entire DoT duration out of it. As it stands now, it's essentially a dps cooldown that lines up nicely with No Mercy. Giving it no CD would either mean re-balancing it's damage to be lower than it currently is, or taking damage off of GNB's rotation elsewhere, because it would be a significant bump in damage just because of how strong a DoT is when it's able to run for full duration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jandor
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10-12-2019, 07:11 AMTheForceAd hominem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duskane
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10-12-2019, 07:22 AMKabooaIt's funny because in its current state, the only reason to use the regular combo would be to use the Charge combo. Burst Strike gives the mainline combo about 350 potency per, while SOnic is just 300 +90 first tick. A Gunbreaker spamming Sonic Break and using Bloodfest to cover the combo most of the time would probably only do about 6-8% less. Not an insignificant number, but still humorous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quor
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10-12-2019, 07:54 AMHierro
If they made it into an ability, it might as well just get deleted or merged with bow shock. There's no need for two oGCD dots.
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10-12-2019, 08:32 AMMPNZ
Wow, totally thought this was going to be about this
https://youtu.be/HtDoK1ykGhM?t=98
https://youtu.be/wy_V0eL_Q4w?t=106
https://youtu.be/cWyuOoNcZXw?t=80