Sitting in queue for 20+ minutes and then getting the 'light' versions of the Primals is a real kick in the teeth. They award less than a thousand EXP. Sure, they go 'fast' (not counting waiting on the intro video) but the queue does not go any faster. It would be nice if it awarded a reasonable amount of EXP upon completion to anyone who was put into the group through the Duty Finder 'Leveling Dungeon' queue. Otherwise, I'm just going to keep turning the game off each time I get shafted with one.
Compensation for light party Primals in DF
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09-11-2019, 01:20 PMMynameisalreadytakenCompensation for light party Primals in DF
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09-11-2019, 07:49 PMVoidedge_Ragna
Ask a friend to queue with you, how long you are queued for has no outcome on the duty.
The roulettes serve the point of getting ppl into duties tgey would usually not queue for, how often do you run garuda normal?
For the 3-5 min they take they give loads of exp. Ppl like me would want to have ifrit/titan/ruda everyday cuz i rather take 7mil in 4 min then 15 in 25min.
Besides admiting to turing off the game cuz you get a duty you dont want having 3 ppl wait till they can kick you? You are begging to get in trouble lol. -
09-11-2019, 09:23 PMNanami_NaniwaIs it really worth disconnecting and waiting another 30 minutes? I mean you waste almost an hour just with queueing and chances are that you are getting another Ifrit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mynameisalreadytaken
Personally I prefer the primals - the faster the dungeon, the better. It is basically free exp. -
09-11-2019, 09:34 PMMisutoraru
So OP throwing a tantrum because you don’t get what you want. OP is lucky that there is no way to prove if someone disconnect intentionally because they don’t get what they want, otherwise, ppl who do it really should receive a 24hr ban for using DF/PF/forming party when they accumulate the abuse enough in a set of time
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09-11-2019, 11:49 PMNoitems
Honestly if you want to make up the difference you just run hunt marks during the time your queue is going on. They give a good amount of exp with seals/nuts per day, and will help later on with buying augmented gear for the Deepshadow gear in SHB.
Though to be honest I went into leveling rous as dps for 8 jobs in a row on the way to 80. I just find things to do in the meantime to make the time waiting worthwhile. -
09-12-2019, 01:33 AMMynameisalreadytaken
To clarify, I finish the encounter before turning off the game. The way I wrote it was misleading and I apologize.
Regardless of what you do while queued, there is still a huge disparity between the dungeon reward and a primal reward. If I'm in queue and get a dungeon it takes about 40 min total and you get roughly a full level (at middle levels). If I'm in queue and get a primal it takes about 20 min and you get a few hundred EXP. When you've only got 2-3 hours a day at most to play this is a huge difference and something the player has no control over. Why not make it worthwhile for all players in the group when someone is working through the MSQ and has to do these? -
09-12-2019, 01:57 AMDzianIt does?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mynameisalreadytaken
Last time i got a story trial in levelling roulette it threw me several million exp. considering how fast they are it's more than reasonable.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Voidedge_Ragna
If you're running it more than once then thats typically a waste. because you'll often get nothing even if you get a dungeon.. if your second roulette gives you av for example and your level 60. then it wont even dent your exp bar..
It's better to do the roulette once for the daily bonus and then just queue the top 2 or 3 dungeons for your level if you want more exp -
09-12-2019, 02:09 AMRivinStormfangHow much level progress did that several million experience actually give you though? That's the main issue here. Getting an actual dungeon in leveling roulette gives 1-2 levels, while a story primal gives maybe one-third of a level. It's great if you just want something fast, but if you're trying to get levels it's a significant loss, which means that often they're just really annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzian
I don't see why increasing the experience rewards would be a problem, anyway. It's not like people would leave and requeue until they got a story primal (which is relatively unlikely to begin with). It would just make them feel less wasteful if you do happen to get them. -
09-12-2019, 02:47 AMClouse_Cleyra1, 2 levels? Impossibl3, maybe at very low levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by RivinStormfang
Its usually 1/3 of a level for a dungeons and 1/5 if u get a primal -
09-12-2019, 03:32 AMRivinStormfangI was going off my recent experiences leveling a few jobs up from 1, so yes (it was usually two full levels up to around 30 and then 1-1.5 levels up to 50). It does fall off as you get higher, especially above 70. But what you described is pretty much the same thing in terms of relative rewards. The primals are just disappointing for the queue times spent to get into them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clouse_Cleyra
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09-12-2019, 07:15 AMMynameisalreadytaken
I was unclear again, I apologize. I am talking about using DFDR 'Leveling' multiple times in a day in an effort to level up a low job. After you have received your daily bonus you still get a substantial amount of EXP from dungeons, which is great and why I use it. If you happen to get one of the light party trials you Only receive the kill EXP from whatever is in the trial, which is almost nothing. For example, at level 31 on my second queue for the day I got Titan. For completing the duty I received a less than 400 EXP. That's it, just the kill EXP for Titan and nothing else whatsoever. When you only have time for maybe 3 queues in a day, getting 1 or more of these light trials instead of dungeons is a huge difference in EXP than if you only got dungeons. I'm not saying they should throw tons of EXP at you, or that you can't do anything else instead of DFDR, or that you can't do things while in queue. I'm simply saying that I think there should be at least SOME extra reward from getting one of these--even just 5% of your level. Something more than I get get from walking outside and killing a few easy mobs in less than a couple minutes.
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09-12-2019, 07:41 AMRongwayIt's only meant to be run once a day for the scaling bonus. It's not worth it without that bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mynameisalreadytaken
Run it once, then select the highest level dungeon manually for the rest of the day. -
09-12-2019, 07:53 AMMynameisalreadytaken
Thank you, Rongway. I genuinely appreciate the helpful and on-topic response. I will in fact do that from now on. I had been assuming that there was some sort of bonus (not sure why, I guess from other games) and this just never occurred to me. Thanks again and have a great day!
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09-12-2019, 08:18 AMClouse_CleyraYeah I also didnt understood. Roulettes are worth 1 per day. For leveling I suggest doing (in my experience)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mynameisalreadytaken
Leveling. 35% of a level
Best dungeon avaibable that is not lvl 50/60/70/80. 35% of a level (with well rested bonus)
Main scenario can be 1/2 lvel (long dungeon) or 30/25% of level (short dungeon)
Alliance roulette. Around 20/30% of a level.
Trials roulette. Like 10% of a level but takes 5 minutes.
After you do a roulette it says on the screen of that roulete (reward already received) so theres no point doing it again on the same day. -
09-16-2019, 06:09 PMBloodRubyXII
It's called a roulette for a reason, you aren't supposed to win every time! Also your queues help newer sprouts, look past the selfishness and just take the free exp man.