I'm talkin' 'bout you Cecily. The absolute worst healer in this game, lol. I'm trying tanking just to see if I like it and I figured squadrons would be the best place to try it....but nooooo Cecily insists on dpsing while I'm at 4% health, then the adds decide they want to come from a mile away to join in and welp....another death. Geeze fix the squadron healer please.My repair bill needs it. Thanks, lol.
Talk about healers that dps instead of heal......
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08-15-2019, 01:44 AMmagdahmharaTalk about healers that dps instead of heal......
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08-15-2019, 02:40 AMgalbsadi
You should see Urianger heal sometimes.
I swear, if you do a trust as a tank, half the time he just decides to not heal at all. -
08-15-2019, 05:33 AMAllegor
Alphy is way better than Urianger, he should go back to being an arcanist.
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08-15-2019, 06:06 AMNedkel
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08-15-2019, 06:41 AMAnienaiI love this post!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nedkel
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08-15-2019, 06:44 AMMhaeric
Alphimaud is the healer you take when you don't want to bother with doing mechanics as the tank. Urianger is the one you take when you want to be required to do them.
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08-15-2019, 06:47 AMBrightshadow
https://youtu.be/JG-_LQAEqTM
Explained perfectly. -
08-15-2019, 07:27 AMTigore
We also have a Dorkly video for this.
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08-15-2019, 09:49 AMWyssahtyn
Squadron stances dictate their behavior. Place the healer on Defensive and they'll prioritise healing you. Though this doesn't solve the issue of them taking a minute to catch up if you happen to go out of their range.
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08-15-2019, 09:56 AMTankHunter678My experience with Alphinaud is that he spends more time DPSing then healing and is slow to react to needing to heal and often times gets hit by AoEs because of this. While Urianger will prioritize healing over doing DPS, so long as you are within range, and even to the point where he will take AoEs to complete his casts. Making him a very unsafe healer. Which is why I pair him with his sister so that she can dual cast raise him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
I much prefer Urainger as my Trust healer because he uses Diurnal so he applies regens, he has a skill he will occasionally use that inflicts Death on the target, and his version of Gravity comes with a 20 sec Slow and does damage to the entire pack. That 20 sec slow is really great for large pulls as it greatly reduces mob damage output. -
08-15-2019, 09:58 AMSeryneUrianger straight up died for me once on a trash pull. Did not bother to move out of some AoEs and got bodied by them. It was kinda hilarious to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by galbsadi
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08-15-2019, 11:05 AMNessaWyvernAt this stage, nobody should trust Urianger, considering all the stuff he does in the main story.Quote:
Originally Posted by galbsadi
Once I had him in a trust, and he shouted something like "I shall protect you" and then Thancred died right after. Thanks Urianger.
Then again he IS new to Ast, so he might report us if we tell him he's doing a sub-par job :P -
08-15-2019, 12:29 PMTsukino
Squadrons are painfully bad at everything but doing damage. It's bad as a tank but it's basically impossible as a damage dealer. Only way I finished about half of the dungeons with them once was by doing them all as a healer.
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08-15-2019, 03:49 PMMhaericI will disagree here, since most of my squad runs have been done as dps. They aren't the smartest, but the tanks and healers are more than capable enough to complete the content because they take very little damage compared to you. The times that I have failed to beat a boss are only because I wasn't able to execute the mechanics of a fight properly. Note that this might mean having to do it differently from the way you would execute a mechanic in a DF party, because it's only you doing the mechanic and you are the one being targeted by all the fight mechanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino
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08-15-2019, 03:55 PMRaquelleAvarosa
Liliba seems to be healing fine, maybe you should use her instead :D
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08-15-2019, 04:23 PMMahoukenshiI had a similar near-death scenario yesterday xD. Was dipping in the water as Tank with Cecily in Brayflox's Longstop and at the last boss I *barely* scratched by with a sliver of health. I dunno if I stood too far away from her due to my horrid "puddle placement" or if the AI was trolling me. The irony of all: At the end she obtained the Offensive tactic! Thank you for nothing RNGesus.Quote:
Originally Posted by magdahmhara
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08-15-2019, 05:12 PMFlay_wind
I remember my Brayflox's Longstop run as a tank. It goes okay up to the final boss. Then we wipe several times because Rivienne decided that healing is for wimps and dps is all that matters. On my final succesful attempt i tried to stay alive as much as possible and still barely managed to survive.
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08-15-2019, 05:31 PMAriaEnia
Hey, I love Cecily, tho I'll just let Hastaloeya to do all the tanking, not me.
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08-15-2019, 07:23 PMLarirawiel
That's funny. I got sometimes comments from other players why i do not dps when the tank has full health. It seems it doesn't care what i do, it is always wrong. :) DPSing is wrong, not DPSing is also wrong. :)
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08-15-2019, 10:44 PMgalbsadiYeah, I've seen that, and also seen him die to mechanics in Holminster (I haven't yet brought trusts into Qitana or higher, I've only been using them to level alts.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Seryne
LOL! Rest assured, though, he won't. If we tell him he's doing a sub-par job...he'll ignore us. Just like he does the rest of the time. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by NessaWyvern
I actually disagree here. The only real issue I saw was with Wanderer's Palace back when they first came out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsukino
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08-15-2019, 11:06 PMMaraD_ive tried all behavior types, and while there is slight changes in personality for tanks and DPS, for healers, its always the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn
i can be fighting just 1 or 2 mobs, and go from full HP, to dead, before they start casting cure.
defensive doesnt do anything, other than change how easy it is for the healer to die to attacks.
you have (1) how long it takes for healers to catch up to the rest of the group
(2) delay if u move around (some reason they dont liek to heal when ur moving too much)
(3) the absolute minimum requirement is for you to be below 50% hp, and sometimes lower, for any heals, no matter what.
you can still do it, but its obnoxious.
would be a great place to learn tanking w/o stress, but its only decent as a DPS, and semi ok as a healer. (only because the DPS is so high) -
08-16-2019, 07:36 AMmagdahmhara
I hope they fix the squadrons to run as well as the trusts. It would be nice to learn an alt job (especially tanks) with squadrons before stepping into DF.
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08-16-2019, 08:14 AMAlucard135https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...4709326558.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Allegor
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08-16-2019, 09:44 AMNessaWyvern
I dunno, I am sure at some point he'll say "Dost thou knoweth mine report hath already been sent?"
You can't trust Urianger. -
08-16-2019, 10:08 AMRoido_Avingu
Both Urianger AND Alisaie straight up died to the last boss of Malikah's Well when I ran it the very first time, didn't even bother to move out of one of the attacks, so it was left to me and Y'shtola to beat it with roughly 12% health left. Good thing I was Paladin, because I played both Tank and Healer, and healed her more than the actual healer.
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08-16-2019, 10:11 AMCanadaneThis ones a classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigore