DRK's Over-reliance on WHM: Are we Dead or Alive?

I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but the elephant in the room needs to be addressed soon.

Living Dead is a liability, not a Cooldown.

People have said it time and again about how this skill throws healers for a loop unless you have a WHM, but back then both SCH and AST had the tools and abilities to overcome this liability in both a raid setting and in a dungeon setting.

Now, in a dungeon setting, DRK has to hope he gets a WHM or else he can't use Living Dead due to the new HP increases they forced on Tanks this expansion to adjust for their new design for Healers. Living Dead has been the only cooldown since inception to be detrimental in more ways than one, and if SCH/AST don't have their resources ready to allocate to Living Dead, the DRK will die.

Yet WHM has no issues with their plethora of healing tools and their ability to make someone go from 1 HP to 100% in a few seconds due to their "pure healer" design philosophy they've taken. If we're to balance this out so DRK isn't the Black Horse it already is, we need to find a solution.

Given DRK's current state, it would operate well in 8-man raids, but it lacks heavily in physical defensive CDs compared to the other 3 Tanks, who have at least 3 to accomodate themselves with, making them rather subject to fight design issues than other jobs due to whether the fight is Magical in nature(Titania, Innocence Autos/Tank Buster, Leviathan, Eden Prime) or Physical in nature(Innocence Ult/Spears, Titania Add Phase, Voidwalker, Titan).

This leaves pre-70 DRK in a rather uncomfortable spot. Given Living Dead is learned at Lv 50, there's a way to fix the issue among the Balance Discord:

The most popular way is to make healing become 150% or 200% during Walking Dead, allowing both SCH/AST to have a better time healing and alleviate the issue. The other way is to make Walking Dead only require 50% of the DRK's Maximum HP in healing.

Jobs are generally not balanced around dungeon or levelling content. That being said, the reason why a lot of DRK players and their healers want to see a change to Living Dead is because the ability isn't fun to use.

There was a tremendous amount of support for a change in the last Q+A session, but we haven't seen a response yet. I know that questions on housing, glamour, and Emet-Selch's hobbies are certainly easier to answer, but it would have been nice to at least see them attempt to comment on the issue.

There are also a lot of good suggestions on how to tackle the issue across the past two threads (1,2), as well as a healer perspective on the issue. Either way, this is something that needs to be addressed.

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

The most popular way is to make healing become 150% or 200% during Walking Dead, allowing both SCH/AST to have a better time healing and alleviate the issue. The other way is to make Walking Dead only require 50% of the DRK's Maximum HP in healing.

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These two solutions still create a crippling over reliance on healers. DRK is currently the only tank that is absolutely 100% going to die if forced to use its last stand mechanic without a healer present. Hallowed Ground grants full immunity without drawbacks other than having a longer CD than its competitors, while Holmgang and Superbolide can both be compensated for by the tanks using them simply by making effective use of their healing kits. DRK cannot do this. If Living Dead has popped, the only way you're going to heal yourself enough is if you have a positively insane number of mobs crowded around you for a good Abyssal Drain hit.

Those two solutions also leave one other problem intact: Premature healing. Whether cheesing a mechanic or simply needing the temporary immortality to handle a situation that caught you with your proverbial pants down, healers are quite capable of completely screwing you over by kicking that buff off of you at inopportune times. Or, worse still, they keep you alive just long enough for the initial timer to expire, thereby denying you immunity and getting you killed regardless.

Living Dead
Recast: 300
Effect: Summon a shadowy Simulacrum with health equal to your maximum health for 10 seconds. While active, attacks that hit you strike the Simulacrum instead. When the Simulcrum's health is reduced to 0, it is removed from the field.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Living Dead
Recast: 300
Effect: Summon a shadowy Simulacrum with health equal to your maximum health for 10 seconds. While active, attacks that hit you strike the Simulacrum instead. When the Simulcrum's health is reduced to 0, it is removed from the field.

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I like this idea but it falls short in multi-hitting tank busters/mechanics and cheese strats where the point is to out last the mechanic. The possibility of loosing the clone on the first hit and dying to the second hit could be its biggest downfall. Maybe change it so that the clone has a higher percentage based of your hp (ex. 150% HP) but takes 90% of the dmg and you take 10%? It kinda fits lore-wise harnessing your life energy but still being tied to it. They can even re-use the DA animation, which defined DRK for me in 3.0 and 4.0.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Living Dead
Recast: 300
Effect: Summon a shadowy Simulacrum with health equal to your maximum health for 10 seconds. While active, attacks that hit you strike the Simulacrum instead. When the Simulcrum's health is reduced to 0, it is removed from the field.

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People would start using that as a DPS tool instead of an oh shit button. It would be popped on CD so that healers could maximize their DPS output during its window. That being said, I actually quite like the idea of it. It would effectively be a tank immunity that sees use as something OTHER than a last resort/cheese button while at the same time being just as effective as everyone else's tools. Would probably need more than 100%, though. Like maybe give it 100% of your HP plus the equivalent of a full TBN.

One thing I would say, however, is that you might be better served to call it Dark Simulacrum. Living Dead makes it sound more like you're reanimating a nearby corpse (which, granted, would be awesome) to fight for you for however long it lasts.

I honestly want to say get rid of the Death Penalty altogether. It’s not fun and it fights with Healers a ton. To not make it OP though you’d have to take off the 10s prep in Living Dead and jut give them a 10s Holmgang at this point. It’s a easy fix, but one that makes them too similar to WAR. How else can we fix it without presenting new problems?

What about this:

Living Dead (360s CD):
Grants the effect of Living Dead. When HP is reduced to 0 while under the effect of Living Dead, instead of becoming KO'd, your status will change to Walking Dead.
Living Dead Duration: 10s
While under the effect of Walking Dead, most damage done to you will heal you instead of dealing damage. You cannot be healed higher than 50% of your maximum health while under the Walking Dead effect.
Walking Dead Duration: 8s

This potential solution would do several things:
1) It would play on the concept of a Dark Knight feasting on the souls of its enemies.
2) This solution completely removes healing requirements from the skill. Healers would only need to heal the tank back after the immunity ends.
3) This solution makes Living Dead usable in solo content and significantly better in 4-man content.
4) The reason for the decreased Walking Dead duration, increased CD to 360 sec, and limitation on how much healing you could receive is to balance out this skill. The Walking Dead effect in this version is MUCH better than the current version, and IMO the skill would need these other limiters to keep it from being better than other tank immunities.

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Originally Posted by Tex_Mex

What about this:

Living Dead (360s CD):
Grants the effect of Living Dead. When HP is reduced to 0 while under the effect of Living Dead, instead of becoming KO'd, your status will change to Walking Dead.
Living Dead Duration: 10s
While under the effect of Walking Dead, most damage done to you will heal you instead of dealing damage. You cannot be healed higher than 50% of your maximum health while under the Walking Dead effect.
Walking Dead Duration: 8s

This potential solution would do several things:
1) It would play on the concept of a Dark Knight feasting on the souls of its enemies.
2) This solution completely removes healing requirements from the skill. Healers would only need to heal the tank back after the immunity ends.
3) This solution makes Living Dead usable in solo content and significantly better in 4-man content.
4) The reason for the decreased Walking Dead duration, increased CD to 360 sec, and limitation on how much healing you could receive is to balance out this skill. The Walking Dead effect in this version is MUCH better than the current version, and IMO the skill would need these other limiters to keep it from being better than other tank immunities.

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Having a self-healing effect as an invuln sounds cool and all, but making it work like that would put it up there with Hallowed Ground in terms of Invulns, if not better since it relieves Healer Stress compared to Holmgang and Superbolide, which both threaten to kill the Tank when their HP plummets to 1. It’s a great idea on paper but in practice how far would 64k HP take you in Expert or Raids?

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

Having a self-healing effect as an invuln sounds cool and all, but making it work like that would put it up there with Hallowed Ground in terms of Invulns, if not better since it relieves Healer Stress compared to Holmgang and Superbolide, which both threaten to kill the Tank when their HP plummets to 1. It’s a great idea on paper but in practice how far would 64k HP take you in Expert or Raids?

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I don't see anything wrong with having it be at the same power level as Hallowed, since IMO all tank invulns should be relatively similar in power level. As far as relative power levels, I think the way I wrote it is relatively balanced when compared to the other tanks. Using my proposed change, I think it would make Superbolide the weakest of the invulns, but SB and changes to that skill is a different discussion. Of course CD timers and buff lengths can always be edited if balance is too far off, but what I am more concerned with is the concept. A soul stealing move would be nice considering DRK really doesn't have much identity in 5.0

They basically already stated that they feel HG is too strong and want to nerf it but are hesitant to do so because of player backlash.

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Originally Posted by Marxam

I like this idea but it falls short in multi-hitting tank busters/mechanics and cheese strats where the point is to out last the mechanic. The possibility of loosing the clone on the first hit and dying to the second hit could be its biggest downfall. Maybe change it so that the clone has a higher percentage based of your hp (ex. 150% HP) but takes 90% of the dmg and you take 10%? It kinda fits lore-wise harnessing your life energy but still being tied to it. They can even re-use the DA animation, which defined DRK for me in 3.0 and 4.0.

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Having it come in at 150% health should let it handle most cheese mechanics - Survive the first hit, get blown up on the second. I think the only one that might cause problems is long 4 hit ones, but I think only...Titan has that this tier?

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

People would start using that as a DPS tool instead of an oh shit button. It would be popped on CD so that healers could maximize their DPS output during its window.

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I sincerely doubt this. You're going to lose more down the line by using it this way than by using it to mitigate damage that takes more than HoTs to heal.

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

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With the level 80 living shadow ability. I honestly feel Living dead should be deleted from the game. Turned something more fitting for the dark knight class. Would say the ability might be called Shadow Deflector. Tool tips would read something like this. "Summons your living shadow to deflect part of all incoming damage for 10 seconds. Part of the damage will be returned to attacker. During this duration Dark Knight drifts more into the void. Your shadow instantly removes 40% of all incoming damage. Of damage normally recieved 20% of it will be sent back to attacker. Dark Knight gains 30% less healing."

A simple example of this would be. Boss is about to do a tank buster that will do 200k to you with no cooldowns. When using this. The damage is going to instantly loose 80k damage. Bring the damage down to 120k. That is the first part of the ability. The second part of the ability. The shadow will then send 24k damage back to the boss dropping the damage you take from this attack as 96k. With the -30% to all healer. This rough example is for level 80 tank in 470 gear. So you should still be live with like 20% hp if you did not use any other CD.

It can also be something less complicated like. Shadow stops 50% damage over the next 10 seconds. With 50% of the damage it stopped being sent back to the attack. Same example as the first one with 200k tank buster shadow prevents 100k and sends 50k to the boss. You will take 100k damage. With the -30% to all healing.

This is a rough idea and numbers can be changed.

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Originally Posted by DemonicNeko

With the level 80 living shadow ability. I honestly feel Living dead should be deleted from the game. Turned something more fitting for the dark knight class. Would say the ability might be called Shadow Deflector. Tool tips would read something like this. "Summons your living shadow to deflect part of all incoming damage for 10 seconds. Part of the damage will be returned to attacker. During this duration Dark Knight drifts more into the void. Your shadow instantly removes 40% of all incoming damage. Of damage normally recieved 20% of it will be sent back to attacker. Dark Knight gains 30% less healing."

A simple example of this would be. Boss is about to do a tank buster that will do 200k to you with no cooldowns. When using this. The damage is going to instantly loose 80k damage. Bring the damage down to 120k. That is the first part of the ability. The second part of the ability. The shadow will then send 24k damage back to the boss dropping the damage you take from this attack as 96k. This rough example is for level 80 tank in 470 gear. So you should still be live with like 20% hp if you did not use any other CD.

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That’s just a Cooldown like Sentinel. NOT WORTH AT ALL FOR AN INVULN.

All Tanks need an invuln so they can complete all content.

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

That’s just a Cooldown like Sentinel. NOT WORTH AT ALL FOR AN INVULN.

All Tanks need an invuln so they can complete all content.

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Do we really need an invuln? Maybe the problem is not the class ability but the boss mechanics them self. When you go play a game and the only difference between Easy and hard. Is mob hp and damage. That is the most lazy and worse game design. This goes double with tank busters and poor mechanics like this. There more creative ways to do tank swaps. Think the real elephant in the room is poor boss design.

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Originally Posted by DemonicNeko

Do we really need an invuln? Maybe the problem is not the class ability but the boss mechanics them self. When you go play a game and the only difference between Easy and hard. Is mob hp and damage. That is the most lazy and worse game design. This goes double with tank busters and poor mechanics like this. There more creative ways to do tank swaps. Think the real elephant in the room is poor boss design.

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I understand your point, and I agree with you for the most part; however, there is virtually 0 chance that we will move away from this type of encounter design any time soon, and in the mean time, the meta is for all tanks to have an invlun. This was meant to be the "oh shit my other tank is dead and I have a vuln stack, but maybe we can save a wipe anyways" button. The unintended (though it is probably intended at this point) consequence is that invulns can be used to cheese mechanics in order to make encounters easier. See Titania ex tethers for an example. Removing the invuln ability from one tank will insantly drop it to the bottom of the meta barrel. Let's not have a red mage situation over here with DRK now lol.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

I sincerely doubt this. You're going to lose more down the line by using it this way than by using it to mitigate damage that takes more than HoTs to heal.

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Not really. TBN + literally any other mitigation cooldown DRK has already trivializes even the strongest of tankbusters. TBN has much the same effect on wall to wall pulls. If used wisely - with proper mitigation CD staggering - you are about as close to immortal as you can possibly get without being a paladin. Nothing would be lost at all by abusing the suggested mechanic to let healers get in more DPS unless there's some kind of unforeseen major screw up that makes you absolutely need your duplicate just to stay alive. Thing is, it's probably already a wipe if things have gone down hill far enough to force the tank to use its trump card as an actual emergency cooldown rather than the convenience we generally treat them as..

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Originally Posted by Tex_Mex

What about this:

Living Dead (360s CD):
Grants the effect of Living Dead. When HP is reduced to 0 while under the effect of Living Dead, instead of becoming KO'd, your status will change to Walking Dead.
Living Dead Duration: 10s
While under the effect of Walking Dead, most damage done to you will heal you instead of dealing damage. You cannot be healed higher than 50% of your maximum health while under the Walking Dead effect.
Walking Dead Duration: 8s

This potential solution would do several things:
1) It would play on the concept of a Dark Knight feasting on the souls of its enemies.
2) This solution completely removes healing requirements from the skill. Healers would only need to heal the tank back after the immunity ends.
3) This solution makes Living Dead usable in solo content and significantly better in 4-man content.
4) The reason for the decreased Walking Dead duration, increased CD to 360 sec, and limitation on how much healing you could receive is to balance out this skill. The Walking Dead effect in this version is MUCH better than the current version, and IMO the skill would need these other limiters to keep it from being better than other tank immunities.

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Dark Knights don't eat souls. Even souleater, despite its name, is not in any way affecting the opponent's soul. The closest they get is ripping out a small amount of their opponent's aether to heal themselves. Despite how some abilities are named, the job sadly has no actual ties to the abyss. They are simply drawing on their own inner darkness to perform the feats we see.

The cooldown is probably too long for the benefit. Its shortened duration coupled with the lengthy cooldown would make it less desirable for cheesing mechanics than the existing version of Living Dead. Likewise, converting most incoming damage into healing, while very interesting, would pose a massive number of issues for the balance of the game.

I would propose instead that Living Dead instead operates exactly as it does now except for one major change: baked in healing. We take the existing Living Dead - or Walking Dead buff, specifically - and add to it an addendum which states that healing from all sources is increased by 50% for its duration. A secondary effect of this would be an additional 100% (stacking with the initial 50%) increase to all self-generated healing from job actions.
(Note: 150% increased self-healing still isn't enough for a DRK to fully heal itself in the span of the Walking Dead window. That's just a placeholder number. I am uncertain as to the exact percentage increase we would need to make this feasible.)

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Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima

I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but the elephant in the room needs to be addressed soon.

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If the last Live Letter is any indication, FFXIV devs either have no idea there is an issue or are simply ignoring it.

Just like the SB DRK issues.

The only fixes Living Dead needs is a healing modifier (that abilities interact with!) or lessened healing requirement (50%)

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

The only fixes Living Dead needs is a healing modifier (that abilities interact with!) or lessened healing requirement (50%)

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Both would probably be the best bet. Basically anything that would allow DRK at least a CHANCE to save its own skin would be good.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Not really. TBN + literally any other mitigation cooldown DRK has already trivializes even the strongest of tankbusters.

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Except those pesky 300% Vulnerabilities that 3/4 of the current tier uses.

Invulning saves more healing than splitting these.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Except those pesky 300% Vulnerabilities that 3/4 of the current tier uses.

Invulning saves more healing than splitting these.

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People would obviously save it for those rare instances where they would have to be the ones cheesing a mechanic. This will not stop them from using it to get more damage out in virtually all other circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Tex_Mex

I understand your point, and I agree with you for the most part; however, there is virtually 0 chance that we will move away from this type of encounter design any time soon, and in the mean time, the meta is for all tanks to have an invlun. This was meant to be the "oh shit my other tank is dead and I have a vuln stack, but maybe we can save a wipe anyways" button. The unintended (though it is probably intended at this point) consequence is that invulns can be used to cheese mechanics in order to make encounters easier. See Titania ex tethers for an example. Removing the invuln ability from one tank will insantly drop it to the bottom of the meta barrel. Let's not have a red mage situation over here with DRK now lol.

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I do not know about the Titania ex tether as a good example. Most groups use 1 tank to eat 3 hits with the invuln and then 3 dps to eat the other three. If the dps and healers are at full hp. They can eat one tether. Which kinda makes it so you can have all the dps and healers do that part. Yet I understand what you mean. These super tanks busters will kill anyone with out the invuln. Like Titania other tank buster that hits 3 times in a row. First two will put a DRK into walking dead status.

Yes I agree with you Living dead is a shitty ability. I agree it needs change or rework. At the same time buffer healing gain is just a band aid to the problem. We can see right now with th GNB that the devs have no creativity with the invuln skills. Drk is just a shitter version of Warrior. GNB is a shitty version of Paladin. I do feel they could do more creative idea with this stuff. Ok so maybe my idea would work for a different type of cooldown. Maybe we could get a super version of TBN that does like 400% of our max hp. With the bonus effect the barrier can not drop below 1 hp for 10 seconds. This would fit the DRK theme and work as a invuln. Maybe add in the effect any shield left over after 10 seconds becomes a shield for us for 30 second or untell broken.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

People would obviously save it for those rare instances where they would have to be the ones cheesing a mechanic. This will not stop them from using it to get more damage damage out in virtually all other circumstances.

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So...regular dungeons?

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

So...regular dungeons?

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You appear to be under the mistaken impression that the game has only normal dungeons and savage raids.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

You appear to be under the mistaken impression that the game has only normal dungeons and savage raids.

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Seeing as anything that isn't savage basically falls under 'normal', I don't see that being an issue.

Extreme, Alliance, Hard are all variations of 'normal end game content', and I doubt anyone's popping immunities in Ultimate just to get a few DPS GCDs when it doesn't also net a significant mitigation gain.

Rather than requiring a full heal, they could step it back by adding "if you're not healed to full before the end of walking dead you become Waking Dead" debuff could be called 'Waking Dead' and your damage output or something is lessened for 20 seconds.
So, healing to full is still important, but not required. Not sure what else could be done without completely reworking the skill.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Seeing as anything that isn't savage basically falls under 'normal', I don't see that being an issue.

Extreme, Alliance, Hard are all variations of 'normal end game content', and I doubt anyone's popping immunities in Ultimate just to get a few DPS GCDs when it doesn't also net a significant mitigation gain.

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And you would be mistaken in that regard. There are numerous instances of fights, even in different savage modes, where a viable course of action was for tanks to blow their immunities just for the sake of letting everyone go hard on DPS for the duration. It's been considered a perfectly acceptable cheese strat for dealing with tight enrage timers for a very, very long time. Obviously some fights have mechanics that prevent tanks from "wasting" their big cooldowns like that, but the ones that didn't saw some pretty routine abuse.

Anywho, getting back to the original topic: The main reason I say the suggested ability may not be regarded the same as other tank immunities is the fact that it would actually be "killable." Giving it a set HP pool, even a particularly massive one, would in effect make it a much more powerful version of TBN. Granted I still think the idea is actually pretty cool, and I would actually love to see them actually implement it. Not every tank needs a full on lolimmunity. Something like this would be strong enough to work but different enough to be unique. The fact that TBN itself usually prevents the application of status effects by abilities that don't break it would give them precedence for the simulacrum also not allowing the DRK to be afflicted by debuffs that aren't applied by an effect that completely break it.

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Not every tank needs a full on lolimmunity. .

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This is the inspiration for it. I'm generally of the opinion that immunities largely harm tank design instead of enhancing it, as it creates a rather pointed area of obvious disparity that they frankly cannot make up for elsewhere. Imagine the outcry of Paladins getting their potency dumpstered because they have Hallowed Ground.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

This is the inspiration for it. I'm generally of the opinion that immunities largely harm tank design instead of enhancing it, as it creates a rather pointed area of obvious disparity that they frankly cannot make up for elsewhere. Imagine the outcry of Paladins getting their potency dumpstered because they have Hallowed Ground.

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I can agree with this. I can understand giving them some sort of extremely short-lived immunity that prevents a killing blow and bumps them back up to like 25% HP as an absolute last resort in the event of something going terribly awry, but giving access to an on-demand immunity that lasts for 8+ seconds is definitely several steps too far.

This is more of an issue with healers and not DRK. Heal potencies across the classes are really low now. WHM is the only healer worth anything in it's job field. That said. A SCH excognition and auto crit + shield to healz can top you off easily with Adloquim just as quick as a whm not using benediction. You should macro your LD if you haven't.

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Originally Posted by Uliq

That said. A SCH excognition and auto crit + shield to healz can top you off easily with Adloquim just as quick as a whm not using benediction.

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That's assuming Excog and Recitation both happen to be off CD at the time, right as you pop LD. The odds of that are pretty low.

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

That's assuming Excog and Recitation both happen to be off CD at the time, right as you pop LD. The odds of that are pretty low.

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Still a healer issue not a darks. The game currently relies heavily on whm due to it having 13 heals all higher potency and mostly none sharing a cooldown. most whms don't even use their resource for healing while sch is stuck relying on multiple timers for its abilities along with low potencies and AST may as well be a support dps with the nuber of actual heal abilities it has and their actual heal output besides Essential dignity.

Would be nice if something like benediction was a role skill for healers. WHM players might whine a bit but everyone else wont. Just give WHM something else unique to compensate

I like everyone giving ideas but in my opinion Living dead would be better with the effect of: when the player hp hit 0 he dont die. And thats all i mean something like holmang were you are invulnerable to death. Make it 1 or 2 seconds longer because if when effects end you are in 0 hp you die and the warrior at least have 1 hp.

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Originally Posted by Rathael

Would be nice if something like benediction was a role skill for healers. WHM players might whine a bit but everyone else wont. Just give WHM something else unique to compensate

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I’d rather not. We don’t want to repeat Stormblood where we threw most of WHM’s utilities to other Healers. Plus, it’s healing we’re talking about.

Every time I see this thread this goes through my head:

I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride
I'm wanted (wanted!) dead or alive

I'm starting to think Dead or Alive would make a great skill name only I'm not sure if DRK or GNB would be more appropriate for it.

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Originally Posted by Wyndam

Every time I see this thread this goes through my head:

I'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride
I'm wanted (wanted!) dead or alive

I'm starting to think Dead or Alive would make a great skill name only I'm not sure if DRK or GNB would be more appropriate for it.

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It’d make more sense on DRK given its theme of life or death. Still, I’ve been thinking for a bit:

Living Dead
Cooldown: 240s

Applies Living Dead to self.

Living Dead: If HP is reduced to 0, this effect restores HP equal to the damage taken from the previous attack and applies Back from the Brink.
Duration: 7s

Back from the Brink: Reduces Damage taken by 90%.
Duration: 7s

If Living Dead were done this way, it’d make it very, very close to a Tank Invuln due to the 90% Damage Reduction after you take a hit that would kill you(i.e. Titania Lightning Tether), and also the HP Restored from a big hit. It’d help alleviate Healers a bit in dungeons as well who might be struggling to keep up at the moment too.

The 240s CD is tentative, since an ability like this would be beneficial unless there’s a situation that reduces HP to 1 as an effect for a Tank Buster.

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Originally Posted by Rathael

Would be nice if something like benediction was a role skill for healers. WHM players might whine a bit but everyone else wont. Just give WHM something else unique to compensate

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This isn't needed at all since they all have their own versions. Just two of those has been nerfed to hell while WHM wasn't touched.