Are FCs "guilds" or LSes "guilds"

I really can't figure this out after seeing how fragmented the community is on US servers like Balmung. It's like the individualistic culture of western civilization just overrode any kind of common sense, and everyone set off to make an FC just to get a house. Then they realized they needed benefits, so they decided to pretend to be guilds and recruit people just to rank up the FC.

And then the end game feels like pickup group hell because no one can get enough people at any one point in time to do anything except the most basic of content, with learning parties basically being dead after the first two weeks of content release.

I know there are "real" guilds with people that are organizing events and actually doing content, but it feels like that is the exception rather than the norm.

Does anyone else feel this way? I'm seriously feeling burned already just trying to get people to come together and do end game content. It's like they think an organized group in discord is going to be drill Sargent land just because of how aggressive the pugs are with purging people who started EX content late, just hit end game, or don't have a schedule that fits with most pickup groups.

Come to Aether. We have cookies!

FCs are Guilds, and Linkshells are Social Circles. You're better off looking for group clearing linkshells, personally.

Your strange hatred of individualism aside, I think your situation is not that uncommon. What you are looking for is a "static", which is usually organized by discord, partyfinder recruitment and/or linkshells.

FFXIV has the big advantage that you can socialize with anyone, without having to sort out those who will slow down content progression of more ambitious players. Guilds like in WoW, that pretty much need to be organized in a way that sorts out players by game skill and time investment, not so much social structures, are part and parcel why MMORPGs are lacking in community.

FC are the proper guild-like experience, they have access to enhanced housing : airship/submarine and other cosntruction project requiring a group. They have access to many bonuses via GC action.

LS are merely channel people use around fixed activity : hunting, being a lalafell or Raiding static.

FC works like every other guild-like feature I've seen in my MMO experience so far.

People creating FC/guild to get the bonus is a norm in every game, joining a friends FC or a static raiding/progress FC is the norm too like in every other MMO I played. Different players for different approach of guild feature is norm in every MMO cause its a massive multiplayer game.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

It's like the individualistic culture of western civilization just overrode any kind of common sense, and everyone set off to make an FC just to get a house.

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It's a free civilization.

You are not alone. To your question, I would tend to reply "both and neither". For a part, the community tend to fragment because of dramas.

There are dramas comming from new players in MMO who feel that HL players don't pay attention to low levels.
The dramas that come from stalkers.
The dramas that comes from entitled players :
_Hey watch how PGM I am. Admire me. Praise me.
_That's not Fortnite, LoL or some kind of e-sport. You're totally anonymous man, please give me a break. I don't care about your FFlog and what you think about mine.

and probably others.

There are also players who are here from the ARR beta and have seen a lot of player just leaving and who don't really feel to start everything from scratch again and again.

For a part, some players rush for whatever reason and people who want to take the time are left behind.

Then there are two solutions : playing somehow as a mercenary or trying to find big FC.

There are also people who are making a static and end creating their own guild because they are a static (and to escape dramas).

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Originally Posted by Niyuka

Your strange hatred of individualism aside, I think your situation is not that uncommon. What you are looking for is a "static", which is usually organized by discord, partyfinder recruitment and/or linkshells.

FFXIV has the big advantage that you can socialize with anyone, without having to sort out those who will slow down content progression of more ambitious players. Guilds like in WoW, that pretty much need to be organized in a way that sorts out players by game skill and time investment, not so much social structures, are part and parcel why MMORPGs are lacking in community.

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I think there is a situation right now where it can be hard to find an event simply due to the number of different channels events can get organized under. For instance, if someone makes an LS to do hunts, they'd probably shout to get people into the initial LS and then those people would make sure the LS stays alive by advertising it. But now, we also have Cross World LS, so people have to be recruited for the Cross world LS and then they have to also keep it alive. Plus those people have to be spread across all available servers. This is on top of the FC system already in place.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

I think there is a situation right now where it can be hard to find an event simply due to the number of different channels events can get organized under. For instance, if someone makes an LS to do hunts, they'd probably shout to get people into the initial LS and then those people would make sure the LS stays alive by advertising it. But now, we also have Cross World LS, so people have to be recruited for the Cross world LS and then they have to also keep it alive. Plus those people have to be spread across all available servers. This is on top of the FC system already in place.

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There are people who are willing to share hunt/fate callouts to their other LSs and their own FC. I used to have a macro that does just that to all 8 of my LSs and my FC, though I haven't been in a hunt LS since Stormblood so I no longer have need of it.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

I think there is a situation right now where it can be hard to find an event simply due to the number of different channels events can get organized under. For instance, if someone makes an LS to do hunts, they'd probably shout to get people into the initial LS and then those people would make sure the LS stays alive by advertising it. But now, we also have Cross World LS, so people have to be recruited for the Cross world LS and then they have to also keep it alive. Plus those people have to be spread across all available servers. This is on top of the FC system already in place.

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Things like Cross-World Linkshells were made at the behest of players so that they could more easily communicate in-game with friends that they may have on different servers from their home server, something that FCs cannot provide as you can only be in an FC on your home server. Most of the CWLS I’m in are just a bunch of friends that don’t share the same server—we use them to chitchat, complain, or ask for help/advice without having to alt-tab or utilize a separate device (if you’re a console player) for Discord.

That events such as Hunts were organized using these venues is not all that surprising, as now Hunters from different servers can collaborate together to do what they enjoy. The same can be said for statics—honestly, it’s wonderful to be in a CWLS with my static mates because we can discuss things in-game as well as in our Discord without having to be in a party together.

As for Hunt callouts, I’ve been in LS prior to CWLS that advertised the Marks in multiple discords. Even the Novice Network on my server gets calls for S-ranks. So I don’t think there’s any issues with keeping these venues alive.

Well I got disillusioned by FC's and their promises, only to find that that's all they were promises that were never kept. In the end I use party finder/duty finder to do all the stuff I want to (not interested in statics or anything like that tbh not much of a raider) and myself and my partner have created an FC for ourselves so we have somewhere to chat and also not be inundated with blind FC invites. We're now much happier that way.

I guess if I ever get interested in doing end game content (no where near end game atm) then I'll look for a link shell that does that stuff, but until then I'm happy with the way things are :)

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Originally Posted by Kelani

Well I got disillusioned by FC's and their promises, only to find that that's all they were promises that were never kept. In the end I use party finder/duty finder to do all the stuff I want to (not interested in statics or anything like that tbh not much of a raider) and myself and my partner have created an FC for ourselves so we have somewhere to chat and also not be inundated with blind FC invites. We're now much happier that way.

I guess if I ever get interested in doing end game content (no where near end game atm) then I'll look for a link shell that does that stuff, but until then I'm happy with the way things are :)

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The FCs did act like guild back when I first played the game in 2.0. It was after I came back for the later half of heavensward that I found the game had changed. It felt like people got spread too thin and that the housing system was partly to blame.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

The FCs did act like guild back when I first played the game in 2.0. It was after I came back for the later half of heavensward that I found the game had changed. It felt like people got spread too thin and that the housing system was partly to blame.

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FC's don't really have an advantage when it comes to housing purchases. That only happened once to my knowledge when housing was released for Shirogane and it may not have been in the initial release but only in the follow up fix it patch that came later

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Originally Posted by Colt47

I really can't figure this out after seeing how fragmented the community is on US servers like Balmung. It's like the individualistic culture of western civilization just overrode any kind of common sense, and everyone set off to make an FC just to get a house. Then they realized they needed benefits, so they decided to pretend to be guilds and recruit people just to rank up the FC.

And then the end game feels like pickup group hell because no one can get enough people at any one point in time to do anything except the most basic of content, with learning parties basically being dead after the first two weeks of content release.

I know there are "real" guilds with people that are organizing events and actually doing content, but it feels like that is the exception rather than the norm.

Does anyone else feel this way? I'm seriously feeling burned already just trying to get people to come together and do end game content. It's like they think an organized group in discord is going to be drill Sargent land just because of how aggressive the pugs are with purging people who started EX content late, just hit end game, or don't have a schedule that fits with most pickup groups.

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I've been in two FCs now that turned out to just to be gil mills for the leader who pretended to care about the members. The last one even had a cultish fallout of drama, apparently I wasn't allowed to leave it lol. There's always so many edgelords and creeps to deal with too, I got really tired of it and decided to just make a 2-man FC with my SO so we could enjoy the perks of having an FC house to ourselves. And join LSs for the social aspects we want. It's a lot less mentally taxing this way, at least in our experience.

Sad to hear that so many people have had bad experiences with FCs. I've been part of 5 FCs since I started playing, and every single one was a pleasant, friendly social space.

FCs are guilds and they have other perks than housing. FC buffs and company workshops. If personal houses ever get their own workshops FCs will probably die. On Balmung, that's all you'll mostly find is cliques in the FCs, including the really big ones. As for the lack of inviting you to content, it's more likeable that it's because they don't care about the content. I tried to make a PvE FC over here on Balmung and I keep getting laughed at for not being RP focused since that's most all anyone wants to do over here is RP and play with glamours. I think honestly this data center has taken the whole glamour is the real endgame meme a bit to seriously. All my friends keep leaving the server because PF is an absolute nightmare. Don't even bother joining FCs to help with content unless it's for roulettes, old primal farms, or maps. This basically sums up the only content you'll ever see FCs do.

I'm still trying to get my FC off the ground and already had like 5 different non-FC members try to tell me I should make it into some kind of RP FC with no more than 10 members and that's just not my thing...

I just want to get people through Eden Normal -> Titania EX -> Innocence EX -> Savage Eden without them getting berated by angry people in Party Finder. Also, I actually like the FC I'm in now because people in it actually post events and attend them. That's literally what I want out of an FC: Some kind of structured event schedule to keep people interested. Otherwise, why not just run off and do PF?

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Originally Posted by Colt47

I just want to get people through Eden Normal -> Titania EX -> Innocence EX -> Savage Eden without them getting berated by angry people in Party Finder. Also, I actually like the FC I'm in now because people in it actually post events and attend them. That's literally what I want out of an FC: Some kind of structured event schedule to keep people interested. Otherwise, why not just run off and do PF?

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I like this too, and a lot of FCs actually do events. The problem is very few people actually show up. Mostly just due to the fact it's incompatible with everyone's schedule which is really nobody's fault.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

FC's don't really have an advantage when it comes to housing purchases. That only happened once to my knowledge when housing was released for Shirogane and it may not have been in the initial release but only in the follow up fix it patch that came later

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FCs have 3 advantages that I'm aware of when it comes to purchasing housing:

1. FC house purchases do not have the same restrictions as personal houses. No need to be Second Lieutenant in Grand Company etc. As long, as you can access the housing area and have 4 members in the FC(can even be alts), you can purchase an FC house.

2. If new housing is released in 5.2 like 4.2, FCs will have first dibs on new house plots as individual buyers will be restricted from purchasing plots initially. I fully expect people to create shell FCs to buy houses either for themselves or to flip/sell.

3. A single service account can own 8 FC houses. 1 purchased normally, 7 through transfer of FC leadership. FC houses offer a significant Market Board advantage as a single FC house can generate at least, 5-10 million gil a week through airships/submarines, gardens etc

SE seriously needs to re-evaluate current housing. Currently, it's possible for just 100 players owning 8 FC houses to own ~20% of the houses on a server, 800/4320(Total number of house plots on a world).

Instanced housing would guarantee everyone gets 1 personal and 1 FC house.

People who want to own houses in persistent wards can contest plots in existing wards(legacy wards in the future).

There are not true guilds in ffxiv because there really isn't a need for it. You can do everything, outside ultimate, with pick up groups and you barely have to leave your house to do it. That is the way ffxiv is specifically designed. This is an mmo that is more of a coop game than a true mmo. You only need to interact with others by clicking on join pt or join roulette. You don't need to even say hello or goodbye if you don't want to. You don't need to participate in any chat or depend on anyone for absolutely anything. Heck you cant even give constructive criticism without someone loosing their mind. So the best you can hope for is that the party will pull its weight.

I have an FC here on Sarg. I tried for a long long time to run it like a guild, I had a guild in ffxi that lasted from 2005ish to 2012 with the same core group of people and we were great friends and did a lot for and with each other. But here I couldn't get ppl to show up for raids, no one would wait for others to finish what they were doing to run roulettes together or do maps, no one was willing to help teach things, no one could show up on time for anything scheduled and then some would go berserk over not completing content. I eventually turned it into a solo FC then invited some rl friends who barely play anyway but when they do they at least have access to a house.

You don't need people cause you can just do whatever, whenever and that is not conducive to creating a tight nit group that rely on each other long enough to form any sort of relationship.

This is not a social game unless you go out of your way to make it that way. So coming to ffxiv and expecting any semblance of a guild they way it is in other games, or the way it was in the past, is going to do nothing but bring you disappointment. If you are looking for the true guild experience, my suggestion would be to look somewhere else, because its all but impossible here.

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

There are not true guilds in ffxiv because there really isn't a need for it. You can do everything, outside ultimate, with pick up groups and you barely have to leave your house to do it. That is the way ffxiv is specifically designed. This is an mmo that is more of a coop game than a true mmo. You only need to interact with others by clicking on join pt or join roulette. You don't need to even say hello or goodbye if you don't want to. You don't need to participate in any chat or depend on anyone for absolutely anything. Heck you cant even give constructive criticism without someone loosing their mind. So the best you can hope for is that the party will pull its weight.

I have an FC here on Sarg. I tried for a long long time to run it like a guild, I had a guild in ffxi that lasted from 2005ish to 2012 with the same core group of people and we were great friends and did a lot for and with each other. But here I couldn't get ppl to show up for raids, no one would wait for others to finish what they were doing to run roulettes together or do maps, no one was willing to help teach things, no one could show up on time for anything scheduled and then some would go berserk over not completing content. I eventually turned it into a solo FC then invited some rl friends who barely play anyway but when they do they at least have access to a house.

You don't need people cause you can just do whatever, whenever and that is not conducive to creating a tight nit group that rely on each other long enough to form any sort of relationship.

This is not a social game unless you go out of your way to make it that way. So coming to ffxiv and expecting any semblance of a guild they way it is in other games, or the way it was in the past, is going to do nothing but bring you disappointment. If you are looking for the true guild experience, my suggestion would be to look somewhere else, because its all but impossible here.

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This sums up my experiences perfectly and if I were on your server you seem like someone I'd like to get behind. You said it best, this game isn't that social in the grand scheme. Things like Novice Network and statics create the illusion it is but it really isn't. To a certain degree I kind of blame Discord. Linkshells and FC chats were all the rage before Discord became a mandatory form of communication. Even joining an FC, you have to rely on discord for most guild updates or notices. Most in-game social networking is done through Discord, and personally I struggle to keep up with Discord chats when I have 30 servers with 10 channels apiece and I'm in the middle of a roulette.

Some reason, it's just really hard to get a new fresh FC off the ground these days. Recruiting isn't the hard part, it's convincing people to stay that is. I can't tell you how many FCs I have ran that I have given up on as the leader because the members would not be engaging and the very moment I say I am disbanding the FC, they all vulture to me asking for the house claiming they could revive it. Where were you prior to this decision? Half the time when someone logs in, they don't even say hello when you say hi to them. I feel most people join FCs with an agenda in mind such as using it for Heat of Battle or a private chambers and that's about it. Guilds are just really hard to get into. The really big ones are so big your voice is never really heard. You get drowned out and talked over. There are never any chances for leadership promotion opportunities because the spots are always filled. The small ones are so small and cliquey you feel like a misfit trying to fit into the clique that so far doesn't even have similar interests as you. And something both have in common, you join an FC really distasting the housing decoration and really wish someone would redecorate it but stay because you like the people so far.

I play with the friends I made raiding in Heavensward and Stormblood, fish, and wait for August 27th. I have an FC and three social Linkshells, but I usually turn on Netflix because there's not much talk going on. That's just kind of how the game is.

If you need a consistent schedule, a proper static raiding group is the way to go. The same 8 people every week, on nights you've all agreed on.

God forbid anyone put in any effort to socialize and figure out how to find a static.

Free Companies are "guilds", Linkshells are the equivalent of custom chat channels in other MMOs. The way you're looking at it is most definitely not the norm. It has nothing to do with "individualistic nature" (most of the people playing this game lean towards a more JP mentality to be entirely honest, not to mention "western culture" is all about following the crowd these days if you haven't realized), people just gravitate to social groups that do the same things that they do, like in real life.

You said you had an FC that hosts events and social things, so it's frankly a bit bizarre where that rant is coming from since there are a lot of really big FCs out there that do the same thing and they are definitely not hard to find. However, FCs are not statics or raid groups, they're guilds and "guild" doesn't mean everyone is attached at the hip and running all the content in any MMO, especially not savage or ultimate. They're simply organizations of people. Many FCs have their own in-house statics that you can join, but that is not the primary purpose of an FC. FCs are general-purpose unless they're specifically geared towards raiding or any other particular niche.

If you want to run endgame content or savage, find a static and get involved in the raiding community like everyone else that does it. It's not going to come to you.

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I noticed this too. When it was Teamspeak or Mumble, it was different but since Discord is released, FC chats ended to be silent, everything is going on Discord.

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Originally Posted by YojimboM

Many FCs have their own in-house statics that you can join, but that is not the primary purpose of an FC.

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That's the theory, most FC I met since ARR beta had problems because of static matters.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

the very moment I say I am disbanding the FC, they all vulture to me asking for the house claiming they could revive it. Where were you prior to this decision?.

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omg don't even get me started on this part. In ffxi we all had our roles, everyone pitched in and it ran like a well oiled machine. We each led different raids while keeping our 'help a newb' program going, we all recruited and things were very democratic. It worked wonderfully due to mutual respect. We all kept up our parts and we all put in effort both in battle and in our roles in the ls, no one needed to be carried, everyone got loot.

Here I tried to promote ppl to help me out. They didn't do....anything. No one helped recruit, everyone wanted to lead a raid and then just wouldn't, and getting them to chat was nearly impossible. Finally a couple years ago I was in the final stretch of uni and told ppl, I need help. I am in the library or studio til 2am and I cant be here as much. No one...not a single person stepped up. They just all wanted me to do it. One girl went as far as cussing me out on discord cause she wasn't progressing and she felt it was my fault. Even though she was notorious to sign up for primal farms or 8 mans and no show. She was in my fc for nearly a year and only showed up once. Her screeching in voice chat almost made my ears bleed. So I kicked and blisted her. (her bf sent me a tell later apologizing for her behavior, he was in the fc too).

But it was after no one stepped up that I just made an announcement, gave everyone a week notice and kicked them after. But that whole week people wanted the fc, cause they could do better, we could do great things if we just work together, yada yada yada. Its like Oh just piss off.

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omg don't even get me started on this part. In ffxi we all had our roles, everyone pitched in and it ran like a well oiled machine. We each led different raids while keeping our 'help a newb' program going, we all recruited and things were very democratic. It worked wonderfully due to mutual respect. We all kept up our parts and we all put in effort both in battle and in our roles in the ls, no one needed to be carried, everyone got loot.

Here I tried to promote ppl to help me out. They didn't do....anything. No one helped recruit, everyone wanted to lead a raid and then just wouldn't, and getting them to chat was nearly impossible. Finally a couple years ago I was in the final stretch of uni and told ppl, I need help. I am in the library or studio til 2am and I cant be here as much. No one...not a single person stepped up. They just all wanted me to do it. One girl went as far as cussing me out on discord cause she wasn't progressing and she felt it was my fault. Even though she was notorious to sign up for primal farms or 8 mans and no show. She was in my fc for nearly a year and only showed up once. Her screeching in voice chat almost made my ears bleed. So I kicked and blisted her. (her bf sent me a tell later apologizing for her behavior, he was in the fc too).

But it was after no one stepped up that I just made an announcement, gave everyone a week notice and kicked them after. But that whole week people wanted the fc, cause they could do better, we could do great things if we just work together, yada yada yada. Its like Oh just piss off.

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I kind of like this conversation and would like to hear more from you about it, would you mind if I contacted you in-game and chat a bit? Would give my discord here but don't really wanna throw that out publicly. xD

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Originally Posted by YojimboM

God forbid anyone put in any effort to socialize and figure out how to find a static.

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If you want to run endgame content or savage, find a static and get involved in the raiding community like everyone else that does it. It's not going to come to you.

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I'm actually making an organized playgroup and FYI if someone wants to use the word static one more time I'm going to take a giant salmon and slap them across the face several times because the term does little to inform of the amount of work required to get people comfortable working together, caught up on gear, and then breaking down the garbage barrier that PF has created from all the idiots running duty complete only and no one wanting to help late comers.

Also, thank you everyone who does go through the pains of doing so: you are making the game a better place.

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Originally Posted by YojimboM

You said you had an FC that hosts events and social things, so it's frankly a bit bizarre where that rant is coming from since there are a lot of really big FCs out there that do the same thing and they are definitely not hard to find. However, FCs are not statics or raid groups, they're guilds and "guild" doesn't mean everyone is attached at the hip and running all the content in any MMO, especially not savage or ultimate. They're simply organizations of people. Many FCs have their own in-house statics that you can join, but that is not the primary purpose of an FC. FCs are general-purpose unless they're specifically geared towards raiding or any other particular niche.

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Okay, so looking at FFXIVCencus, your total active server population does not even come close to balmung, yet at the same time, you are on a server that obviously has a different situation when it comes to FCs. Also looking at Ultros compared to Balmung, your server has over twice as many unique characters.

So, Ultros isn't locked, seems to have a healthier meta when it comes to FCs, and fewer active characters. Where has this been discussed before?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...mmunity/page19

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ead_and_empty/


Case in point, I think your post is making me think more about moving off Balmung to Ultros simply because it probably will be easier to form the kind of group I'm after. You're view point shows that on your server, FCs that have statics built in still exist. Balmung does not have this anymore as far as I can tell because of the dam being closed on players. Also I'm aware of the age on those posts, but the discussions have continued past that point on both Reddit and the main message board, so it still stands even today.

Edit: Yeah, after looking even further into posts over the history of the forums here and in reddit, the reason we have the community on Balmung mostly using PF and not forming statics is due to the outflow problem of players leaving from across all social circles. If a social circle drops too much in number, they wont be able to manage their own static.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

I kind of like this conversation and would like to hear more from you about it, would you mind if I contacted you in-game and chat a bit? Would give my discord here but don't really wanna throw that out publicly. xD

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Anytime, I am always happen to chat

I see my FC as a guild and LSs as a way to chat with friends I can’t be in the same FC with

I guess I'm really lucky, because my FC acts like a "real" guild. We hang out, run content together, and our chat is usually humming.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

I'm actually making an organized playgroup and FYI if someone wants to use the word static one more time I'm going to take a giant salmon and slap them across the face several times because the term does little to inform of the amount of work required to get people comfortable working together, caught up on gear, and then breaking down the garbage barrier that PF has created from all the idiots running duty complete only and no one wanting to help late comers.

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If you're creating it, you're allowed to make your own terms for joining. A static doesn't mean starting from scratch, typically you'd want to recruit like-minded people who are also ready to begin to step into raiding rather that people who aren't even at that point yet. You can require that people are geared and have put in the effort to learn their job, etc. There are many levels and varieties of statics and typically if you're looking to get better at raiding, you'll find yourself gradually moving up from beginner to casual to intermediate to even hardcore if you get that motivated.

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Originally Posted by Colt47

Okay, so looking at FFXIVCencus, your total active server population does not even come close to balmung, yet at the same time, you are on a server that obviously has a different situation when it comes to FCs.

Case in point, I think your post is making me think more about moving off Balmung to Ultros simply because it probably will be easier to form the kind of group I'm after. You're view point shows that on your server, FCs that have statics built in still exist. Balmung does not have this anymore as far as I can tell because of the dam being closed on players. Also I'm aware of the age on those posts, but the discussions have continued past that point on both Reddit and the main message board, so it still stands even today.

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Balmung got moved onto Crystal and a lot of the oldblood players and raiders transferred over to Aether and Primal from there. I've heard a lot of bad things about raiding and PF on Crystal, so it is probably due to the growing pains and lack of a real veteran community beyond players on Balmung and Goblin to keep things together on the DC. The number of brand new players and raiders there will make things more difficult than usual, especially ones that are non-committal or simply not ready to start raiding seriously. Your best bet would be to just transfer to Aether or Primal if you are that interested in joining a static, and joining a pre-established one most likely.

I would not personally recommend Ultros in specific. It's not a particularly special world for endgame or raiding.

And no, my "viewpoint" is not based specifically on my server. FCs with their own in-house statics exist everywhere, not only here. Nearly every major prog static is based in a specific FC and none of those are on Ultros.

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Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido

I like this too, and a lot of FCs actually do events. The problem is very few people actually show up. Mostly just due to the fact it's incompatible with everyone's schedule which is really nobody's fault.

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Scheduling (Savage) is probably the worst thing about trying to organize things as a FC lol. Took a bit but so far my FC now has a schedule for both a static and events for others.