I LOVE the MNK and SAM changes. I've wanted Form Shift to reset your GL since day one and now it does. Wanted Iaijutsu to be instant and now it is. All through leveling SAM to 80 i wanted a way to reset my SENs in between trash pulls and boss down time and now Hagakure is back. Thank you, thank you, thank you SE.
(Now just remove positonals on melee and you might get me away from DNC :) )
Thank You SE. (No Really)
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07-30-2019, 07:05 PMBurningskullThank You SE. (No Really)
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07-30-2019, 07:48 PMReiMakoto
Iaijustu still has a cast time, its just the second Iajutsu from the cd that is instant
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07-30-2019, 07:56 PMFlay_wind
The changes do not concern me yet, since i just recently started and i am currently level 50 MNK doing post ARR MSQ, but i can already see a lot less headache maintaining GL in the future.
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07-30-2019, 08:25 PMgumas
one of my suggestion for MNK to open all 5 chakra outside combat is really happened.
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07-30-2019, 09:00 PMsilverdragontyr
So... Monk is stupid good now. These changes are amazing. The only "issue" is now there is no reason to ever use TK unless you're certain it can end the fight. Since you can keep GL up basically indefinitely, the offset of losing the stacks is never worth it unless you know 100% you'll lose them anyways. Love the changes just would like to see this ability changed. I'd say potency buffed, but Mnk is already a literal monster lol.
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07-30-2019, 11:42 PMBurningskullOops. That's still a good change tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReiMakoto
Hmm. What they could do with Tornado Kick is make it like Foul. Where if you stay in GL3 for 30 - 45s you get Tornado Kick. Then they could make Tornado Kick evolve into Six Sided Star.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverdragontyr
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07-31-2019, 02:04 AMarmandojc3
Kinda wish i didnt main monk in the last expansion, he is great now but im kinda burned out on playing him.
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07-31-2019, 02:12 AMArkenneAs a shadow of its former self, granting 5 Kenki per Sen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burningskull
Its a Sen dump inbetween pulls or phase changes, but of no importance for the main rotation sadly.
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07-31-2019, 07:12 AMBurningskullThat's the only reason I wanted it back lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Arkenne
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07-31-2019, 07:59 AMEspHaving Hagakure return 20 Kenki per Sen ON TOP of the new Kenki gain ability (Haven't remembered all of the new ability names yet ><) would be pretty OP, as SAMs would be swimming in Kenki and Shinten uses, which seems kinda broken to me. I am not a SAM main though, but that is just how I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkenne
I knew when it came back, it had to have something changed, and I was right. xD -
07-31-2019, 08:46 AMKabooa
Hagakure should have given 1 Meditate per Sen instead of 5 Kenki. Slap the ole 40 second cooldown back onto it. Reward good play with Shoha while still keeping it as a tool to reset your combo if need be.
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07-31-2019, 09:11 AMwaterboytkdHonestly, I think they need to rework Tornado Kick, Anatman, and Six-sided Star now. Form Shift is how you save GL stacks during downtime. The others are too niche (or weird in the case of using Anatman in an opener). I think this idea to make an ability like Foul is really good, but I'd do Six-sided Star instead (since that's our 80 ability, and whatever ability requires you to sit at max GL for X time is going to have high potency). Then I'd make Tornado Kick have a longer cooldown and less potency, but it builds a stack of GL (so good for openers to quickly get to 4, then just decent extra oGCD damage after that). As for Anatman...I think it needs a complete remake. Having something worked into the opener and only functioning in that opener if you're tracking server ticks? Yuck. Maybe it could be something cool with Chakra? Not really sure about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burningskull
EDIT: Holy cow, I failed at Reading Comprehension here. Your idea of upgrading TK into 6SS is actually pretty good. Then, Anatman could be an ability that just builds a free stack of GL, unless you already have max GL. Then, it opens X chakra instead? -
07-31-2019, 03:42 PMCarstienPhase transitions still exist. Can get two uses of sss + tk on e1s alone not including your last hit of the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverdragontyr
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07-31-2019, 03:59 PMwereotterThat 45 minute attack animation in E1 says we'll still be using Tornado Kick :PQuote:
Originally Posted by silverdragontyr
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07-31-2019, 07:35 PMBurningskullI think what they should do with Chakra is make it work like they did with BRDs DoTs. Instead of procing off Crit it should proc off Weaponskills. Even if they have to lower the chance to 20% upgraded to 35% with the new trait. Or just make it like old WAR Wrath stacks and you get a Chakra every 3rd hit of your combo. I don't know what the Anatman opener is but I think that ability will be removed eventually UNLESS they turn that into an attack that will freeze your GL timer for 15 - 30s so you can keep GL through Phase Transitions. Even then tho that's very situational and I'm not a fan of situational abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by waterboytkd
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08-01-2019, 12:45 AMArkenneThis is fair, it was also quite the issue for me to start a battle with 2 flowers and throw out a gimped Midare at the beginning...Quote:
Originally Posted by Burningskull
Hardly, it would have been broken for the SAM rotation, because now it would need to account for the Hagakure layer. But it has been saying that SAM's pDPS is undertuned and the original Hagakure would have been quite the interesting solution IMO, without having to increase potencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Esp
Besides, with Tsubame Gaeshi (now a skill truer to its name), Hagakure would have been a lower priority over Midare anyway.
But I digress, its not like it'll be back like what it used to be, I just would have liked for the description to be included in the patch notes.