I'd like for the dungeons to also be explorable in the overworld map

It would really open the world up with more complex landscapes for exploration.

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Originally Posted by seraf

It would really open the world up with more complex landscapes for exploration.

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I'd love a few like that too, the only question is how would they handle players who can just walk in with you, unless you mean still instenced just able to walk in vs queing

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Originally Posted by seraf

It would really open the world up with more complex landscapes for exploration.

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Not always possible, like Dhon Mheg which is literally magic, and fairly often it'd just be a lot of wasted memory, so maybe a couple dungeons sure? I don't know, WoW does it with some of their outdoor dungeons yet they're mostly empty space and among the simplest designed dungeons too

Your request is not without merit, but given the design of FF14 areas, would be likely too much work for no real reason

THere are some dungeon environments that would be amazing for RP. However I don't think this is a feasible use of developer time to implement.

Unfortunately, dungeons will remain instanced - Yoshi was asked this very question back during the Beta test, and he categorically said "no". Dungeons will always be instanced only sadly. :(

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Unfortunately, dungeons will remain instanced - Yoshi was asked this very question back during the Beta test, and he categorically said "no". Dungeons will always be instanced only sadly. :(

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I don't want them to be open world dungeons I just want the locations to be explorable in the world.

I'd be fine just being able to walk around and explore a cleared dungeon without a timer. Or at least with a longer one. There are some great locations that would make for incredible screenshots, and there isn't time to do that while fighting.

It would be kind of fun if the option to zone into it with no monsters became unlocked after you cleared it.

But how would you handle the hard mode dungeons? The map is substantially altered in some of them. If you zoned in from the connecting zone, would you always go to the latest one you cleared, making the original version only accessible via the duty roulette again?

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Originally Posted by seraf

I don't want them to be open world dungeons I just want the locations to be explorable in the world.

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This would be an issue in that they would need to physically locate every dungeon in the world. Essentially expanding the map.
Most MMOs that i'm aware of only have faux entrances to dungeons with a threshold that loads you into the instance when you cross it. There won't actually be an explorable zone behind that entrance. Usually just a wall or corridor that's angled in a way to appear that theres something accessible on the other side.
The actual dungeon you travel through is its own zone that doesn't exist on the world map, which is why if you fall through the floor and look up, all you see is the dungeon floating in a skybox.

So by asking for them to be explorable in the open world, you are actually asking them to physically place the entirety of the dungeon map into the world zone and have it be sized appropriately. Theres also the problem of Hard Modes having different layouts. Which one do you put in the open world?

Its too much work for too little payoff. Most would visit once to sightsee and then never go back. Sure you'd get the odd few that spend a lot of time in them but there just wouldn't be enough to justify the workload.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I'd be fine just being able to walk around and explore a cleared dungeon without a timer. Or at least with a longer one. There are some great locations that would make for incredible screenshots, and there isn't time to do that while fighting.

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Average clear time is 20~ minutes.
You have a 90 minute timer to start.
After clearing, just hit Return to go back to the entrance and then you have over an hour to make your screenshots.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

Average clear time is 20~ minutes.
You have a 90 minute timer to start.
After clearing, just hit Return to go back to the entrance and then you have over an hour to make your screenshots.

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Stick around after final loot rolls some time. It gives you a shorter timer (I believe 5-10 minutes) before ending the instance.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Stick around after final loot rolls some time. It gives you a shorter timer (I believe 5-10 minutes) before ending the instance.

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Admittedly, the last time I stuck around after a clear was ARR AK to do a Chest run since everyone avoided the chests during the clear, I don't remember being so limited on time back then. But things change I guess.

I could see so many crafter/gather opportunities with having dungeons be explorable. Bayflox longstop and hauke manor I always felt should just be an open part of the world. It's fairly open looking as it is. Any dungeon after clearing the hard mode should be opened up for casual exploration I thought once upon a time. Newer dungeons are a lot more linear than the ARR ones tho so it's hard to really open them up.

I don't understand why diadem is instanced... Just make it an open zone already since it's never used. Would get more traffic I bet.

You just run a dungeon unsynced if you want to take yur time and explore. And with newer dungeons, there is an 80 minute time limit and most of the time, it takes about 20 minutes or less to clear, most of them allow you to back track.