The Only One Change Game [Tanks]

Premise: A thought exercise. In here, we attempt to provide the most positive change to a Job in question with just one change. This one change has a variety of what the scope can entail, so here are a few examples.

1. Changing when an Action is learned.
2. Changing an Action. Any amount of change within the action so long as it is solely this action. (Be Reasonable)
3. Adding a Trait

The reason for this is we often try and chuck the whole thing when we don't like the overall Job. The baby with the bath water and all. In reality, often only minor changes are needed, or sometimes even just one big one.

Thus the thread.

I'll start us off.
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Gunbreaker
Heart of Light: Heart of Light and Fated Circle have changed levels when they are learned.

I had very little to dislike about Gunbreaker, but going 12 levels without the aoe spender was definitely a brow raiser.
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Dark Knight
Delirium: Now a Trait. Upon executing Quietus, Bloodspiller, or Soul Eater, Blood Weapon's duration is increased by 3 seconds.

I had originally started a whole post about this alone, so here's the TLDR: Blood Weapon and Delirium individually aren't strong enough to be separate cooldowns. This change makes Blood Weapon stronger and adds a small amount of cohesiveness back to the Dark Knight's kit.
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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Dark Knight
Delirium: Now a Trait. Upon executing Quietus, Bloodspiller, or Soul Eater, Blood Weapon's duration is increased by 3 seconds.

I had originally started a whole post about this alone, so here's the TLDR: Blood Weapon and Delirium individually aren't strong enough to be separate cooldowns. This change makes Blood Weapon stronger and adds a small amount of cohesiveness back to the Dark Knight's kit.

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That won't actually help as Dark Knight needs the current Delirium as it's 10s Burst DpS phase. Making Blood Weapon last longer won't allow them handle any adds that the Tanks are expected to burst down solo.

The Paladin's (Requeiscat) Holy Spiritx4-> Confiteor, Warrior's (Inner Release)Fell Cleavex5, Gunbreaker's Burst Strike -> (Bloodfest)Continuation Combo ->Burst Strike and the Dark Knight's (Delirium) Bloodletterx5 are the tools that let all the takes handle certain types of challenges in content.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

That won't actually help as Dark Knight needs the current Delirium as it's 10s Burst DpS phase. Making Blood Weapon last longer won't allow them handle any adds that the Tanks are expected to burst down solo.

The Paladin's (Requeiscat) Holy Spiritx4-> Confiteor, Warrior's (Inner Release)Fell Cleavex5, Gunbreaker's Burst Strike -> (Bloodfest)Continuation Combo ->Burst Strike and the Dark Knight's (Delirium) Bloodletterx5 are the tools that let all the takes handle certain types of challenges in content.

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Can you list one creature that the tank is expected to solo in 10 seconds in current content?

Dark Knight
Power Slash : Combo off Syphon Strike, same potency as Soul Eater, gives 10 Blood Gauge and reduce all delays by 10% for 30s.

Warrior
Changing Nascent Chaos so that Infuriate does not give 50 Gauge anymore, but it also allows the next Inner Chaos or Chaotic Cyclone to be used without a gauge cost.

I'd change dark knight delrium to be like whm thin air, where nothing has a mana cost for 10 secs

Only one change.. hm.. i won't be reasonable and won't stick to only 1 action, sry for that and please don't take all that serious.

If i had only 1 change then i'll look like that:

Drk - revert to HW state. Mp management,dot to be paying attention to, higher apm thanks to more ogcd's and proccs.
War - revert to HW state. buff,debuff,dot to be paying attention to, higher apm thanks to more ogcd's(foggy memory, maybe he didn't have more ogcd's). some decision making in regards to stances and the way they operated.

I liked the somewhat higher complexity and the synergies back then a lot more then we have it today. Even the aggro management, to keep aggro when some dps got greedy and so on. Sure i like shirk and that its a qol for swaps and i sure do use it, but we did deal with swaps even without it and while you can argue that doing a aggro combo is no skill, one could also argue a lot of things lacking skill if i was to oversimplify.

Now more true to the topic:

War - Mythril Tempest - grants (instead of extend) 10 seconds of Storm's Eye buff, if used after Overpower, to a maximum of 30 seconds. Leave everything else as is. This change is more targeted towards dungeons,fates and general aoe situation. Its a QoL and, imo, won't affect game-play a lot.

Ignoring real issues with DRK and instead mention something that's always strangely peeved me about the kit..

Instead of the +Blackblood gain from Souleater and the +MP gain from Siphon Strike:

while DS is active all spells and weaponskills yield a small amount of MP/Blood (redistribute the siphon and souleater resource gains across all ws/spells).. Blood Weapon increases that amount. Thematically there wouldn't be much change in output but I imagine I'd feel better a flow if DRK just had steady resource gains.. Digging towards the next Siphon/SE always felt too war-y to me

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Can you list one creature that the tank is expected to solo in 10 seconds in current content?

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No, but that specific mechanic existed in both Alexander and Omega Savage. Eden Savage could easily include such mechanics.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

No, but that specific mechanic existed in both Alexander and Omega Savage. Eden Savage could easily include such mechanics.

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The tank did not have to solo anything in omega savage in 10 seconds. The only reason to do so was to cheese the Phantom Train, and doing so was a detriment to your own personal performance. Not to mention, it was only the Warrior of the tanks who could manage it without extreme RNG from the Paladin / Dark Knight.

Even so, you'd only have to stock up your MP reserves and Blood, and you can output more potency than the paladin will in their own window as well. Paladin is 3850 over 5 gcds. The Dark Knight can output 1650 just from Edge, with two bloodspillers and a combo that's 3980. Both of these ignore any additional OGCDs, but they shape up evenly enough there as well.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Even so, you'd only have to stock up your MP reserves and Blood, and you can output more potency than the paladin will in their own window as well. Paladin is 3850 over 5 gcds. The Dark Knight can output 1650 just from Edge, with two bloodspillers and a combo that's 3980. Both of these ignore any additional OGCDs, but they shape up evenly enough there as well.

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Paladin can actually hit 4740 + CoS ticks in its 5 gcd burst and can do this every minute.

550 (Requiescat) + 1.5*(350(Holy Spirit)*4+800(Confiteor))+ 370 (Spirits Within) + 120 (Circle of Scorn) + 200*2 (Intervene)

Dark Knight Currently alternates between a potential 5555 potency burst and a 4840 potency burst due to Carve and Spit and Abyssal Drain not lining up with Delirium.

1.1*(600*5 (Delirium Bloodspillers) + 450(Carve and Spit) + 200(Abyssal Drain) + 500*2 (Edge of Shadow) + 200*2 (Plunge))

1.1*(600*5 (Delirium Bloodspillers) + 500*2 (Edge of Shadow) + 200*2 (Plunge))

Your suggestion would drop the burst down to 4565 and 4235 unless they chose to potentially handicap their sustained dps.

In comparison the other two tanks 10s burst windows deal:

Gunbreaker: 5868 - 1.2*(500*2 (Burst Strike) + 800 (Blasting Zone) + 200 (Bow Strike) + 450 (Gnashing Fang) + 260 (Rip) + 550 (Savage Claw) + 280 (Tear) + 650 (Wicked Talon) + 300 (Gouge) + 200*2 (Rough Divide))
Warrior: ~6562 - ~1.5*1.25*(590*5 (Fell Cleave) + 450 (Upheaval) +100 (Onslaught))

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

Paladin can actually hit 4740 + CoS ticks in its 5 gcd burst and can do this every minute.

550 (Requiescat) + 1.5*(350(Holy Spirit)*4+800(Confiteor))+ 370 (Spirits Within) + 120 (Circle of Scorn) + 200*2 (Intervene)

Dark Knight Currently alternates between a potential 5555 potency burst and a 4840 potency burst due to Carve and Spit and Abyssal Drain not lining up with Delirium.

1.1*(600*5 (Delirium Bloodspillers) + 450(Carve and Spit) + 200(Abyssal Drain) + 500*2 (Edge of Shadow) + 200*2 (Plunge))

1.1*(600*5 (Delirium Bloodspillers) + 500*2 (Edge of Shadow) + 200*2 (Plunge))

Your suggestion would drop the burst down to 4565 and 4235 unless they chose to potentially handicap their sustained dps.

In comparison the other two tanks 10s burst windows deal:

Gunbreaker: 5868 - 1.2*(500*2 (Burst Strike) + 800 (Blasting Zone) + 200 (Bow Strike) + 450 (Gnashing Fang) + 260 (Rip) + 550 (Savage Claw) + 280 (Tear) + 650 (Wicked Talon) + 300 (Gouge) + 200*2 (Rough Divide))
Warrior: ~6562 - ~1.5*1.25*(590*5 (Fell Cleave) + 450 (Upheaval) +100 (Onslaught))

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That's great.

What happens when Delirium doesn't line up with the add they have to kill solo in 10 seconds?

All tank gap closers: Before level 50. Syncing hurts

Another DRK change.

Living Dead
Recast 420s.
Create a Ripper Essence enemy whose HP equals your current HP for 10s.
While the Ripper Essence is alive, most attacks will not lower your HP below 1. If the Ripper Essence is killed before timer runs out, the recast on Living Dead is reduced by half.


Or, if they really want to keep the risk of dying, keep the current recast, make it 15s duration, and you have to kill the Essence to not die.

I have carefully analysed the most common issues raised by each job, and have come up with the optimum answers to this thread. Let's give it a shot.

PLD:
Trait: Spelltron: Whenever you block an attack under the effect of Sheltron, you have a chance to make your next Clemency instant cast and cost no MP. Effect can only occur once per minute.

DRK:
Action: Living Dead: For the next 10 seconds, most attacks cannot reduce your HP below 1. If this effect is activated, it is converted to Endless Night.
Endless Night: For the next 10 seconds, you are impervious to most attacks and cannot be the target of healing spells or abilities. All your attacks heal you for an additional 100% of their value. Recast increased to 6 minutes.

GNB:
Trait: Beatbox: Gunblade weapon effects are now replaced with Soken beatboxing.

WAR:
Action: Support Desk - Leave a Suggestion: Allows you to file a complaint against how Onslaught isn't overpowered enough and how you can no longer automatically do the highest dps for the least effort. Pressing this button permanently uninstalls your game and sends you a gift voucher for a free copy of Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest for the SNES.

Dark Knight
Living Shadow
The model used for the summoned shadow is changed to a copy of the player character using this skill and the armor worn is changed to the level 60 Chaos set minus helmet. The flat black textures for body and gear remain.