A Garlemald inspired healer concept

Not going into detail /wiggles brows/ because someone made an excellent point in another thread I made asking about class concepts.


Garlemald Healer - Explosive Specialist
Garlemald has a people that can't really use magic, so instead they rely on their superior creations: magitek.


Type Physical ranged healer (can't use magic)

Weapon Magitek Bombs/explosives
Aesthetic Garlemald inspired armour, kind of "edgy"
Stats Probably similar to BRD/DNC/MCH as it'd be a physical range type

Notable Abilities
• Damage dealing explosives (equivalent to broil, malefic, etc.)
• DoT explosives (shrapnel, poison, and/or burn DoTs)
• Support explosives (smoke bombs, sleeping powder bombs, paralysis powder bombs or electric current bombs that invoke stun)
• Single heal bomb (throw that explosive at your team mate D: < GO AHEAD)
• AoE heal bomb I (Like Helios or Medica)
• AoE heal bomb or turret II (provides another aoe heal that either does regen or barrier or something)
• AoE barrier (gotta abuse that high magitek stuff, ya?! Yeah!)
• Either darts, "tonics," or explosives you can throw at people as an equivalent to esuna


There'd be more skills, clearly, but I'm keeping it basic. Edit: further explanation as to why I'm keeping this proposal basic.

What's the gimmick?

Like how Gunbreaker has ammo and the "trigger" effect on their combo, or Scholars have their fairy healing pet and aether stacks, or Astrologians have their sects and cards.

How does Garlemald healer break the healer mold? What's the unique selling point, the special game-play attraction.

I would argue that because the main character can use aether (which Garleans can't, hence why the can't really use magic) that they could shortcut a lot of what Garleans would have to do in order to fight with it.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

I would argue that because the main character can use aether (which Garleans can't, hence why the can't really use magic) that they could shortcut a lot of what Garleans would have to do in order to fight with it.

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tbf the main character being able to use aether could just be turned into a convenient gameplay excuse for why we don't have to drag tanks of Ceruleum or stacks of potions around.

Using aether to shortcut the logistic aspect but staying true to the actual combat techniques.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

I would argue that because the main character can use aether (which Garleans can't, hence why the can't really use magic) that they could shortcut a lot of what Garleans would have to do in order to fight with it.

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Yeah it doesn’t make sense esp considering the Garleans just draft people from conquered people/races into their armies that can use Aether. The only garlean class I can really see is another gunblade variant since it was stated that Garlean gunblades are different from Gunbreaker gunblades in that the Garlean gunblades can also function as ranged weapons.

Why does everyone's suggestion for a new healer involve either shooting or blowing up our party members with "heals"?

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Originally Posted by SerLuke

Yeah it doesn’t make sense esp considering the Garleans just draft people from conquered people/races into their armies that can use Aether.

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They draft conquered people because there just aren't enough Garleans to staff everything.

For the most part they don't really care about natural aether manipulation capabilities, they consider magitek to be superior, in a lot of ways it is.

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Originally Posted by Andevom

Why does everyone's suggestion for a new healer involve either shooting or blowing up our party members with "heals"?

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Because we get enough parties that we want to nuke from orbit that we want a job that give us the satisfaction of shooting/exploding said parties while simultaneously making sure we clear.


In seriousness, Its probably due to the sheer lack of non traditional Healer classes in MMOs in general. By traditional, I simply mean "Casts restorative magics to heal people".
Consider the reaction most people had to seeing Gunbreakers able to shoot a teammate in the face with a Healing shot.

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Originally Posted by Andevom

Why does everyone's suggestion for a new healer involve either shooting or blowing up our party members with "heals"?

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I think it's mostly because people want to get away from the spellcaster archetype as a healer.

For the Aether aspect, I mean MCH 30*, and it was definitely a garlean inpspired, I think some sort of Chemist sprinkled with some Garlean lore to bring it in, wouldnt be the worst thing. This is actually a recurring suggestion, as far back as HW/ARR. Then, though we had TP as a resource that non-casters primarilly used, and so we thought "Hey, wouldnt a TP based healer be awesome?!" But now? Perhaps...it augments MP into these abilities...IDK. I mean you could give it a lot of oGCD and have its main thing reducing their cd usage, youd still need on demand heals though, gated through some sort of light maximum/preventative. Otherwise youd have a healer that never ran out of resources I love the idea, I'm just curious if anyone could figure a way around this glaring issue, with the current system, that would make it fair for use

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Originally Posted by Andevom

Why does everyone's suggestion for a new healer involve either shooting or blowing up our party members with "heals"?

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Because we tire of frolicking about in white gowns and summoning unicorns and sparkles to grant succor to our comrades. Instead, we want you to feel our love most abrasively.~ You know, like how good friends banter back and forth with verbal punches. ♪ /halo

I didn't add a "gimmick" because the healers are mostly homogenized now. I also kept the concept to the basic bones because in another thread, people made valid points that SE wouldn't want to "steal" ideas, for liability purposes and what have you. So, I'm mostly just proposing a different approach to a healer class. They, if inspired by us small-fry, could reinvent said ideas with in their own vision. Add their own gimmicks, mechanics, explanations for XYZ so I won't be editing my first post to try and elaborate on points like these. The comments are very interesting to read, however!

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Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

Not going into detail /wiggles brows/ because someone made an excellent point in another thread I made asking about class concepts.


Garlemald Healer - Explosive Specialist
Garlemald has a people that can't really use magic, so instead they rely on their superior creations: magitek.


Type Physical ranged healer (can't use magic)

Weapon Magitek Bombs/explosives
Aesthetic Garlemald inspired armour, kind of "edgy"
Stats Probably similar to BRD/DNC/MCH as it'd be a physical range type

Notable Abilities
• Damage dealing explosives (equivalent to broil, malefic, etc.)
• DoT explosives (shrapnel, poison, and/or burn DoTs)
• Support explosives (smoke bombs, sleeping powder bombs, paralysis powder bombs or electric current bombs that invoke stun)
• Single heal bomb (throw that explosive at your team mate D: < GO AHEAD)
• AoE heal bomb I (Like Helios or Medica)
• AoE heal bomb or turret II (provides another aoe heal that either does regen or barrier or something)
• AoE barrier (gotta abuse that high magitek stuff, ya?! Yeah!)
• Either darts, "tonics," or explosives you can throw at people as an equivalent to esuna


There'd be more skills, clearly, but I'm keeping it basic. Edit: further explanation as to why I'm keeping this proposal basic.

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We call this Chemist.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

I would argue that because the main character can use aether (which Garleans can't, hence why the can't really use magic) that they could shortcut a lot of what Garleans would have to do in order to fight with it.

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I had an idea where Garlean player characters would use Magicite instead of Soul Crystals. Or merely go through magitech/echo infusion like Zenos and others have.

Honestly, if Garlemald had a battle healer, itd be a chemist - a class that concotes potions to restore or buff allies. Relying more on alchemy and chemistry than raw magic. If it had a gimick, itd be stored heals. You create a bunch of heals that can be deployed as oGCDs (perhaps), but youd have to spend time in teh fight casting (crafting) your heal reserves. So the rotation would be burst healing followed by periods or creating the healing magic potions in luls in combat. Perhaps blend it a bit with MCH and have deployable drones or turrets that provide aoe heals for a small duration of time. So it comes down to managing your reserves and keeping them up. Overspending your heals means you wont have them when you need them.

Can we have a Potion Gun that shoots potions at people to heal them? In the glass vials too. They have to explode glass everywhere.

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Originally Posted by Melichoir

Honestly, if Garlemald had a battle healer, itd be a chemist - a class that concotes potions to restore or buff allies.

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Only issue with chemist is that it's basically the (Al)chemist class right now, with the Alchemist class being able to make potions for healing, buffing, debuffing, etc. It's just not a battle class. It'd be a little weird/redundant to have two alchemic classes.

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Originally Posted by Andevom

Why does everyone's suggestion for a new healer involve either shooting or blowing up our party members with "heals"?

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I wouldn't say no to blowing up my party members....for their benefit of course.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

What's the gimmick?

Like how Gunbreaker has ammo and the "trigger" effect on their combo, or Scholars have their fairy healing pet and aether stacks, or Astrologians have their sects and cards.

How does Garlemald healer break the healer mold? What's the unique selling point, the special game-play attraction.

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You get two bars, with chargers or dots or whatever let's say blue and green.

2 blues 1 green makes a aoe attack 1 blue 1 green, single attack, 2 green 1 blue heals 2 greens aoe heals.

Wow seeing this thread is pretty funny because I was kind of thinking the same thing when I was in the shower this morning lol. Like others have suggested, I was thinking of a chemist that is the first healer to be dps-like. The main hand weapon would be a grenade or flask that that’s thrown and off-hand is some type of modified auracite. The auracite helps with the dispersion of healing magic to surrounding party members.

Party members would receive heals automatically based on the activation of weapon skills, but party members would have to be within a certain range. Targeting a friendly and activating an ability called “focus” will cancel automatic area heals, and focus the healing on the target party member with increased potency.

The main thing with this healer would be a primer and detonation system similar to the mass effect games. Some examples are like this:

X ability (primer): Throw your flask or grenade at enemy for x potency and inflicting target with “corrupted aether” this ability can stack up to three times.

Y ability (detonate): Once activated, the corrupted aether detonated dealing x potency and the potency is increased for each stack.

Then I thought of some ogcd abilities:

“Additive”: Allows the effects of a primer to automatically obtain maximum stacks.

“Synergize”: Combine two or more primers for greater potency once detonated.

"Catalyst": Reduces the cooldown of weapon skills for x seconds.

The job quests would focus on a Garlemald chemist who defected from the empire after witnessing the effects Black Rose.

I'd probably never play this, but hope your idea comes to fruition.

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Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

Only issue with chemist is that it's basically the (Al)chemist class right now, with the Alchemist class being able to make potions for healing, buffing, debuffing, etc. It's just not a battle class. It'd be a little weird/redundant to have two alchemic classes.

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It isn't really that big a deal, most people who want Chemist aren't going to think its weird that we already have Alchemist as a DoH. Plus (Al)Chemist has worked well for battle in other games its been a part of, in fact for X-2 it was my go to for healing.

Personally my only problem with this concept is the "edgy" armor part, I get that people want something different from the current healer standard but that just seems to be trying to hard at being different. But nothing wrong with wanting something new design wise.

...I also have had my own thoughts on Chemist, namely that its heals would actually use the Duty Action now that we have two instead of one. When you load in with Chemist healer everyone starts with 1 standard potion, the Chemist can make more of varying types to "throw out" at targeted people or the whole group with certain skills being an immediate but less potent effect. The big problem with this being that it requires the other players to use the action to heal themselves and not, say, blame the Chemist for not healing them when they were in fact playing as (I) intended. I, uh, just wanted to throw this out there.

so basically chemist lol

i mean, garlemald cant use magic so its obvious their way of healing is using tool, basically like us people in real world.

i just assume something like a backpack full with stuff like potion to throw, syringe, a turret like contraption that work as AOE regen, a staff with portable mana pack attached to it to heal, maybe even something like AED done in garlemald design lol