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    MOZZYSTAR's Avatar
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 8

    A Garlemald inspired healer concept

    Not going into detail /wiggles brows/ because someone made an excellent point in another thread I made asking about class concepts.


    Garlemald Healer - Explosive Specialist
    Garlemald has a people that can't really use magic, so instead they rely on their superior creations: magitek.


    Type Physical ranged healer (can't use magic)

    Weapon Magitek Bombs/explosives
    Aesthetic Garlemald inspired armour, kind of "edgy"
    Stats Probably similar to BRD/DNC/MCH as it'd be a physical range type

    Notable Abilities
    • Damage dealing explosives (equivalent to broil, malefic, etc.)
    • DoT explosives (shrapnel, poison, and/or burn DoTs)
    • Support explosives (smoke bombs, sleeping powder bombs, paralysis powder bombs or electric current bombs that invoke stun)
    • Single heal bomb (throw that explosive at your team mate D: < GO AHEAD)
    • AoE heal bomb I (Like Helios or Medica)
    • AoE heal bomb or turret II (provides another aoe heal that either does regen or barrier or something)
    • AoE barrier (gotta abuse that high magitek stuff, ya?! Yeah!)
    • Either darts, "tonics," or explosives you can throw at people as an equivalent to esuna


    There'd be more skills, clearly, but I'm keeping it basic. Edit: further explanation as to why I'm keeping this proposal basic.
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    What's the gimmick?

    Like how Gunbreaker has ammo and the "trigger" effect on their combo, or Scholars have their fairy healing pet and aether stacks, or Astrologians have their sects and cards.

    How does Garlemald healer break the healer mold? What's the unique selling point, the special game-play attraction.
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Paladin Lv 60
    I would argue that because the main character can use aether (which Garleans can't, hence why the can't really use magic) that they could shortcut a lot of what Garleans would have to do in order to fight with it.
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    I would argue that because the main character can use aether (which Garleans can't, hence why the can't really use magic) that they could shortcut a lot of what Garleans would have to do in order to fight with it.
    tbf the main character being able to use aether could just be turned into a convenient gameplay excuse for why we don't have to drag tanks of Ceruleum or stacks of potions around.

    Using aether to shortcut the logistic aspect but staying true to the actual combat techniques.
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    Luke Lightbringer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    I would argue that because the main character can use aether (which Garleans can't, hence why the can't really use magic) that they could shortcut a lot of what Garleans would have to do in order to fight with it.
    Yeah it doesn’t make sense esp considering the Garleans just draft people from conquered people/races into their armies that can use Aether. The only garlean class I can really see is another gunblade variant since it was stated that Garlean gunblades are different from Gunbreaker gunblades in that the Garlean gunblades can also function as ranged weapons.
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    Andevom Vonskivaux
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    Why does everyone's suggestion for a new healer involve either shooting or blowing up our party members with "heals"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    Yeah it doesn’t make sense esp considering the Garleans just draft people from conquered people/races into their armies that can use Aether.
    They draft conquered people because there just aren't enough Garleans to staff everything.

    For the most part they don't really care about natural aether manipulation capabilities, they consider magitek to be superior, in a lot of ways it is.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    Why does everyone's suggestion for a new healer involve either shooting or blowing up our party members with "heals"?
    Because we get enough parties that we want to nuke from orbit that we want a job that give us the satisfaction of shooting/exploding said parties while simultaneously making sure we clear.


    In seriousness, Its probably due to the sheer lack of non traditional Healer classes in MMOs in general. By traditional, I simply mean "Casts restorative magics to heal people".
    Consider the reaction most people had to seeing Gunbreakers able to shoot a teammate in the face with a Healing shot.
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    Nonni Brilante
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andevom View Post
    Why does everyone's suggestion for a new healer involve either shooting or blowing up our party members with "heals"?
    I think it's mostly because people want to get away from the spellcaster archetype as a healer.
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    For the Aether aspect, I mean MCH 30*, and it was definitely a garlean inpspired, I think some sort of Chemist sprinkled with some Garlean lore to bring it in, wouldnt be the worst thing. This is actually a recurring suggestion, as far back as HW/ARR. Then, though we had TP as a resource that non-casters primarilly used, and so we thought "Hey, wouldnt a TP based healer be awesome?!" But now? Perhaps...it augments MP into these abilities...IDK. I mean you could give it a lot of oGCD and have its main thing reducing their cd usage, youd still need on demand heals though, gated through some sort of light maximum/preventative. Otherwise youd have a healer that never ran out of resources I love the idea, I'm just curious if anyone could figure a way around this glaring issue, with the current system, that would make it fair for use
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