Hrothgar aesthetic concern.

So, I've race changed to the Hrothgar. I'm actually quite fond of it already. However I do have a concern.

If new face/hair styles are added are we going to have to pay our hard earned real life coin, to even access them? Because at the moment, using the crystal bell the only option a Hroth has, is to change fur pattern and colour. I understand due to time constraints adding new options hasn't been viable. But every other race has the option to change their style with in game currency.

Will this option be added to Hrothgar's aesthetic options in the future with new styles released? Because as it stands that's very unfair on the minority that have chosen to play as a Hroth.

I was thinking the same thing, also will it be new hairstyles for existing faces or just brand new faces in general? I really like the face my hrothgar has atm.

It's more worrying they chose to tie them to faces to begin with, as you have to fantasia to change your face.

I'm hoping they rectify this in a future patch. But an official confirmation would be nice.

I get that they were going for something completely different in terms of hair because they are a more beastly race, but why couldn't they have done what they have with the Viera? They have their own race-exclusive hairstyles but it's not like they're locked to face (I know they stated that they would work on giving Viera the legacy styles but that's besides the point). It would be nice if we could mix and match hair and face.
It isn't fair that you have to use a fantasia if you want to change your Hrothgar's hair, especially when options are so limited already.

It's pitiful that SE decided to lock the hairstyles and not the fur patterns to faces, ESPECIALLY since there's only 5 patterns to begin with, and I somehow doubt they'll make more. What's the point of having a bestial race with "customization" if you lock the #1 customizable feature? At least half of these fur patterns aren't going to ever be seen outside of nakedness at character creation. Yet the feature with the widest range of style (hairs) is locked to a grand total of 8, with two tied to each of 4 faces. SE NEEDS to have something either said before 5.1 or done in 5.1 regarding this extremely limited option.

I took a look at character creation. Hrothgar definitely need more facial/hair options. I am just hoping once 5.1 comes out that is what is coming.

Is it perhaps to do with how the game handles the data for setting the colours of the fur pattern? That information would be used in combination with what is usually the hairstyle data, here used for fur patterns, so perhaps it needs to be there to control the two colours.

It does seem odd that they haven't added more patterns, having gone this route.

Even with the limitations I have yet to see two Hrothgar that look the same. People are doing great jobs with customizing them

I was hoping that the Aesthetician would allow Hrothgar to customize other features such as fang length or something.

Also, after checking, it looks like Hrothgar can change 8 things in the aesthetician, while the other races can change 9 things.

As cool as the hrothgar are, it just reminds me of teh Au Ra debacle.... Face x horns....i love certain horns but hate certain faces and wish I coudl pick x horns with x faces... But yeah that never changed so now 2 awesome races I'd love to try are jsut out the window

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Originally Posted by DynnDiablos

Even with the limitations I have yet to see two Hrothgar that look the same. People are doing great jobs with customizing them

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Yeah, from a design PoV a race that encourages creative use of colors and patterns has a great range of looks to pull from seeing as color and patterns and outlines are what stand out the most.

But yeah, even if all you give me is the option for the OTHER hairstyles for my face I want that choice SE. Don't make me pay to just change the hair -_-

I would like to think future hairstyles will be wearable by all faces in the future. That this limitation was brought about by the "rush" to have the race ready for launch. To ask Hrothgar players to spend real life money every time a patch brings new hairstyles would be absurd. That is what I hope, at least.

It seems that the hairstyles are literally stuck to the faces, on a coding level, so there won't be any "choosing between hairstyle options for your face" unless they implement a way to change your face without a Fantasia.
So Face A with hairstyle A, and Face A with hairstyle B, are in fact just Face A and Face B, with the same model for the face.
Their 'customisable' bits have been allocated to fur patterns.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

It seems that the hairstyles are literally stuck to the faces, on a coding level, so there won't be any "choosing between hairstyle options for your face" unless they implement a way to change your face without a Fantasia.
So Face A with hairstyle A, and Face A with hairstyle B, are in fact just Face A and Face B, with the same model for the face.
Their 'customisable' bits have been allocated to fur patterns.

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That's fine customising the fur. The problem is future hair styles. As currently there is no hair option when using the crystal bell.

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Originally Posted by Lollerblades

That's fine customising the fur. The problem is future hair styles. As currently there is no hair option when using the crystal bell.

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Based on what I've presumed there, there won't be any more hairstyles. No more than there will be any more horns for Au Ra, or ears for Viera.
Fur patterns take up that slot.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Based on what I've presumed there, there won't be any more hairstyles. No more than there will be any more horns for Au Ra, or ears for Viera.
Fur patterns take up that slot.

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Actually...

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Yoshida: We developed Hrothgar to be a “human beast”, so face patterns and hair styles are linked. I told the staff “You don’t need to implement common hair styles” and thats why we have our current design of the Hrothgar. We will be introducing more hair styles for Hrothgar, but those will be to strengthen the image or the roll playing of a “beast” so those will be only for Hrothgar. Please look at it as a race that is different from the existing ones from the base concept.

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It'd be a bummer if they introduced these without a way to freely swap though, they really do need to let us swap faces for free.

For me my fur patterns don't even show on my char, the only time I'm barechested is when i go dancer due to the mog, so i feel its bit of a let down i mean how many fur patterns could you make that are just either dots or lines.
(I'm sure they have things line up so will see what cat comes out the bag)

My small quip is that I would love to have a straight back option, I look a lot more imposing as the WoL/WoD when I tower over my enemies then be hunched over in front of them the live actioned beast (beauty & beast) has a better posture then i do at mo.