Devs, Is the New Mac Client Launching Today (6/6/19)?

Good Morning, Devs!

Is the Mac 64-bit updated client still planned for release today? If this needs to be moved to a different part of the forum, all good. Here’s the text excerpt from the Mac download information:

“Square Enix plans to support a new, 64-bit version of the FINAL FANTASY XIV application with the start of early access for FINAL FANTASY XIV: Shadowbringers. Square Enix is scheduled to switch to the 64-bit version of FINAL FANTASY XIV for Mac on June 6, 2019. In order to facilitate a smooth transition, we hope to provide an early release of the 64-bit application in late-May 2019.”

Forum note: I’m aware that the performance of the Mac client is nothing compared to Windows. I’m just writing this excerpt to avoid replies such as “use bootcamp”, “use ps4”, or “$1000 monitor stand” replies.

Yes, I'd also like to know where this mysterious 64 bit Mac Client is. You said there would hopefully be an early release in May, well, May has come and gone, and here we are, June 6, 2019, the day you all said it would be here, and not a squeak, or inkling at all that it is going to arrive today. Is it actually going to arrive today, or are we waiting longer?

I have a full Windows rig with RTX2080ti cards in it for when I play at home, but I use my Mac for business, and do like to play this game on it when I can, so this junk Mac Client you all have "supported" has been a major disappointment to me, and I've been patiently waiting for the 64bit version, praying it will actually be functional.

Mac- lowest possible settings, maybe 29 fps (with eGPU with Vega 64 card in it)
Windows - maxed-out settings, 100+ fps

Seems you could make them a tad more equal.

I spoke with FFXIV Tech Support. They weren't told about the June 6, 2019, 64 bit Mac App release, and were surprised to see the company had put a hard release date in writing on the internet about it. The support team, despite diligent efforts, had no information on its release. I was told there was most likely a delay, but since June 6th had technically not completed yet, to keep checking Loadstone, but it may be delayed until an as yet to be seen date. Also, there was no info if it would be a native client, or another wrapper disaster.


PS- if the tech support person I spoke with today reads this, "thanks for the best tech support conversation I've had in ages! You were a blast to chat with."

I'm glad you heard back from them. I'm hoping they'll update us soon.

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Originally Posted by Giginen

Yes, I'd also like to know where this mysterious 64 bit Mac Client is. You said there would hopefully be an early release in May, well, May has come and gone, and here we are, June 6, 2019, the day you all said it would be here, and not a squeak, or inkling at all that it is going to arrive today. Is it actually going to arrive today, or are we waiting longer?

I have a full Windows rig with RTX2080ti cards in it for when I play at home, but I use my Mac for business, and do like to play this game on it when I can, so this junk Mac Client you all have "supported" has been a major disappointment to me, and I've been patiently waiting for the 64bit version, praying it will actually be functional.

Mac- lowest possible settings, maybe 29 fps (with eGPU with Vega 64 card in it)
Windows - maxed-out settings, 100+ fps

Seems you could make them a tad more equal.

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Why are you playing games at work. :P

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Originally Posted by Nedkel

Why are you playing games at work. :P

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I own my own business, so I set my own schedule, and if that schedule has downtime, why not log into FFXIV

;-p

Bump for visibility. 6/7/19 It's still a notification on the lodestone:

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...e37cef3d31d8fd

I would strongly advise not to use a mac client for any game. Be it FF14, GW2, whatever... The FPS is nowhere as good as on bootcamp with custom GPU signed drivers. You can get windows 10 with an indefinite trial if you can tolerate "Activate windows" which may or may not appear at the bottom right of the screen or pay $20 for a license.

My 2017 imac that gets 60fps on bootcamp with 2k resolution set. PS: Again, make sure you are using custom signed drivers! bootcampdrivers.com is where everyone who has a mac goes to get the updated drivers (windows only). Otherwise, you'll get maybe 10-15fps using the stock bootcamp GPU drivers even when they are "updated".

Since the 64-bit application is still in active development, Square Enix cannot guarantee specific release dates or minimum system requirements at this time. We will provide more detailed and finalized information about downloading, installation, and exporting configuration settings for the new 64-bit application at a later date.

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Originally Posted by Greydor

Bump for visibility. 6/7/19 It's still a notification on the lodestone:

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...e37cef3d31d8fd

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I’m surprised that we didn’t receive an update from Square Enix yesterday or today. If we don’t hear more about the new macOS client at E3 next week, I’m confident that YoshiP will speak about it during the next Letter from the Producer LIVE (currently scheduled for 06/14).

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Originally Posted by Eriane_Elis

I would strongly advise not to use a mac client for any game. Be it FF14, GW2, whatever... The FPS is nowhere as good as on bootcamp with custom GPU signed drivers. You can get windows 10 with an indefinite trial if you can tolerate "Activate windows" which may or may not appear at the bottom right of the screen or pay $20 for a license.

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...or not. If nobody uses the mac client, they will have no reason to develop it. And frankly bootcamp is annoying.

I use only the Mac client (now) - the Windows laptop is gone and Bootcamp is just too much of a pain when everything else I use is in MacOS. An update on the release of the 64 bit client would be useful even only to say "oops we bad it is delayed a little".

Would love an update as well! Very thankful for the Mac client and look forward to using it as long as it's supported! (Wine/DXVK works great at home on Linux, but for travel/work I have a macbook pro)

Considering that they have the release date as June 6th on the SE Store (US version) for the 64 bit client (then following by a "still in development" notice) the lack of an update is somewhat disappointing. The only thing we can to is try and keep this in focus as people paid their money for the Shadowbringers expansion expecting a 64 bit client. Actually we need that 64 bit client now that Apple has given the final warning on 32 bit apps with MacOS 10.15

Yeah, I’m also looking for the 64bit update. I prefer playing on my MBP to playing on my PS4. I can’t buy the pre-release because if this!!

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Originally Posted by Giginen

I own my own business, so I set my own schedule, and if that schedule has downtime, why not log into FFXIV

;-p

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If you own your own business... why dont you build a PC? Or a laptop you can take to work. Playing this on a mac cant be enjoyable can it? :3

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

If you own your own business... why dont you build a PC? Or a laptop you can take to work. Playing this on a mac cant be enjoyable can it? :3

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are you kidding?

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

If you own your own business... why dont you build a PC? Or a laptop you can take to work. Playing this on a mac cant be enjoyable can it? :3

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It's plenty enjoyable, thank you!

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Originally Posted by savageink

are you kidding?

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No? I've never heard of anything good coming out of gaming on a mac like literally ever.

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

No? I've never heard of anything good coming out of gaming on a mac like literally ever.

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Why is it PC doofuses always have to doubledown their ignorance on Mac threads when the threads themselves tell them to stay out of it because nobody cares what they think?

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Originally Posted by savageink

Why is it PC doofuses always have to doubledown their ignorance on Mac threads when the threads themselves tell them to stay out of it because nobody cares what they think?

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Oh okay, since we're going that route. Why is it mac doofuses think they're gonna get quality gameplay on a mac-n-cheese?

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

Oh okay, since we're going that route. Why is it mac doofuses think they're gonna get quality gameplay on a mac-n-cheese?

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Nice. You already went that route in your first post. So I'm not feeling particularly chastised.

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Originally Posted by savageink

Nice. You already went that route in your first post. So I'm not feeling particularly chastised.

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Except I didn't resort to petty name calling in my first post. Dont dish what you cant take.

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

Except I didn't resort to petty name calling in my first post. Dont dish what you cant take.

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Derision is so much more socially acceptable. "doofuses" was mild. I even edited it for the sensitive people out there.

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Originally Posted by Sanctify

Oh okay, since we're going that route. Why is it mac doofuses think they're gonna get quality gameplay on a mac-n-cheese?

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Hi Sanctify. I feel you were just poking as Mac users in fun; so, I'll answer your question.;)

As Mac users do get quality game play. We just rely on game developers to include us in their planned target audience. If we aren't included in their market, Mac users can use Windows with the help of Boot Camp.

However, many individuals do not care for this anymore than a Windows user forced to download OSX to play a game. Isn't that the point of this thread? To be included in Square Enix's game market?

Meanwhile, Apple is working to improve Mac user's game performance by sunsetting 32 bits and phrasing to 64 bits. I'm excited to see how this impacts my gameplay.

Finally, many Mac user's take a casual attitude toward computers. We just want to turn on our machine and go. As for me, I'm an artist at heart, and fiddling with computer programs is beyond this old hippy. :D

News

Thank you @linay!

EDIT:
So the 64-bit client comes out the day the early access starts.... cutting it close, but hopefully since macs are a bit more homogeneous there wont be many unexpected bugs?^^;

Oh well I guess on release day we are all going to be looking at the download progress bar and screaming :)

Sounds like between the 27th and the 2nd we'll have access to both the 32-bit and 64-bit, so I guess I'll be playing on 32 while the 64 bit downloads lol

Guess we will all just need to hope the download does not take all of the early access time :)

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oD3YG...YGNa/giphy.gif

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Originally Posted by Bearded

Oh well I guess on release day we are all going to be looking at the download progress bar and screaming :)

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Ha! You speak the truth while being funny at the same time.

I like you. Add me to your friend's list. :)

Welp... I was wrong:

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Migration from the 32-bit Mac® version to 64-bit

Support for the 32-bit Mac® version will end with the start of early access for Shadowbringers. Read the regarding details regarding the 64-bit version.

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so yeah... banging head on keyboard while the new client downloads will be the start of early access for us ;_;

starts refreshing lodestone feverishly

Download Site

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Originally Posted by linay

Download Site

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thanks! .....

A fast download of the client - probably because nobody else is hammering the download servers as this does not contain the Shadowbringers expansion content yet. Will have to download that when it gets released!

Hyperlinks in the game launcher work correctly - no more causing the launcher to hang.
Now it's just a matter of waiting like everyone else for the patch to drop.

[update]

The game settings are no longer hidden in your Library but instead in a new "My Games" folder that is created in your documents folder so that means its easier to locate and backup.

I get it downloaded and installed and get to the normal login point (right before it would do updates), but when I try to login I get this message:

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FFXIV Launcher Error
[30435][30415][32][19900][32]
C:/users/crossover/My Documents/My Games/FINAL
FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn/downloads/
ffxivupdater.exe

[OK]

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Anyone else hitting this? I thought it was just failing do to the servers being updated for the EXP, but it sounds like others are getting past that? @Bearded? Maybe I misinterpreted the last post...

UPDATE:
I killed it and started it back up. logged in and it worked fine!

Do we have to delete the old Mac Client or does the new one overwrite. Just don't want to have 2 versions of the game taking up storage space

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Originally Posted by Apolline

Do we have to delete the old Mac Client or does the new one overwrite. Just don't want to have 2 versions of the game taking up storage space

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delete old one, the new one starts from scratch

Requiring only the latest macos release, Mojave, is really bad. They should at least support High Sierra, which isn't that old. If the new client is still just a WINE port, there's no good reason for this, and even if it's a proper native app now, there's no good reason for it.

I just started playing FFXIV this month, and it already looks like I'll have to stop playing it.