Can we please have increased tomestone rewards for the Moogle Treasure Trove event.

Instead of the current 1, 2, and 3 denominations for tomestone rewards, can it be increased to 5, 10, 15 denominations, many thanks. ;)

You aren't supposed to get everything.

At the very least allow us to trade Poetics for the Tomestones as another option, maybe 1000 for each or 500. The amount that players clock up from spamming Alliance Raids (and MSQ) means most of it is going to waste.

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Originally Posted by Kurando

At the very least allow us to trade Poetics for the Tomestones as another option, maybe 1000 for each or 500. The amount that players clock up from spamming Alliance Raids (and MSQ) means most of it is going to waste.

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Only a waste if you don't spend them. If you plan on doing any anima quests, good time to bank some of the items to hang on to (unidentifiables, the 4 pieces step after, etc), or if last resport, materia or demicrystals.

But I do agree in wishing they paid out more - some of these items are pricey and going to take some rushed effort to get in time.

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Originally Posted by ERMITANYO

Instead of the current 1, 2, and 3 denominations for tomestone rewards, can it be increased to 5, 10, 15 denominations, many thanks. ;)

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That's too much. Now, doubling the amounts so you get 2 for a dungeon, 4 for a raid, and 6 for MSQ, however...

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You aren't supposed to get everything.

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No you are not however I do think some kind of increase is needed.

Personally I would make the tomes available for every roulette. with the very few specific duties you have to grind 50+ times I have no interest in making an effort.

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You aren't supposed to get everything.

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The topic made no mention of wanting to get everything. You can stop with the quippy non-answers now.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

The topic made no mention of wanting to get everything. You can stop with the quippy non-answers now.

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The extreme increase in number of tomes given that is requested says otherwise. And yes, it is an answer, you aren't supposed to get everything. You are supposed to pick what's most important to you, and it's a reward for doing older content.

Your response however, was off topic and pointless. Not entirely sure what your problem with me is either.

IMO MSQ roulette thingers should give more than 3. They take forever.

Why? This can barely be classified as a grind.

If you want something, work for it a little. Almost everything is handed to players on a silver plate already.

A small amount of grinding won't kill you. This is just filler content until SHB anyway.

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The extreme increase in number of tomes given that is requested says otherwise.

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It actually doesn't. There is not one word in the OP about wanting more drops simply because "they wanted to buy all the items"

Try responding to what's being written rather than what you think they're saying. The latter has a tendency of being incorrect.

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Your response however, was off topic and pointless. Not entirely sure what your problem with me is either.

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My problem is that you're trying to write off the OP using a strawman (claiming they said something they never said and speaking out against the made-up statement, rather than what was actually stated). So really, it's no more "off topic" than you were being.

oh yeah lets get some popcorn...

2, 4, 6 seems like a reasonable denomination.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

That's too much. Now, doubling the amounts so you get 2 for a dungeon, 4 for a raid, and 6 for MSQ, however...

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No one wants to run say, Tam Tara 100 times. And yet a lot of people are, and several people have the earrings already. At this point if they up the drops we're going to have the opposite problem, angry day 1-ers who took time off/had time off to grind some of this out already.

It's supposed to be a bit grindy. It's lasting until the expansion, take your time.

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven

Why? This can barely be classified as a grind.

If you want something, work for it a little. Almost everything is handed to players on a silver plate already.

A small amount of grinding won't kill you. This is just filler content until SHB anyway.

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Exactly. I made over 50 tomestones (enough to buy any mount) in one day's worth of on and off crystal tower queues. You could get the earrings with light "grind" in probably 4-5 days time, no less than a week for sure.

I'm just too busy as of right now to even want to bother. YoshiP himself said no game should become a chore and all I see with this is a chore disguised as an event.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

IMO MSQ roulette thingers should give more than 3. They take forever.

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Don't do roulettes, just spam the short one twice a day or so to get the earrings in a good paced time and not feeling burnt out :)

Community: THE GAME IS TOO EASY, IT SHOULD BE HARDER, MINIMUM ILVL REQUIREMENTS, MORE DPS CHECKS!

Also community: Can we pls have more rewards so we need to put in less effort to get things?

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

The topic made no mention of wanting to get everything. You can stop with the quippy non-answers now.

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While topic made no mention to wanting everything given the point of the topic being about an increase of rewards it is a fair inference to make that the OP would either like an easier time getting the rewards they want, want an easier time to obtain everything, or both. Rarely do people make suggestions without some personal motivation fueling it. Person have a short and sweet answer as to why an increase most likely will not happen.

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven

Community: THE GAME IS TOO EASY, IT SHOULD BE HARDER, MINIMUM ILVL REQUIREMENTS, MORE DPS CHECKS!

Also community: Can we pls have more rewards so we need to put in less effort to get things?

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The community always asks for things to be harder. For example, they ask for the relics to be harder. What they don't ask for is for things to be grindier. Which is what this event is. This event is not hard. It's just a grindfest.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet

The community always asks for things to be harder. For example, they ask for the relics to be harder. What they don't ask for is for things to be grindier. Which is what this event is. This event is not hard. It's just a grindfest.

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The community always asks for things to be harder.

The majority of the community also can't fight their way out of a wet towel.

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven

The community always asks for things to be harder.

The majority of the community also can't fight their way out of a wet towel.

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That doesn't change the point that was made.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet

That doesn't change the point that was made.

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As I said, almost everything is already given to you on a silver plate.

Having to work a little for something won't kill you or anyone else.

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven

As I said, almost everything is already given to you on a silver plate.

Having to work a little for something won't kill you or anyone else.

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It's not really work though. It's grinding for the sake of grinding which is meant to keep people busy (aka keep people subbed) until Shadowbringers. They weren't exactly subtle in the design of this event. Imo, the time required doesn't really justify the rewards being given. That's why I'm not actively participating, though I have gotten 4 tomes just by doing my daily roulettes.

I'd like the riding maps to cost 15 tomestones instead of 30, that's all.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

That's too much. Now, doubling the amounts so you get 2 for a dungeon, 4 for a raid, and 6 for MSQ, however...

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I agree with this, this seems like a much better solution.

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Originally Posted by Vahlnir

It's not really work though. It's grinding for the sake of grinding which is meant to keep people busy (aka keep people subbed) until Shadowbringers. They weren't exactly subtle in the design of this event. Imo, the time required doesn't really justify the rewards being given. That's why I'm not actively participating, though I have gotten 4 tomes just by doing my daily roulettes.

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You don't have to participate. No one is asking you to.

It's there for the sake of giving people something to do while SHB.

Don't want to do it? Don't do it.

I swear people in this community complain over every single thing possible.

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven

You don't have to participate. No one is asking you to.

It's there for the sake of giving people something to do while SHB.

Don't want to do it? Don't do it.

I swear people in this community complain over every single thing possible.

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I...just said I'm not really doing it.

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I'm only doing it to get items I can't get easily or at all (like the Pegasus mount), so although I'd like it to be a bit quicker I don't really mind as much. It's basically the same stuff I've been doing anyway while catching up on leveling some jobs. Just focus on the ones you don't really have access to and worry about getting the rest of them the normal way. I'm sure most players already have a good chunk of that stuff just from playing over the years.

I think it's fair the way it is. You can get all of the rewards (barring the earrings) faster if you earn them normally. If you don't want to put the effort in to do that content, this is an alternative that takes more time but requires less effort. The same kind of concept behind raid gear and tome gear/relics. The price of the earrings is higher than everything else, but you aren't meant to earn them in a day. There is plenty of time to earn them before Shadowbringers.

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven

As I said, almost everything is already given to you on a silver plate.

Having to work a little for something won't kill you or anyone else.

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I don't see your point. Like I said, community asks for harder, not grindier. Asking for something to be harder is not asking to be given something on a silver plate.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Heartnet

I don't see your point. Like I said, community asks for harder, not grindier. Asking for something to be harder is not asking to be given something on a silver plate.

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Depending how you look at it (and which items) this is easier to do. A lot of the stuff is obtainable year round but you have to grind for it in a different way. This is just a more expedient/alternative way.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

You aren't supposed to get everything.

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It's actually completely possible to if you did though. You have literally a month to farm the tomes needed. People act like it has to be done in 1 week.

I had 66 of the token for the pegasus mount, we spent one lockout in the Diadem and i had enough token to buy the mount. That was by far faster then the "Event".

Not sure if it's been said yet or not, but this event is peanuts beside what it's been truly designed for.

For the devs the items are a means to distract and tempt people back into DF to get que times down for the newer players who are now trekking through dungeon content. It's designed this way to keep people going back in, not to quickly hand them what they want. =P

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Originally Posted by seraf

It's actually completely possible to if you did though. You have literally a month to farm the tomes needed. People act like it has to be done in 1 week.

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This. Agreed.

You have time, even if you just farm something a few times a day, even for the Namazu earrings. It's a bit tedious and boring, but it doable.

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Originally Posted by Alestorm

I'm just too busy as of right now to even want to bother. YoshiP himself said no game should become a chore and all I see with this is a chore disguised as an event.

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You can do 2 crystal tower raids per day and have 102 moogle tomes in 17 days; which is enough for the earring.
Yoship never said he didn't want the game to feel like a chore, he said he never wanted the game to feel like a job; which is what 99% of mmos feel like as far as progressing your character goes. Chore is a subjective word, JOB however is something else. You can run 2 crystal tower raids in 1 hour.

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Originally Posted by Kyuuen

Not sure if it's been said yet or not, but this event is peanuts beside what it's been truly designed for.

For the devs the items are a means to distract and tempt people back into DF to get que times down for the newer players who are now trekking through dungeon content. It's designed this way to keep people going back in, not to quickly hand them what they want. =P

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But it's not engaging anyone. People are 4 man BLUing Tam Tara. That doesn't help anyone.

People aren't doing the MSQ roulettes because they take forever still. The time vs reward isn't worth it.

I still think if they REALLY wanted to help new players, they should have put them on the leveling roulette and mentor roulette as in need bonuses. That would have 100% helped people who really needed it.

Least make it so can get them from undersized party. Since datacenter spilt queue times is outrageous now. It take month just to get one mount from it with them queue times so slow now.

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Originally Posted by ERMITANYO

Instead of the current 1, 2, and 3 denominations for tomestone rewards, can it be increased to 5, 10, 15 denominations, many thanks. ;)

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The Moogle Treasure Event is a way of asking us to take care of newbies. In combo with the new player campaign for ShB.
But it takes so much farm that I will prefer the hunt and the daily hunting.

7.5 hours of MSQ or 15 Raids Alliance ARR, for 1 riding map, no thanks.
I already eat enough easy content with new players where it wype while it is now easy mode... Chain wype on the first boss of World of Darkness... LOL

If the reward change to 5/10/15, maybe... I'll find that useful.