Even if I have to re-purchase Everything...

So I was noob when I bought FFXIV in the beginning and bought through Steam. I've bought each expansion through them begrudgingly after realize what a PITA it is to do so. I also pre-bought the Shadowbringers expansion through them because what else could I do? LOL!

However, I want to punt Steam from my system and never look back. Is there an option to buy every expansion, including Shadowbringers again (if I have to), because Steam is a POS app. #mistakesweremade

My add on to that is would I have to start over from scratch in the game or can I log into my own characters? *Praying there is some way to transfer all of my stuff over*.

#steamiscancer

You can buy everything again to not use steam. As long as you attach the new purchases to the same account on the mog station, you will keep everything you had in game.

Edit: I think I read that it won't let you do that. My mistake. Lets see what others say to confirm or deny this.

Unfortunately, Steam licenses and PC licences for FFXIV, though treated differently in practice in most cases, are listed as the same thing on Mogstation, so you cannot have a PC-specific license and a steam specific license on the same service account. If you really want to have all your characters and stuff, you will need to go over to a PS4 license (or Mac if that floats your boat), since you can own that alongisde the computer licneses. Otherwise, you will need to create a new Service account, buy PC-specific licenses for the game and expansions, use their keys in this new service account and effectively start over.

Yes it sucks, but it is what it is, and we have no idea if they will ever change the license issue to be more friendly to consumers.

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Originally Posted by Adeacia

You can buy everything again to not use steam. As long as you attach the new purchases to the same account on the mog station, you will keep everything you had in game.

Edit: I think I read that it won't let you do that. My mistake. Lets see what others say to confirm or deny this.

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Your edit is correct.

An account can only have one of PC or Steam.
Whichever is applied first.
If you try to apply a code for the other, it will not work.



OP could divorce from their Steam account by repurchasing everything for PC, but they cannot, afaik, keep any of their stuff as it'll be a new account.


There is also the option of abandoning the PC platform and buying ps4 versions of everything and just using that....
They could keep their character that way.
But that may or may not be applicable or even desirable by the OP.

Just confirming the other posters: If you want to rid yourself of steam, you will have to rebuy everything and create a new account that is PC only. You will lose any progress and have to start over.

PS4 is an option, but I wouldn't really suggest it at this point. With PS4 aging, you'd probably want to wait for PS5 if you were going to do that.

Just curious, what is so bad about Steam that you want to purge yourself of it?

If you are so determined to get rid of Steam that you want to start over, the cheapest option would be to get the base game for free from Twitch Prime, buy Stormblood for $20, and then pre-order Shadowbringers.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Just curious, what is so bad about Steam that you want to purge yourself of it?

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Personally it's the looming shadow of Square Enix forcing people with Steam keys to authenticate through the Steam servers first is what's causing me to flee from the platform.

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Originally Posted by LadyBaelcrest

Personally it's the looming shadow of Square Enix forcing people with Steam keys to authenticate through the Steam servers first is what's causing me to flee from the platform.

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I mean i wouldn't start over for that... sounds like a minor inconvenience, unless i'm missing something

I do know that i was recommended to -not- use steam when i started, so maybe it is that bad

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Originally Posted by Reimmi

I mean i wouldn't start over for that... sounds like a minor inconvenience, unless i'm missing something

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Basically the story of authentication problems come from ESO where the authentication servers on Steam will go down and not be repair for some time in which people on Steam cannot log onto said MMO because Steam can't keep their stuff from breaking. The worst of these "outages" I've heard that it was down for a whole month and I personally don't want to know what effect even more traffic on these fragile servers will do to them. At this point I can't flee from Steam and pray that Square Enix reverses their decision because I'm waaay too deep time and money wise to make another account to get away from Steam.

Is there any way to request for customer support to delete the Steam keys from your account? And then you could register a new PC copy?

Or yeah, PS4 is an option, and you can still use PC mouse/keyboard controls if you like.

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Originally Posted by LadyBaelcrest

Basically the story of authentication problems come from ESO where the authentication servers on Steam will go down and not be repair for some time in which people on Steam cannot log onto said MMO because Steam can't keep their stuff from breaking. The worst of these "outages" I've heard that it was down for a whole month and I personally don't want to know what effect even more traffic on these fragile servers will do to them. At this point I can't flee from Steam and pray that Square Enix reverses their decision because I'm waaay too deep time and money wise to make another account to get away from Steam.

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I'm not sure if this is still the case, but as somebody who migrated from ESO, I can confirm that I used to bypass the Steam related issues by simple making a shortcut to the launcher exe directly. It would ask me for password instead of automatically signing in, just like the standalone accounts, and I could log in even when Steam was down or experiencing issues.

Maybe this game will offer something similar? It's been speculated that they're doing this to appease Valve because Valve hates hosting games without DRM. However, many games with encrypted/protected executables do not actually need a constant internet connection to be played. For example, you can play Skyrim when Steam is in offline mode. If the updated client for Steam does only the bare minimum stuff to appease Valve, then who knows? Offline mode might be an option.

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Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld

I'm not sure if this is still the case, but as somebody who migrated from ESO, I can confirm that I used to bypass the Steam related issues by simple making a shortcut to the launcher exe directly. It would ask me for password instead of automatically signing in, just like the standalone accounts, and I could log in even when Steam was down or experiencing issues.

Maybe this game will offer something similar? It's been speculated that they're doing this to appease Valve because Valve hates hosting games without DRM. However, many games with encrypted/protected executables do not actually need a constant internet connection to be played. For example, you can ply Skyrim when Steam is in offline mode. If the updated client for Steam does only the bare minimum stuff to appease Valve, then who knows? Offline mode might be an option.

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So from what I've been told, the issue is that the game will require constant access to the steam authentication servers once this change goes through, as in your game sends info to the authentication server which then sends that info onto the game servers, and vice-versa. And because the info is being sent through the authentication server, it will be able to tell if you have logged into the game through Steam or not thus forcing you to start the game through steam. If the authentication servers go down like they were prone to do with ESO, there is literally no way for steam users to maintain a connection to the game servers, which is why there are so many people concerned.

Or so I've been told.

It seems to me that you may have actually transitioned from ESO before they made this change. Of course, I could be wrong.

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Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld

I'm not sure if this is still the case, but as somebody who migrated from ESO, I can confirm that I used to bypass the Steam related issues by simple making a shortcut to the launcher exe directly. It would ask me for password instead of automatically signing in, just like the standalone accounts, and I could log in even when Steam was down or experiencing issues.

Maybe this game will offer something similar? It's been speculated that they're doing this to appease Valve because Valve hates hosting games without DRM. However, many games with encrypted/protected executables do not actually need a constant internet connection to be played. For example, you can play Skyrim when Steam is in offline mode. If the updated client for Steam does only the bare minimum stuff to appease Valve, then who knows? Offline mode might be an option.

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Quote from the announcement:

After the change:
For Steam version service accounts, the FINAL FANTASY XIV client application will need to be started up from the Steam application's Play button. Any other method of direct startup will no longer be available.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...9d4dcbcf2c5f4d

My point is, the Play button is still there when Steam is in offline mode. This boils down to whether or not they use an authentication server. If all it's checking for is whether or not you launched it through Steam, you can do that just fine.

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Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld

My point is, the Play button is still there when Steam is in offline mode. This boils down to whether or not they use an authentication server. If all it's checking for is whether or not you launched it through Steam, you can do that just fine.

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I cannot give you a 100% definite answer. You are technically right, but considering it is an online game that's now being forced to go through the Steam play button the insinuation is there that they're going to use their authentication servers, but until the thing is actually implemented we can only speculate without hard evidence coming from up above.

They have also indefinitely delayed making this change for the time being due to a 'glitch' in this authentication system.

Sounds like OP hates steam in general. For whatever the reason: good luck with that

As for the posts on the authentication - none of us truly know for certain how it's going to work. It could be a situation where the game only needs to be started through steam and the authentication ends there. If the game constantly has to be authenticated, then there can be extra service interruptions. In that case, I agree, it would be horrible. If an influx of users (through steam) start having random disconnects, or lose connection to services when steam has maintenance every Tuesday evening, then let's just hope Square-Enix does the right thing.

i mean psn does the same thing, it's just done it from the beginning. ppl always wary when the psn goes down.

Always buy straight from the source.